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Bionic qHD vs Samsung Super AMOLED + Displays?

Bearly said:
Don't do it man. Spotty software support AND QC. Their GPS sucks on their phones.

For me to upgrade ill look for:

Dual core
4" QHD display (larger drains battery too much)
2 gb ram
Minimum 8 gb internal space
20 hours or better battery with moderate use
Gingerbread out of the box

With a marginal possibility of the Bionic if they crack the bootloader.

Im waiting for the MSM8960 chipset or Tegra 2 with LTE.
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We'll see. I'm one of the fortunate who has a Fascinate that's treated me well. Even the GPS works! Worked with 2.1 Works with 2.2. My problems are few and far between. Some of the issues are ridiculous, like I've said before, but boy is the screen good. The Fascinate has a lot to love. The LG revolution is still firmly on my radar though. And perhaps something will be different about the Bionic so it won't be as "pentiley" as the Atrix...
 
SirKronan said:
We'll see. I'm one of the fortunate who has a Fascinate that's treated me well. Even the GPS works! Worked with 2.1 Works with 2.2. My problems are few and far between. Some of the issues are ridiculous, like I've said before, but boy is the screen good. The Fascinate has a lot to love. The LG revolution is still firmly on my radar though. And perhaps something will be different about the Bionic so it won't be as "pentiley" as the Atrix...
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My Fascinate has 2.2 and battery life is barely 14 hours with light use. My brother's is stock, non-rooted and battery life is 25 hours every time, with moderate use.

Crazy, huh?

Something is wrong with my phone and it's not the battery; I've had the battery itself replaced with no other change.

It could be some app I'm running but I doubt it. I've checked.

If the Fascinate had really good GPS (mine takes forever to lock), 16 GB space, 1-1.5 GB ram (384 MB is NOTHING), the speaker phone was MUCh better (sounds tinny), NO pentile matrix, and the back plate was like the Captivate's (is it carbon fiber or just faux?), it'd be the perfect device.

I swear, it's like manufacturers intentionally put out phones that only get 70-80% of the things right, just to give themselves room for improvement to put out marginally better phones 1-2 times a year. That has to be the reason.
 
I'm jumping on the Bionic for sure. I played with it at CES and it was fast and the screen was great. And that was on far from final hardware (they made them by hand specifically for CES). While I'm interested in some of the other phones, unless something tips up before hand I will get the Bionic. Love my original Droid, but it's time to upgrade.
 
dmodert66 said:
I'm jumping on the Bionic for sure. I played with it at CES and it was fast and the screen was great. And that was on far from final hardware (they made them by hand specifically for CES). While I'm interested in some of the other phones, unless something tips up before hand I will get the Bionic. Love my original Droid, but it's time to upgrade.
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I'm upset at the lack of gyroscope though. No clue why they left it out.

If call quality and battery life are good and bootloader can be cracked, Bionic might be it for me.
 
Bearly said:
I'm upset at the lack of gyroscope though. No clue why they left it out.

If call quality and battery life are good and bootloader can be cracked, Bionic might be it for me.
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True about the gyroscope. Also the 512 MB ram leaves a bit to be desired, but I think I am going to go to a 1 year plan, so I can live with that for 1 year...
 
Bearly said:
My Fascinate has 2.2 and battery life is barely 14 hours with light use. My brother's is stock, non-rooted and battery life is 25 hours every time, with moderate use.

Crazy, huh?

Something is wrong with my phone and it's not the battery; I've had the battery itself replaced with no other change.

It could be some app I'm running but I doubt it. I've checked.

If the Fascinate had really good GPS (mine takes forever to lock), 16 GB space, 1-1.5 GB ram (384 MB is NOTHING), the speaker phone was MUCh better (sounds tinny), NO pentile matrix, and the back plate was like the Captivate's (is it carbon fiber or just faux?), it'd be the perfect device.

I swear, it's like manufacturers intentionally put out phones that only get 70-80% of the things right, just to give themselves room for improvement to put out marginally better phones 1-2 times a year. That has to be the reason.
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Sorry that you had issues with Fascinate. I didn't have it, but have six friends with it. All of them are happy with battery life, call qualty and yes GPS too. They did nothing but official OTA update without rooting. Yes, it's a bit laggy at times but not terrible for most people.

For me ruling out new Samsung phones entirely just because they had spotty GPS and slow update last year is silly. Most of that issue is resolved through official updates so far and even hardware wise GPS seems to be fixed in Nexus S, Galaxy S 4G. I bet that upcoming SGS2 will be one serious phone to beat when it comes in the summer. My only gripe with it is that it's unlikely to have LTE in CDMA version while GSM version will have HSPA+.
 
dmodert66 said:
True about the gyroscope. Also the 512 MB ram leaves a bit to be desired, but I think I am going to go to a 1 year plan, so I can live with that for 1 year...
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No gyroscope? How will it do orientation and such? Will it still have a compass?
 
I had a Fascinate and got so fed up waiting for the official 2.2 I called and complained and they sent me a Droid X, which I love. It holds a better signal than my Fascinate...and because I work in a really weak area this little bit extra it has over the Fascinate makes a difference for me.

I tried installing leak after leak, ROM after ROM of 2.2 on the Fascinate because I, too LOVED the hardware/form factor. But as soon as I started installing anything with 2.2 in the name my battery life went in the toilet. Then I couldn't even connect my phone to my new bluetooth stereo to stream content. It was like two steps forward, one step back with everything that leaked. I know that's the risk you take with leaks...so let's forget about them altogether. It is flat-out unacceptable that it is mid/late March and the Fascinate STILL does not have froyo.

I'm also a user than can't have a rooted phone...so having to root to play with all these ROMs was causing issues as well...

I'm very happy with the Droid X and as such will definitely be looking at the Bionic. I don't think I can ever by another Samsung after this debacle (I had "somewhat" functioning GPS...it functioned just fine when I didn't need it...but when I really needed it it could never obtain lock fast enough). The only Samsung phone I would remotely consider would be a Nexus S on Verizon, which is rumored to be happening. But it needs to have some improvements made to the hardware for me. AND..I say this assuming updates come straight from Google and bypass Samsung and Verizon. I'm ready for a phone without all the damn carrier bloat!!!!
 
I think gyroscope is different one than accelerometer. I read somewhere gyroscope is mainly for gaming. Pretty much all smartphones have accelerometer for orientation, but only handful of them have gyroscope I believe.
 
Seriously....I love my Fascinate, sorry to the nay sayers! Everything is awesome, except for the GPS! It's been better since the last update, but hello how does it take 6 months for a fix? Samsung u suck as far as updates go, and hello...where is 2.2 already? Ok the screen, I love it! Samsung's Super Amoled screen IMO is the best available at this time.
However......
I have to say that Motorola's QHD screen is truly beautiful, very crisp, whites pop, and clarity is fantastic. Blacks, while not as rich as a super Amoled, are still very good! The screen on the Atrix has impressed me very much, as does the battery! So I for one can't wait for the Bionic.

As for Sammy, I will not be buying any Samsung phones in the near future, they have lost my confidence in being able to handle updates and keeping its customers up to date.

Yessss, my next phone will deff be a Motorola Bionic
 
jinwons said:
I think gyroscope is different one than accelerometer. I read somewhere gyroscope is mainly for gaming. Pretty much all smartphones have accelerometer for orientation, but only handful of them have gyroscope I believe.
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Gyroscope functions for lateral movements. Hold your phone still and just turn your body. A gyroscope will sense that and an accelerometer won't.
 
You could say that it benefits games or functions that require a shaking movement, since accelerometer is more for vertical rotation about a horizontal axis parallel to the ground... but also rotating with the gps on---the compass works like a real compass or at least is close.
 
Bearly said:
You could say that it benefits games or functions that require a shaking movement, since accelerometer is more for vertical rotation about a horizontal axis parallel to the ground... but also rotating with the gps on---the compass works like a real compass or at least is close.
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So what phones on VZ do have the gyroscope?
 
jinwons said:
I believe your Fascinate (Galaxy S) is one of them.
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Yes. You can tell by loading navigation and rotating your body. You will notice the orientation on the map change to show the arrow pointing in the direction you are (N,S,E,W)
 
Bearly said:
Yes. You can tell by loading navigation and rotating your body. You will notice the orientation on the map change to show the arrow pointing in the direction you are (N,S,E,W)
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Hmm... I noticed that the compass works pretty good on the Fascinate. Should we assume the Stealth/Charge is getting a gyroscope too then?
 
SirKronan said:
Hmm... I noticed that the compass works pretty good on the Fascinate. Should we assume the Stealth/Charge is getting a gyroscope too then?
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Great question but im not sure. I guess until Google mandates such components for Android then we can't expect mfgrs to care; less cost to them means higher margins and most people wont notice the absence of a gyroscope. But it is useful for sure.
 
Bearly said:
Great question but im not sure. I guess until Google mandates such components for Android then we can't expect mfgrs to care; less cost to them means higher margins and most people wont notice the absence of a gyroscope. But it is useful for sure.
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Well, I wouldn't be surprised to find it absent in the Stealth simply because of the small memory. It wouldn't make much sense to add a great gaming feature only to leave scarcely enough room for some of today's larger and more graphic intensive games. Besides, they've gotta fit that big LTE radio chip in there, after all.

The memory won't be as big of an issue if they ship it with a really really fast SD card. But who does that these days? I was impressed as heck to find a class 4 in the Thunderbolt!!
 
I think Stealth will have gyroscope as well because it's basically SAMOLED+/LTE version of Galaxy S. I don't think it has anything to do with small internal ROM memory.

BWT, I found a youtubue video that compares screen quality, web browsing of Atrix, SGS2, iPhone4 done by someone in Korea. Here, it looks clear that SAMOLED+ beats the other two in terms of color, contrast. The atrix screen looks way too dull in color, contrast. The text clarity is hard to tell on video, but SAMOLED+ looks just as good as the other two if not better. It seems definitely improved over SAMOLED in clarity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmjY0s9BIws
 
Super AMOLED Plus gets my vote, I don't think I could go back to using a S-LCD screen now.

Bearly said:
YES. Samsung has a horrible track record with updates.

And they ship really buggy hardware (broken GPS).

No more Samsung.
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Yes I remember people always told me Samsung would never update the Galaxy S past 2.1 and here I am on 2.3.3.

Yes the GPS is dodgy; it was a hardware/design (Antenna) issue which apparently has been addressed.
 
Shocky said:
Super AMOLED Plus gets my vote, I don't think I could go back to using a S-LCD screen now.



Yes I remember people always told me Samsung would never update the Galaxy S past 2.1 and here I am on 2.3.3.

Yes the GPS is dodgy; it was a hardware/design (Antenna) issue which apparently has been addressed.
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Which Galaxy S do you have? Which carrier?
 
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