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Which external batteries do you recommend looking at? Not all are the same and weight is of concern. Thanks in advance.
Szadzik
Extreme Android User
I use Sanyo and have a 5000mAh one that has 2 usb ports can be charged from ac or usb and is not big.
jikhead
Android Expert
I posted up some more options on external packs over in the Vigor forum. Click over to that post here.
http://androidforums.com/htc-vigor/421977-htc-vigor-battery-2.html#post3406150
http://androidforums.com/htc-vigor/421977-htc-vigor-battery-2.html#post3406150
Does anyone else consider the lack of removable battery to be a security/privacy risk? If you just turn a phone "off" without removing the battery, it is sometimes possible for carriers/governments to track your location.
Definitely a bit paranoid, I don't actually ever remove my battery for this reason, but I like to know I can.
If you can cut off the battery to effectively do a battery pull, does that mean you can leave it in this state to render your phone invisible to the towers?
Definitely a bit paranoid, I don't actually ever remove my battery for this reason, but I like to know I can.
If you can cut off the battery to effectively do a battery pull, does that mean you can leave it in this state to render your phone invisible to the towers?
TheMortallyWounded
Android Enthusiast
This does not of course take into account cases where one may not have access to a charger for several days on end, where there may be low signal, where GPS comes in really handy. Like, camping.
We don't all live in the big city. I for one love living far away from the iSheep as possible without breaking my gas bank. So I may need to keep a spare battery in my wallet, or slap in my extended-run battery.
The need for a replaceable battery is not a failure in design. It's in achievement in simplicity. The RAZR not having a removable battery is a deal-breaker. I'm going Bionic come December now.
Martimus
One bite at a time...
So long as the phone is powered off or in airplane mode, it does not actively send out a signal. So long as it is in this inaccessible state, it is not possible for a carrier/government to track it. The moment the phones radios are enabled for use, however, the carrier (and most likely the government) can calculate your approximate location.
So carrying a spare battery is an option? What about carrying an external battery pack that's about the size of a small feature phone (1.5" wide by 3.5" long)? I carry a portable battery pack with my work laptop that's has a 5600mAh.battery. That's approximately 3x the capacity of the stock battery in the RAZR (or the GNex). To charge I would simply connect a short USB cable between the battery pack and the charging port of the phone. It can then go back into my pocket where the battery pack will re-charge the phone without intervention from me.
What I like about this last option is when I travel, My employer's IT policy does not allow me to plug in any smart device. So, even with the card removed I can't plug in to my laptop for a recharge. But I can plug in a dumb battery brick all day long...
Now my next question: When running on external power, does the phone battery get bypassed? Or does it go through mini discharge/recharge cycles like the type that kill laptop batteries when plugged in forever?
Now my next question: When running on external power, does the phone battery get bypassed? Or does it go through mini discharge/recharge cycles like the type that kill laptop batteries when plugged in forever?
Martimus
One bite at a time...
When the external battery pack is connected, I'm guessing that the phone see's it as an external power source just like that of a standard wall charger (5Vdc, 500mA to 1A). From a power utilization standpoint it should therefore operate the same as it would if the phone were instead connected to a standard wall charger.
Here's a couple of links on how Big Brother is tracking us.
I don't want to be tracked.
FBI's 'Stingray' Cellphone Tracker Stirs a Fight Over Search Warrants, Fourth Amendment - WSJ.com
Mobile phone tracking - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Android OS is tracking our location, too.
Here's an app that lets you see what Android is logging.
https://market.android.com/details?id=ch.rrelmy.android.locationcachemap&hl=en
Szadzik
Extreme Android User
If you read each article you will understand that there is always a need for some data to be used, it can be:
SIM - phone cannot be in flight mode.
DATA - Phone needs to have data connectivity
Hybrid: Both of the above
Software - client software needs to be installed
All of the above methods, assume that your phone is communicating with the network and that means that it HAS TO BE ON for the tracking to be enabled.
The last method ids by adding hardware to the phone itself, but I am not sure how that could be achieved with a sealed phone like the Razr.
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TxGoat
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I have yet to understand why people think that 4G drains power so much more than 3G. The only time I notice 4G draining power is when I'm downloading a large file. I actually keep 4G turned off for about 70% of the time and I haven't noticed a difference in battery consumption when I'm on CDMA (Auto). My Thunderbolt's battery is pretty putrid on 3G or 4G. On 4G doing nothing but downloading, yeah it turns into a battery hog.
I start to wonder if people that claim the iPhone's battery life is better because they don't have to "deal with 4G" are just trying to fool themselves because they hate Apple products to the core (fruit pun unintentional, processor pun intentional).
Battery life is probably going to be an issue for a majority of Droid devices so having a fixed battery will be an interesting experiment on Motorola's part.
I start to wonder if people that claim the iPhone's battery life is better because they don't have to "deal with 4G" are just trying to fool themselves because they hate Apple products to the core (fruit pun unintentional, processor pun intentional).
Battery life is probably going to be an issue for a majority of Droid devices so having a fixed battery will be an interesting experiment on Motorola's part.
Because the 4g phones are worse on battery than 3g. i get much better battery life on 3g vs on 4g doing the same things.
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TxGoat
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It must be user specific then because I don't notice any difference in battery life when I use CDMA + LTE vs CDMA only. The only time I can see 4G posing a big enough problem to noticeably diminish battery life is if your phone is constantly looking for a 4G connection, which that used to always be the case on AT&T's network when phones were constantly looking for a 3G signal.
I still think it's people trying to make excuses for Android having worse battery performance than an iPhone. I guess when iPhone finally decides they want to go 4G, then we'll see for sure. I'm actually hoping that the iPhone's battery life remains the same if anything to get Android to step up their game. Although by then I'm sure the android apologists will say, "Well the iPhone uses an inferior screen..."
I enjoy my Android phone greatly, but I'm not going to make up excuses for its poor performance.
What is iPhone battery life supposed to be? Longer than 1 day?
Can't really brag about it now with the 4S going into a second beta for the battery fix...
Iphone 4 easily made it a day. 4s had really awful battery i was disappointed when i used one.
You act like android is intentionally holding battery life back. If they could get better battery life they would. will be interesting to see what apple does especially if the rumors of ios6 being a complete redesign are true and its no longer a glorified app launcher.
AndroidGreg
Member
I prefer external battery packs, I got this beast, had a friend wire a charge line into my truck (don't try this at home hes a professional automotive tech and electrician) so I take it with me camping, One I park the truck I throw it in my backpack, run a 5 foot USB cord to it and have instantly 8 days of battery. Its about the size of 3 bionics stacked atop each other maybe 2 not sure totally.
The beast
http://www.amazon.com/i-Sound-Portable-Power-iPhone-Blackberry/dp/B00439G3WS
The beast
http://www.amazon.com/i-Sound-Portable-Power-iPhone-Blackberry/dp/B00439G3WS
I'm still kind of torn about this or the Nexus, with the whole LTE thing, since that is such a drain on the battery, will you be able to turn off LTE if you don't want to use it. I'm at college most of the time and I would be using the wi-fi instead of using data, but when I'm away from school, I wouldn't really care as long as the speeds are pretty quick.
turbomentor
Well-Known Member
I went on a 7-day mountain biking excursion through the Rockies last year. Had a solar charger strapped to my CamelBak every day...charged up my Garmin GPS every night.
The new Solio Bolt would be pretty handy to have in an area where there may not be any power. Charge it up all day and it has a standard USB dock for plugging in any device with a standard USB cable. Simple and elegant.
The new Solio Bolt would be pretty handy to have in an area where there may not be any power. Charge it up all day and it has a standard USB dock for plugging in any device with a standard USB cable. Simple and elegant.