California Bill 185, should it pass?

[JCampbell]

Exactly how does it hurt everyone if universities try to "help" minorities? There are PLENTY of unqualified students of all races in colleges. I don't know if you've studied at a university yet but you quickly realize how many stupid people there are and truly make you wonder how they could be there in the first place.

How can someone being rejected from Berkeley and forced to go to UCSD result in issues in the workforce? What are these issues or are you not sure of what the issues are?

I truly don't see the point in trying to go out of the way to "help" minorities. If they can meet the same criteria as I can, then let them attend the university! But when I'm working on my Air Force Academy and Virginia Tech applications and race is a REQUIRED field (no little "prefer not to respond" box like they do for gender), red flags go up. I don't want to get left out of a college because of my race. Conversely, I don't want to be accepted into a college solely based off of race.

As far as affecting an individual in the workforce, if I was turned down from Berkeley and forced to attend UCSD, that could reduce my chances of getting a very competitive job at say, Boeing. Even if I had done a great job at UCSD, graduated near the top of my class, and worked my butt off, someone who graduated from Berkeley with the same GPA and same degree would probably beat me out for the job. Did they work harder than me in college? Maybe, maybe not. All I'm saying is that if I didn't get into Berkeley simply because the college had to meet a quota, that could have long term affects and isn't fair to any of those involved. +

On a side note, every time I typed "Berkeley" I kept thinking of Berklee College of Music in Boston...

 

[lordofthereef]

We already have something like this and most people could care less. It's called full-rides/acceptance based on your athletic prowess. Nothing academic in how fast you run, how well you play football, etc. yet plenty of people are let into schools and given full rides based solely on this all over the US (and I would bet elsewhere although I cannot say for certain).