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Calling All Grammar Nazi's

I guess I should be happy I did not take linguistics in college, then...

Though I really did want to.

I was dreading the course and only had to take it because the college did not accept the three years of Sign language I took in high school as a legitimate foreign language. Of course they started to accept it 2 semesters after I had to take linguistics for my foreign language credits...
oddly enough, I absolutely loved the course:)

Funny how things work out. The two courses I most dreaded and feared were Logic and Linguistics and they both turned out to be my favorite courses and I did very well in them! I guess there is something to be said for the wisdom of old sayings ... you never know what you are capable of or what you might really enjoy until you try!:)
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I do recall learning grammar in school. My memories are mostly fuzzy. I recall learning that a noun is a person, place or thing. I recall learning about verbs, adjectives, adverbs and other parts of speech. I think that was in elementary school.

In high school, I recall learning about grammatical errors to avoid like dangling modifiers or unparallel structures. I also recall learning about some really obscure stuff like the subjective mood.

French class was where I felt I really learned about grammar. As this course teaches the language from scratch to people who have never spoken it, it was taught by teaching grammar rules. In this course, I began to equate these grammar rules I learned in French class to English. There are some differences between French grammar and English grammar, but most of the rules have equivalents in both languages. I feel I learned more about English grammar in French class than in my English classes.
 
Why change "weigh" to "way"? There is neither an "e" nor an "i" in "way". :confused:

Sound. They sound the same.

It was just a gag - comedy. There's no solution from there.

I think that it's possible that in the rush to be perfect, a lot of simple human comedy is lost.

And that's what makes people upset with grammarians or anyone else being a perfectionist.

I don't think that the explanation helps at all but there it is, for what it's worth.
 
Sound. They sound the same.

It was just a gag - comedy. There's no solution from there.

I think that it's possible that in the rush to be perfect, a lot of simple human comedy is lost.

And that's what makes people upset with grammarians or anyone else being a perfectionist.

I don't think that the explanation helps at all but there it is, for what it's worth.

I think it would have been funnier if you had used 'whey'.
 
Why change "weigh" to "way"? There is neither an "e" nor an "i" in "way". :confused:

Oh look! "Neither" doesn't follow the rule "I before e, except after c" and it doesn't sound like "weigh" either.

Oh look! "Either" doesn't follow the the rule...

Aaaaaargh!! 1!!
 
i before e,
Except after c,
Or when sounded as "a,"
As in neighbour and weigh,
Or when floundered as "i,"
For either or neither,
That you can't pronounce as "e,"
When why is it floundered?

That seems simple enough.

Let's talk about the beavers.

Do they have a monarch?

Caesar Beaver?
 
Or when floundered as "i,"
For either or neither,
That you can't pronounce as "e,"
When why is it floundered?


either and neither can be pronounced with an "e," hence that song... (but also stated in the OED)

And of course you have the word eik, pronounced "eek" meaning, well:

 
either and neither can be pronounced with an "e," hence that song... (but also stated in the OED)

Yeah. I am fully aware of that.

My addition simply fulfilled the ongoing requirement for the pretentiousness inherent in that poem long before I mucked with it by artificially constraining pronunciation in an unreal manner.

Kind of surprised you didn't zero in on the pseudo-intellectual use of "floundered" but ok.

I was just trouting trotting out something fishy when I said floundered because the spelling problems for "i" and "e" have entered rough waters.

Maybe it would help if we all started using the French pronunciations for "i" and "e."

And then apply the new rules in Dutch.
 
Yeah. I am fully aware of that.

I know.


Kind of surprised you didn't zero in on the pseudo-intellectual use of "floundered" but ok.

Well actually I thought you might have unearthed the complete poem and didn't feel like criticizing the poetic skills of a long-dead anonymous poet.

I was just trouting trotting out something fishy when I said floundered because the spelling problems for "i" and "e" have entered rough waters.
Nice. I like the cryptic use of an implicit metaphor. I didn't get it, but I like it now you explained.


Maybe it would help if we all started using the French pronunciations for "i" and "e."

Maybe I should mention that eik and a few other "ee" words in English are of Scottish origin and not Old English or French/Greek. Was I cheating?

I didn't include Eid, the Muslim celebration following Ramadan, because it has Arabic origin and was only included in the OED in 1993 - a long time after that spelling poem was created.


And then apply the new rules in Dutch.

LOL
 
Look, I have to go on record and say that I'm not only impressed that there's a word for sheep sweat but that you actually know what it is.

Pretty sure that means that you get to use any words you want, you've earned it. :) :D
 
Look, I have to go on record and say that I'm not only impressed that there's a word for sheep sweat but that you actually know what it is.

Pretty sure that means that you get to use any words you want, you've earned it. :) :D

Nice! No "NSFW" tags for you! ;)
 
The entire rhyme is

i before e,
Except after c,
Or when sounded as "a,"
As in neighbour and weigh.

According to Mr Fry, there's more exceptions to the rule that words that stick to it. Science, eh?

Sentence diagramming is highly effective although it's not easy.

Diagramming Sentences

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:mindexplodes:

Also, I recently watched this (sorry if this has been shown before) and I don't know if I should stop correcting bad grammar now

Stephen Fry Kinetic Typography - Language - YouTube
 
either and neither can be pronounced with an "e," hence that song... (but also stated in the OED)

I pronounce "either" and "neither" like "EYE". Occasionally I pronounce them like "EE".
 
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