So, basically all Christians do, is do the exact same thing Muslims do when they want Shariah law to be passed as the law of the land... gotcha.
First, can you find me a statement from a prominatne Christian organization similar to this:
The introduction of the Islamic Shari`ah as the basis controlling the affairs of state and society.
Ikhwanweb :: The Muslim Brotherhood Official English Website
They aren't monsters, you just know what they are going to do because of a stereotype based in ignorance and fear?
No, I'm going off of their own statements.
First off, the clerics have FORBIDDEN Female Circumcision.
The Grand Mufti of Egypt prohibited it, and leading Islamic scholars issued a Fatwa regarding the process
Ok, you do realize the Grand Mufti is appointed by the Government of Egypt and not associated with the Muslim Brotherhood? So, not surprising his statements jive with the Government. The MB recently has called for a new way of selecting the Mufti. Muslim doesn't = Muslim brotherhood.
And yes, the government as banned it, and many Islamic clerics claim its not an Islamic but regional tradition.
And "Clerics (MB Types)"... hello?
I mean Clerics aligned with the Muslim brotherhood, as opposed to guys like the Mufti who are aligned more with the government.
Non-Muslims should pay the tax because military service is only compulsory for Muslims, which isn't evil, or targeting non-Muslims. It's a valid political desire for a valid existing reason.
Read a little further...
He went on to say, "we do not mind having Christians members in the People's Assembly...the top officials, especially in the army, should be Muslims since we are a Muslim country...This is necessary because when a Christian country attacks the Muslim country and the army has Christian elements, they can facilitate our defeat by the enemy.
That doesn't seem like its making Christians second class citizens? That's religious tolerance? Is that anything resembling secular democracy?
Should we make women pay a protection tax in the US because only males have to enlist in the selective service?
And he wasn't talking only about military service, but top government positions. Their view is that Christians, because of their religion, should be barred from holding top positions in the government... but you don't see any religious discrimination here?
What I find most reprehensible is that you KNEW why they wanted that tax imposed, but decided to leave it out simply because you wanted to paint them in a bad light. Making the MB look bad was more important to you than the truth. But no... you aren't racist
Uhh... no, I was trying to keep the quote short, if I wanted to hide it, I wouldn't have given the source.
I guess you consider it "free and fair" when the ruling party gets to determine who can run for office... Most people around the world don't consider that Free and Fair.
The process of getting on the Iran presidential ballot is defined in its constitution. Just like the US constitution has rules for who can run. So, it fits the definition of a constitutional democracy. Its just their constitution puts religious figures at the top, which makes it a religious democracy as well.
Or an abortion doctor is gunned down in his church... or... oh well you get the idea.
Correct, but how many abortion Dr. murders have there been compared with suicide bombings?
And secondly, MB's beliefs AREN'T in support of Suicide bombers. There have only been 5 suicide bombings since we've been keeping records... and we know the responsible party in 3, and the Muslim Brotherhood was not involved in ANY of them. Shocking... I know.
WTF are you talking about? Since who has been keeping records?
Secondly, how can you say MB arnen't in support of suicide bombers when you have Muslim Brotherhood leader Youssef Qaradawi claiming he has supported them for 20 years!
I have [supported] this for more than 20 years. I am not the only one to support this. More than 300 Muslim scholars have supported it. I do not automatically permit martyrdom operations. I permit them under specific constraints, when necessary – like in the case of our Palestinian brothers, who are forced to defend themselves by turning themselves into bombs.
Lol... seriously? Is that your serious understanding of Egypt? (There are over 20 political parties in Egypt, of which the Muslim Brotherhood isn't one)
Go look up what organization holds the most seats in Egyptian Parliament behind the NDP
People's Assembly of Egypt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I'll give you a hint, their not on your list... should I insult your understanding of Egyptian government and politics now?
The reason every commentator familiar with the situation believes the MB will come out with more influence, is because it is currently TOLERATED, but BANNED. They are not technically allowed to exist legally, but are tolerated. When that is lifted, of course they will have more influence. They aren't allowed to be a political party, but when this is over, it is likely they will be... which will give them more influence.
Yes, but as a "tolerated but banned" organization, they currently hold more seats in the PA than any other organization (by nearly a factor of 5) outside of Mubarak's NDP party. I think its safe to say, they are the most organized, and are in place to gain the most from this situation.
MB will respect the peace treaty with Israel
You quoted statements saying they will not respect the treaty... your quoting from a story that was Essam El-Erian trying to walk back statements saying they would.
Prominent Muslim Brotherhood (MB) member Essam El-Erian denied telling the London-based Al-Hayat newspaper that the group would recognize the state of Israel and cooperate with it once the MB reaches power..
Ikhwanweb :: The Muslim Brotherhood Official English Website
And that is the Muslim Brotherhood's own English Language website.
From an anti- MB hate group? Really? That's your source? That's like citing the KKK for news on the wrongs of blacks or jews in this country.
According to a MEMRI report, Qaradawi said on Al-Hiwar TV:
Yes, per your article, these are some of those rights that they oppose:
Trying children as adults.
Uhh... yes, the MB opposes laws that would make it illegal to try children as adults.
Government restrictions on corporal punishment.
Yes, they oppose government restrictions on corporal punishment.
Katatny says that the Brotherhood is not in favor of female circumcision, but opposes banning it because it is a tradition that should remain an option for medical reasons and "beautification" purposes.
Yes, the MB thinks people should be free to mutilate their daughters genitals, because it's "tradition." Seriously...
to hell with that attitude. mutilating a child, or support of such things frankly, makes me sick.
Really, how did I selectively quote any of this?
