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Chase Bank wants EVERYTHING!!!

Smartphones, no matter which platform, are inherently not about privacy with the balance between security and convenience more often than not closer to convenience. Plus they're all networked together on the Internet, an entity that consists of multiple technologies that have been pushed way beyond their original, intended limits.

I'm not quite sure what you're asking of anybody reading the Forums here to do. No one is forcing you to use an Android phone. No one is even coercing you into using any particular app or service.
 
I am raising awareness. at the least. I am hoping more people question these global comapnies that continue to breach privacy laws that we circumvent by "accepting" some usage terms. You know why those usgae terms are there? Its because they are making it legal. The problem is that the large number of users have forgotten why there was a privacy law to begin with, and why its important to uphold it. Many users have given up these laws for the sake of convenience, and its been implemented in a trickle down manner where we don't really feel it.

This IS a forum, and if you cannot see something wrong with this behavior from comapnies, I guess this is not the thread for you. But the fact that you responded either tells me you do feel like youre being dragged along, and you maybe wondering how this might effect me. It doesn't now, and it might not be directly you. But it surely can and will be someone now, or your loved one a generation from now.

Its not a secret that governements already use this type of data to "setup" people for some purpose...why pass that ability along to corporations and companies?
 
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But the fact that you responded either tells me you do feel like youre being dragged along, and you maybe wondering how this might effect me. It doesn't now, and it might not be directly you.
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Actually I only gave my opinion on something that's more fundamentally broken than app permissions. All web browsers and phone apps rely on a fractured, insecure base of SSL certificates. If I was aware at that time your original query about the Chase app was just a ruse I probably would have just ignored this thread. It's not that I don't think app permissions are a problem, it's just that I try not to have a reactionary, alarmist approach to them.
 
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BillArf....
I don't understand your point, or should I say the basis of your instruction.
Do you have anything to add to this, or are you just here to guess peoples intentions, and talk smack about peoples reasons for posting threads? And since when are you the author on who uses what app?

Are you the "pro banker" and pro information hog that wants to track all user data just in case? What is it that you want? You don't want me stating facts? You don't like the idea of privacy?


PalmTree, Any app can require a per use permission, that way YOU feed what content you want the app to have access to...Not the other way around. The app shouldn't dictate how your phone works, and It shouldn't be you not having the control, simple as that!

These are very basic guidelines personal information and privacy SHOULD be working under, and this CHASE app, much like a HACK app, is telling you...Oh, ya, I need all your contacts when I want them, and your pix, your wifi, you location, your ID, and the camera of course, and YOU HAVE NO SAY I CHASE USES ALL THIS.

But on the iOS, its just Camera and Location. With the option of turning Location off. The app will likely ask as it needs it, but at that point it also maybe asking you for the permission, and then having the unlimited access to what you allowed.

Syzmic, that maybe the best way to go about these apps that require BS access.
Crash, yes a app is quicker, but I rather use the web and do what I need vs supporting an app that supports THEIVING of infor as CHASE wants to be known as.
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Another rant. My, my.
 
Actually, you can go through all the apps on the phone and tweak the permissions before even sticking a SIM card in.

Then when you add a new app, it will show the permissions and you can change or not change them as you see fit.
My Moto X Pure came with MM installed.

We do care - but I want NoScript and Tab permissions on the phone as well as Pale Moon (will work in FX.)
You can also use Ghostery Browser, or Dolphin Zero. Wouldn't mind an adblocker that would block audio the minute you opened the site in a browser.

If you happen to want all the conveniences and goodies the phone can provide, you are going to have to give on some things, go without, or do your homework and go around.
 
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It can't be all that bad,When I changed phones from G2 to G4.The Wells Fargo bank app wouldn't let me login.
So I called Wells Fargo and they asked me a bunch of questions only I would know.Then they activated my Wells Fargo bank app.What a pain.
 
Phil Indeblanc said:
I am raising awareness. at the least. I am hoping more people question these global comapnies that continue to breach privacy laws that we circumvent by "accepting" some usage terms.
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That's all very well, but I suggest that you check how long some contributors to this topic have been around AF, and therefore using Android, before you dismiss their opinions. You're not addressing a bunch of novice users here.

This IS a forum, and if you cannot see something wrong with this behavior from comapnies, I guess this is not the thread for you.
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That's the third such similar remark from you in this thread, so I think some clarification is required. Yes, it's a DISCUSSSION forum. That means discussion, exchanges of opinion and civil debate is encouraged. See para 1 of the Site Rules. So long as a post conforms to those it's allowed.... period.

Your issue is with the Chase Bank app, and as a customer you have the choice of either requesting they change it, not using it, or voting with your feet by moving your account elsewhere. However, as already illustrated in this thread, not all banking apps are created equally. Fwiw, I'm currently trying to persuade my own bank's devs to use more permissions so that the app can use Google 2-Factor Authentication to enable use on more than one device. Right now it's strictly "one device per account", which is a right royal pain in the posterior for many of us who use multiple devices.
 
I guess you're right. I'm new here, still getting the hang of things of what's fully acceptable in the Android world, vs what might be something that warrents my response level. this stuff to me is high red flag. While its totally clear that maybe a couple people are wondering "why in the world are they taking all this access vs the couple needed on usage". Well. Pandora is no better. Slacker is great, same with Yelp. Just received my new cell, so will be loading.

Maybe we can have a App list with what the access demand is and we can rate the apps on privacy demands/requirements. Maybe not. I would be willing to start making a log if that would be welcome/?
 
I do notice from time to time .. that apps sometimes ask for too much permission.

I then evaluate the risk vs value.. per each app.
who is it from? how many downloads?
how much I trust said developer / app?
how much I need this app?

sometimes it falls short.. and I don't install it.
 
@Crash ~ "but a weii designed app is quicker and easier with no security problems."

I think I see the problem. It's not "a weii designed app." :p
 
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