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degrading my firmwire.

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imprez me

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so i upgraded from 2.3.3 to 2.3.5. because kies and my carrier is so slow on update. just incase i have to send my phone back for warrenty. i was wondering where can i find the original firmwire for my phone?

im using Bell in Canada if that helps.
and resetting this counter thing, how does it actually work and why some people concern on resetting it?
 
if u flash a firmware using anythign else besides kies, ur warranty is void
it doens't matter if u reset the counter or flash back to original, they know wut u have done with ur phone
 
i read online on this forum that on the s2 you can flash original firmware on it and reset the counters because you dont have to root it to upgrade in the first place.. are you sure?
 
imprez me said:
i read online on this forum that on the s2 you can flash original firmware on it and reset the counters because you dont have to root it to upgrade in the first place.. are you sure?
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yes u can do everything this forum tells u, but that doesn't mean samsung technicians don't know wut's going on
 
Twinn said:
If you want to upgrade your ORIGINAL firmware u can do it WITHOUT voiding your warranty using Odin and reseting your flash counter. You DON`T have to root your phone to do that.

here you have original firmware from Samsung:
Login - www.SamFirmware.com
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this is spot on :) dont worry, go ahead and keep flashing newer firmware, u can always get it back to stock and reset flash counter (via a device called a usb jig) and ur warranty is fine.. u'll be waiting forever if u wait for kies updates :D
 
To clear up any confusion:

Twinn said:
If you want to upgrade your ORIGINAL firmware u can do it WITHOUT voiding your warranty using Odin and reseting your flash counter.
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Odin is not officially supported by Samsung, that's why the flash counter is incremented in the first place. Using unsupported update methods will void the warranty, and reinstalling the stock firmware and resetting the counter doesn't change that. It may look stock but to claim under the warranty would, strictly speaking, be fraudulent.
 
slug quite rightly points out the official/legal perspective, that's his job, and as moderator would be putting himself and the forum in jeopardy if he endorsed doing this.

however, the reality is surely that if you sent a phone in and the samsung techs could detect you'd been up to unofficial monkey business, they almost certainly would just send your phone back saying warranty was void, not go about legal proceedings to try to proove you intentionally/fraudulently tried to claim.

what we really need to know is

1. has anybody reset their counter and successfully claimed on their warranty

2. has anyone had a warranty claim refused despite reinstalling official firmware and resetting the counter?????
 
Are you 100% sure that they would find it out in official samsung service? Even after uploading stock firmware and reseting flash counter?
 
thanks guys for your replies. so i guess once you flash whatever firmware with odin, it is automatically void. but i guess it is a matter of luck if you send it back with stock firmware and counter reset.

has anyone tried this and got their warrenty? that is something i really want to know.
 
Twinn said:
Are you 100% sure that they would find it out in official samsung service? Even after uploading stock firmware and reseting flash counter?
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yes samsung will know wut u did
they made the phone u r NOT going to outsmart them
 
I suspect this too, but my suspicions are only theoretical.
How do you know this for certain tho?

Do you know anyone (or perhaps yourself) who has sent a jigged handset back to samsung under warranty only to be declined?
 
hawker said:
I suspect this too, but my suspicions are only theoretical.
How do you know this for certain tho?

Do you know anyone (or perhaps yourself) who has sent a jigged handset back to samsung under warranty only to be declined?
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it's not hard to figure out when every faulty handset returned has stock firmware with nothing on it. and trust me they know. how did u think microsoft stayed in business with all the pirating going on?
 
jaliy said:
it's not hard to figure out when every faulty handset returned has stock firmware with nothing on it
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Anyone who doesn't factory-reset their handsets if possible before returning them for service obviously doesn't care about security. Not to mention that it's usually the first thing tried to sort a problem.

Once again I find myself having to request that you stop hijacking other members' support topics to argue your own personal agenda. It's impolite and confusing.
 
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