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Don't buy the SD810 devices.

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Disregard the post the below as it seems FUD is spreading around the web with the 810 being a overheating beast SOC. All of it coming from one source and then being manipulated to and by other medias.


The SOC should be great and serve its purpose but I'll till wait for the 820 end of 2015.

Thank you all for commenting and spreading your knowledge.













Don't get a SD810 here's why.

Qualcomm is not using its normal magic when making this up coming chip, not to say the chip is bad but the over heating issues make sense seeing how its just tweaked architecture from arm vs what they normally do and make a chip that is different from everyone's arm architecture. Q1 and 2 I believe will be filled with nothing but 810 flagships phones and tablets, and with probably the right under clocking and under volting the SOC could be useful and harness some of the potential of the 64 bit architecture and the octacore benefits. But clocked at 2.8ghz with the gpu probably following close to ~600 mhz i can see where the overheating is happening. With out actually going into the kernel I don't know the overhead write speed and read the cache load and those fun things. But the armv8 architecture is a lot more complex then v7 and I'm sure it's taking a lot longer for Qualcomm to fully optimize the chip with out jumping into the 64bit with out road bumps.

Take it as it is the lg G flex 2 will sport one reviews will come and everyone will know if the 810 is worth the jump from 801 and 805. Unless LG underclocked it did some custom kernel and tweaking so the damn thing doesn't catch fire 2.8 ghz will be overkill on a 5.5 1080p panel. Worst case scenario overheating is true the device will be slow to respond due to heat and a lot of reboot cycles to cool the system down.

Now for good news the SD820 will be what Qualcomm is known for and will be a beast of a SOC, the key is to be patient and wait for the end of the year for it to hit.

I don't want to muddy any waters and bring exynos up but for what it's due Samsung is doing great now with the little.Big configuration and is finally seeing it catching up to Qualcomm 805 processor and holding its own. And that just tells you how efficient Qualcomm made the 800, 801, and 805. Which I believe was one of 2014 best SOC. Apples a8 was meh and designed for a OS that doesn't push boundaries. Hence why it's a dual core clocked 1.3ghz I believe. It's enough since the system doesn't require such a taxing toll on the SOC.
And the games are coded differently for ios and Android so that's why a dual core with a gpu on equal grounds can push just as hard that and less pixels to push out.
Apple has a perfect harmony between resolution and performance requirements. Where as android is multi platformed and takes a bit for it to be optimized.

Sorry rants over God bless android lol. That's my take on the 810 I would not buy a phone with that SOC in a phone not because I don't like or hate Qualcomm but because it's not much of a gain from the older 32bit generation of the 800 family.
 
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This is the third time that everyone just knew about the upcoming Qualcomm overheating in testing.

The first two times were false rumors.

Despite this being in the "news" everyone is quoting and building on a Korean e-rag from December 4, 2014. Yesterday someone tried telling me he read multiple reports. No. One report, no source, straight out of Korea.

And Samsung never officially said it.

Horsefeathers.
 
Well from all of the pre-release rumours it sounds like only Samsung are not planning on using it, and there's no sign that anyone else is delaying launches either.

Actually I've always been surprised that so many Samsung devices have used Qualcomm chips, given that they have their own processor fabrication. There has to be a huge incentive to use your own, as long as both the design and the your ability to produce it economically and in volume are up to scratch. Or maybe it's that too much of their capacity is used making chips for Apple? ;)
 
Well from all of the pre-release rumours it sounds like only Samsung are not planning on using it, and there's no sign that anyone else is delaying launches either.

Actually I've always been surprised that so many Samsung devices have used Qualcomm chips, given that they have their own processor fabrication. There has to be a huge incentive to use your own, as long as both the design and the your ability to produce it economically and in volume are up to scratch. Or maybe it's that too much of their capacity is used making chips for Apple? ;)


Well the main reason being is that exynos and LTA aren't built in unlike the qualcomm SOCs I havent really followed up on anuythig yet but I think they have started building in the LTA chips in the exynos 5 series SOCs. Can't verify that currently on a stop light. lol
 
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015...gon-810-wont-make-it-into-samsungs-galaxy-s6/

january 21st...2015 Reports even from the show room of the lg kept dimming the screen down because of the heat the phone was giving out.

Did LG confirm it was a result of excess heat? It also mentions the device wasn't running "final software* so it might well be software issues as opposed to hardware.

The environment isn't exactly ideal eithet. A showroom floor, full of people so the room is likely to be hot anyway. Also from the screen shots in the article, the demo units were on charge and if they're being constantly picked up and played with, they are going to be hotter than normal. Any device would get hot in that environment.

I'm not saying there isn't going to be a problem, but there's nothing I've seen or read so far that would put me off getting a phone with the 810 in it. I think we'll have to wait for them to get in to the hands of the general public before we can see if there really are issues.
 
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015...gon-810-wont-make-it-into-samsungs-galaxy-s6/

january 21st...2015 Reports even from the show room of the lg kept dimming the screen down because of the heat the phone was giving out.
Let's start with the Ars Technica article itself.

1. As I stated earlier, everyone is on the bandwagon. ARS got it from Bloomberg. Where did they get it? Follow the path upstream.

http://www.businesskorea.co.kr/arti...snapdragon-set-alarm-bells-ringing-samsung-lg

There. That. There has been ONE and ONLY ONE report, that's it, everyone else has been copying it and adding speculation. Each new copy takes some of the speculation, and sometimes even the dumbass Disqus comments, and rehashes it as news.

Look at the date.

It came out on December 4, 2014.

That's the only report and that's the original.

2. LG dimming on the showroom floor.

Added in bullshit, in the pass-the-rumor game.

Had any LGs been overheating at CES there would have been a feeding frenzy to be first to report it.

ARS - a once decent publication now down there with Boy Genius Reports - is the technological reporting equivalent of the National Enquirer. Those are the same idiots that invented the story that the LOC said rooting was illegal - when in fact, the LOC said the opposite.

ARS gave a link that a CES report said that it overheated. So it must be true?

Follow the freaking link -

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8846/lg-g-flex-2-handson-impressions

Oh look - Anandtech. The Anandtech article does NOT MENTION AT ALL WHAT ARS SAID THEY DID.

Anandtech said that they couldn't benchmark any devices, all were running non-final software under stress conditions, with thermal throttling dimming the screens.

That's been happening at CES year in and year out.


3. There is one and only one source for the story, and it was never confirmed. It came unsubstantiated from Korea, and you might want to check the economic politics there in the fights between LG and Samsung and Samsung and Google before you believe their press whole cloth.

4. I know two people on beta test programs with soon to release 810 processors. One brought it for a visit.

There's no overheating on the 810, the article has served its purpose, Qualcomm stock took a hit.

Horsefeathers.
 
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I apologize for the misunderstanding. I tried to be thorough as possible and I will edit the post up there. Thank you.
 
I apologize for the misunderstanding. I tried to be thorough as possible and I will edit the post up there. Thank you.
No apologies required.

If in your opinion, there's something to this, leave your post stand.

My opinion is just that, my opinion. :)

If I came out hot it's because I hate most of the press - not because I wanted to be down on you. ;)
 
No apologies required.

If in your opinion, there's something to this, leave your post stand.

My opinion is just that, my opinion. :)

If I came out hot it's because I hate most of the press - not because I wanted to be down on you. ;)


Thank you, and I understand we all have our opinions I just realize that mine has been building on wrong information. Luckily I'm not blind to new information.
 
I expect that you're exactly right in that if you ever drive one of these things so that every core is running at its max frequency, it's going to get hot.

However, that's been true for a while. Snapdragon S1 phones back in 2010 would shut down if you left them on GPS or tethering for too long.

In 2011 some people were getting burns from their Samsung Galaxy S2 phones dangerously overheating. No pun intended, that one stands out for the flame wars we had to clean up over the issue.

I've no doubt that various model phones can have trouble - as you said, starting with a bad kernel.

I hate the press because they're simple. Someone runs an article, it's monkey see, monkey do - I've been personally told that I was wrong, that's just collaborative proof of the story. Even when there is none. And everything is in black and white with only the words pretending to be gray. And they love soft stories. They get to rehash them and speculate and because there's no hard news, they can't say anything wrong.

I traced one idiot who started a speculation, and it got added to until the chain of references was sixteen articles long. Then the first guy came out saying, wow where did this come from and published "research" citing five other articles as truth. Then it became the top story because now there was "proof" - until it fell down because it never happened.

Pretty sure that was late 2010 or early 2011. I don't remember the story, I just remember the... burn. (Ok, I didn't mean that ending but I'm not removing it either.)
 
my wife is still using an S2 and swears by that she is so used to it that she can't let go, but I agree it gets dangerously hot, hell I left it outside after she watched a 30 min clip on youtube I swear I could see the heat fuming out. HOT HOT haha

My LG G3 when it gets to hot throttles down and dims the screen brightness but I put this thing thru serious hell sometimes. I had few reboots where the phone didn't want to start up again until it cooled down haha.

But I agree with you I have been reading forums here and there the worst ones are where a said person quotes another person who quoted an article from god know wheres and so forth.
 
If you're in the US, my 2011 HTC used the same processor as the SGS2 - with no heating issues.

Goes back to the first comment, heating is usually a system problem or a defective unit.
 
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