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Dumb Republicans

Martimus said:
And apparently you have not spent much time in Mexico nor been to a Mexican celebration! :p
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Uh... I was at Columbus day! Close enough :p

Martimus said:
Flags and banners are all over the place! The Mexican people, as an example, are VERY NATIONALISTIC! Before elections in Mexico, you see banners running across boulevards and giant images of the candidates displayed on the sides of buildings. So based on your assessment Mexicans most must be racists!
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Ah god I certainly dont think nationalists in general are racists, just unfettered nationalism is dangerous.

Martimus said:
Good thing you live over on the other side of the pond EN... cause those words would get you in serious trouble with many proud Mexican people. They will be the first to tell you that they are not, by any means, racist. They are, on the other hand, proud of their heritage... and their nation!
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Ah to be fair, I have Norn Iron on one side and the English on the other.

Martimus said:
Oh, and according to the Internet (which we know MUST be right), only caucasian people can be racist! :rolleyes:
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A lot of East Asians clearly did not get that memo :rolleyes:
 
ElasticNinja said:
Anyway, I found the constant American flag barrage a bit nauseating. I can easily see tourists not realising that America has states.
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Americans don't think of themselves as residents of XYZ state so much. Sure we tend to bash people from the state next door at times and we sometimes mock residents of particular states, but in general we think of ourselves as residents of the US first and residents of XYZ state way, way, way down near the bottom. It would be extremely unusual for one to fly a state flag just by itself, but not unusual at all to fly a US flag solo.
 
A.Nonymous said:
Americans don't think of themselves as residents of XYZ state so much. Sure we tend to bash people from the state next door at times and we sometimes mock residents of particular states, but in general we think of ourselves as residents of the US first and residents of XYZ state way, way, way down near the bottom. It would be extremely unusual for one to fly a state flag just by itself, but not unusual at all to fly a US flag solo.
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Hopefully you are excluding Texas from that statement.:rolleyes:
 
tommy_ed said:
just watched all of those and I gotta say thank you for my laugh of the day :D hahaha
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Heres a laugh# this one said he would get rid of E D U C A T I O N if he was elected president.......(THERE I S A GOD! ....this one got knocked out early in the game!
Slick-Trick-Dick-Rick Perry!
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WHEW! the L O R D heard my PRAYERS "YAW"!
 
A.Nonymous said:
It's not, but whatever.
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I think politics is just another way to cause division, separation, even breakup families over the notion that what "the people" vote these (cough....) "humble public servants" into office for, that they will honor their pledges. I aint pckin on sides here but ROMNEY is NOT humble and is NOT for the common citizen good...i would say that about him if he was a dem, conserv, tea-p or a scallion ,,,,that man is not the right one!



There I go, justmade some divisions....see what I mean?
 
Rico ANDROID said:
I think politics is just another way to cause division, separation, even breakup families over the notion that what "the people" vote these (cough....) "humble public servants" into office for, that they will honor their pledges. I aint pckin on sides here but ROMNEY is NOT humble and is NOT for the common citizen good...i would say that about him if he was a dem, conserv, tea-p or a scallion ,,,,that man is not the right one!



There I go, justmade some divisions....see what I mean?
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Politics is not about division, it's about governing.
 
ElasticNinja said:
Politics is not about division, it's about governing.
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.....and division. Show me one day when repubs and dems were chums and agreed on everything..... Takenit to the community level. Locally there are repubs here who would be your best friend, then when they find that you are a dem, you're on a hate list literally.

And I KNOW it aint just in my neck of the woods. The whole system need to get washed out and start over with "we the people" governing an fb not these GLORIFIED "public servants" who have lost the reality or never had a common bond with everyday citizens
 
Rico ANDROID said:
.....and division. Show me one day when repubs and dems were chums and agreed on everything..... Takenit to the community level. Locally there are repubs here who would be your best friend, then when they find that you are a dem, you're on a hate list literally.

And I KNOW it aint just in my neck of the woods. The whole system need to get washed out and start over with "we the people" governing an fb not these GLORIFIED "public servants" who have lost the reality or never had a common bond with everyday citizens
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Sure, politics causes division, but that's not its purpose.

Democrats and Republicans agree on lots of things; spending lots of money on the military, avoiding a welfare state, keeping healthcare private, the invasion of Iraq, intervensionism, socialism is bad, etc.

Now, the two party system has created far more divide than there is elsewhere in the world, but yeah.

Also, on stuff like banking and big corporations:
http://gu.com/p/3ajq9
 
ElasticNinja said:
Sure, politics causes division, but that's not its purpose.

Democrats and Republicans agree on lots of things; spending lots of money on the military, avoiding a welfare state, keeping healthcare private, the invasion of Iraq, intervensionism, socialism is bad, etc.

Now, the two party system has created far more divide than there is elsewhere in the world, but yeah.

Also, on stuff like banking and big corporations:
Why the 2012 election will be another inside job | Charles Ferguson | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
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Oh, Ninja, I totally agree with you! Believe me, if only they would stick to the purpose and theyd get much much more done instead of being bullheaded just because they dont want to support the administration (when what they really are rebelling is they dont like a certain president) the bickering and arguing thst goes on up till the midnight hour is wasted time rebelling instead of what is their purpose, to work for the people.


That , for the majority of their services, they do not. Very disgusted in not just the current but all prior admins.. Its all a big mess that needs a total overhaul.
 
Hi Ninja, sorry if I came off argumentative... I should be ok moving forward with good discussions....i guess I had to get some things off the ole chesr.... I do like your discussion here...
 
ElasticNinja said:
Democrats and Republicans agree on lots of things; spending lots of money on the military, avoiding a welfare state, keeping healthcare private, the invasion of Iraq, intervensionism, socialism is bad, etc.
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I am going to have to respectfully disagree on this. The parties don't agree on these things. Dems want to cut military spending, GOP doesn't. Dems favor a welfare state, GOP does not. GOP wants healthcare to be private, Dems do not. GOP tends to favor the Iraq war, Dems don't (though they voted for it at the time but now were apparently against it all along). They do agree that interventionism is good, at least in general. Dems seem to think there are good things about socialism, while GOP does not.

I do agree that politics is not about causing division. It is about power though at the end of the day.
 
Democrats
Protects US from foreign attacks (Cuba missile crisis)
Able to win wars (WWII)
People are social animals and fair play strengths society
Oppose military/industrial complex
Support providing for the general welfare (education, infrastructure, environment, etc)
Oppose invading countries that do not threaten US interests
Fix financial collapses caused by Republicans (1929, 2008)
Supports female choice in reproductive health
Advocates government is of and for the people
Supports the science of evolution
Supports separation of church and state
Supports restrictions on buying public elections
Supports progressive taxation
Supports worker rights
Supports progress
Supports individual freedom and responsibility within the context of a just society


Republicans
Unable to defend deadliest attack by foreign nationals, after being warned (World Trade Center)
Unable to win wars (Vietnam, Korea)
Believes some people are more equal than others and those less equal are meant to be exploited
Support military/industrial complex
Support providing for corporate welfare (monopolies, tax cheating, lax corporate criminal enforcement, etc.)
Support lying as a propaganda tool to invade countries that are not a threat to US interest
Cause financial collapses (1929, 2008)
Supports government control of female reproductive health
Advocates government is of and for plutocracy
Supports the superstition of creationism
Supports theocracy
Believes public elections should go to the highest bidder
Opposes taxing their patrons
Supports serfdom
Supports stagnation
Supports feudalism and the doctrine of Master and Servant
 
A.Nonymous said:
I am going to have to respectfully disagree on this. The parties don't agree on these things. Dems want to cut military spending, GOP doesn't. Dems favor a welfare state, GOP does not. GOP wants healthcare to be private, Dems do not. GOP tends to favor the Iraq war, Dems don't (though they voted for it at the time but now were apparently against it all along). They do agree that interventionism is good, at least in general. Dems seem to think there are good things about socialism, while GOP does not.

I do agree that politics is not about causing division. It is about power though at the end of the day.
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Democrats are not really trying to cut military spending, the Republicans want to spend more than the military even wants.
Just because the Democrats are in favor of a safety net for the poor does not mean they want America toto be a welfare state. That is a ridiculous statement.
At this point, any sensible person of any party should be able to agree that the Iraq war was a colossal waste of life and treasure, and since Cowboy Bush didn't bother to fund it, one of the main reasons for our massive national debt.
Won't waste my time with the Socialism comment.
 
A.Nonymous said:
It's not, but whatever.
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Depends how you look at it. One could argue that the Democratic position on issues like gay marriage and abortion are actually more conservative since they keep the government out of peoples business on both counts.
But I do agree the Republicans are more conservative in general, just extremely hypocritical.
 
Gmash said:
Democrats are not really trying to cut military spending, the Republicans want to spend more than the military even wants.
Just because the Democrats are in favor of a safety net for the poor does not mean they want America toto be a welfare state. That is a ridiculous statement.
At this point, any sensible person of any party should be able to agree that the Iraq war was a colossal waste of life and treasure, and since Cowboy Bush didn't bother to fund it, one of the main reasons for our massive national debt.
Won't waste my time with the Socialism comment.
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Well, any time you talk about an entire party you've got to use broad strokes by necessity. I think the Dems would be more likely to support a true welfare state than the GOP would. You're right about Iraq, but it is interesting that the same people who voted for it are now running around acting like they were opposed to it the entire time. The Iraq ware isn't one of the main reasons for the national debt though. I don't think that's a fair statement. It hasn't helped things, but the national debt was massive and growing before 9/11 happened. Both parties do seem to agree that we need to spend more and more money we don't have.

Gmash said:
Depends how you look at it. One could argue that the Democratic position on issues like gay marriage and abortion are actually more conservative since they keep the government out of peoples business on both counts.
But I do agree the Republicans are more conservative in general, just extremely hypocritical.
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Both of those stances are considered socially liberal though. The hypocrisy by both sides is appalling. I swear there is no one in politics who is real. At least not on the national level.

I am curious though about one thing. For those of you who identify with one party or the other are there things about the other party you like?
 
OutofDate1980 said:
Democrats
Protects US from foreign attacks (Cuba missile crisis)
Able to win wars (WWII)
People are social animals and fair play strengths society
Oppose military/industrial complex
Support providing for the general welfare (education, infrastructure, environment, etc)
Oppose invading countries that do not threaten US interests
Fix financial collapses caused by Republicans (1929, 2008)
Supports female choice in reproductive health
Advocates government is of and for the people
Supports the science of evolution
Supports separation of church and state
Supports restrictions on buying public elections
Supports progressive taxation
Supports worker rights
Supports progress
Supports individual freedom and responsibility within the context of a just society


Republicans
Unable to defend deadliest attack by foreign nationals, after being warned (World Trade Center)
Unable to win wars (Vietnam, Korea)
Believes some people are more equal than others and those less equal are meant to be exploited
Support military/industrial complex
Support providing for corporate welfare (monopolies, tax cheating, lax corporate criminal enforcement, etc.)
Support lying as a propaganda tool to invade countries that are not a threat to US interest
Cause financial collapses (1929, 2008)
Supports government control of female reproductive health
Advocates government is of and for plutocracy
Supports the superstition of creationism
Supports theocracy
Believes public elections should go to the highest bidder
Opposes taxing their patrons
Supports serfdom
Supports stagnation
Supports feudalism and the doctrine of Master and Servant
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Under "Dunb Repub", you just described:
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