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Eris OTA Update
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OfTheDamned
The Friendly Undead
Don't tell them you have 2.1!!!!!!!!
They have a whole room full of kittens and really sharp knives. They are just waiting for someone to say something so thet can start the slaughter.
hrbib21
Android Expert
There's no "bait". It's just a joke. People joked about Bush, I joke about Obama. Life goes on.
Roaddog
Well-Known Member
Almost got me. I respect your right to express your opinion. Having said that, please keep your political discussions and opinions out of the current discussion, which is supposed to be the time/date/circumstances surrounding the upcoming OTA 2.1 update. There's a time and a place for this kind of discussion, and I would honestly LOVE the chance to engage on a deeper level, but this isn't the correct place or time for that to happen.
"I may not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."
-Evelyn Beatrice Hall
"I may not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."
-Evelyn Beatrice Hall
It hurts to bite your tongue that hard, huh? Thanks for keeping us on track.
I'm no lawyer but Verizon would be foolish to release what Apple calls intellectual property. I would find it very hard to believe HTC had no heads up a lawsuit was coming. It's not like some process server showed up at the company and served the owner. I'm sure they had weeks or months of negotiations first. Then HTC said screw you Apple...sue us.
This lawsuit is a shot at Google anyways. If you look at the back of your Eris it says google. If the OTA doesn't show up then I suspect I'm on to something about this leak. It was leaked because Verizon isn't going to sell the Eris or the Nexus One in the next few months.
The ’331 Patent, entitled “Time-Based, Non-Constant Translation Of User Interface Objects Between States,” was duly and legally issued on April 22, 2008 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office.
The ’949 Patent, entitled “Touch Screen Device, Method, And Graphical User Interface For Determining Commands By Applying Heuristics,” was duly and legally issued on January 20, 2009 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office. A copy of the ’949 Patent is attached hereto as Exhibit B.
The ’849 Patent, entitled “Unlocking A Device By Performing Gestures On An Unlock Image,” was duly and legally issued on February 2, 2010 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office. A copy of the ’849 Patent is attached hereto as Exhibit C.
The ’381 Patent, entitled “List Scrolling And Document Translation, Scaling, And Rotation On A Touch-Screen Display,” was duly and legally issued on December 23, 2008 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office. A copy of the ’381 Patent is attached hereto as Exhibit D.
Just those few complaints lodged against HTC seems to suggest they are talking about the OS. Verizon would be fools to knowingly pass along intellectual property. I firmly believe that's why it was leaked because the OTA will be MIA in March.
The ’949 Patent, entitled “Touch Screen Device, Method, And Graphical User Interface For Determining Commands By Applying Heuristics,” was duly and legally issued on January 20, 2009 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office. A copy of the ’949 Patent is attached hereto as Exhibit B.
The ’849 Patent, entitled “Unlocking A Device By Performing Gestures On An Unlock Image,” was duly and legally issued on February 2, 2010 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office. A copy of the ’849 Patent is attached hereto as Exhibit C.
The ’381 Patent, entitled “List Scrolling And Document Translation, Scaling, And Rotation On A Touch-Screen Display,” was duly and legally issued on December 23, 2008 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office. A copy of the ’381 Patent is attached hereto as Exhibit D.
Just those few complaints lodged against HTC seems to suggest they are talking about the OS. Verizon would be fools to knowingly pass along intellectual property. I firmly believe that's why it was leaked because the OTA will be MIA in March.
I don't know... all those sound more like hits at Android itself, rather than HTC in particular... I'm no expert (obviously) but in cases like this, the company being sued will almost always plug away with the "offending" (HTC) technology until the very instant that they can't (they lose the case), and even then, they usually end up settling in a way that allows the "offended" (Apple) to cash in on royalties while sales continue.
I personally think the suit is just harassment anyway, because if Apple wanted to be consistent, they'd be suing Microsoft because Windows 7 "kinda looks like Mac OS", and suing laptop makers for adding multi-touch movements into their touch panels (my girlfriend's Gateway she just got has this).
So while I doubt this will stop 2.1 from being officially released, I am kinda pissed that once again, I seem to have bought a phone that has an "end of life" just a couple months after I get it...
I personally think the suit is just harassment anyway, because if Apple wanted to be consistent, they'd be suing Microsoft because Windows 7 "kinda looks like Mac OS", and suing laptop makers for adding multi-touch movements into their touch panels (my girlfriend's Gateway she just got has this).
So while I doubt this will stop 2.1 from being officially released, I am kinda pissed that once again, I seem to have bought a phone that has an "end of life" just a couple months after I get it...
ColonelPanic
Well-Known Member
Does anyone remember RIM. The boards were buzzing about RIM shuttering its doors. Never happened. These things do take time and the manufacturers will continue to produce these devices. This makes Apple look petty and gives Android a lot of street cred.
Why is HTC the first company they hit claiming an infringement on Multi Touch input ? It's over Android. Google has released a statement pledging to be behind HTC. They have tons of money in R & D and if Apple were to successfully stop HTC it would open the floodgates and all others would follow. Google has VERY deep pockets and a large vested interest.
As far as Verizon goes, they would not be liable for releasing devices that , as of yet, have not been proven to infringe on a patent. These patents themselves may be challenged and defeated. All that has happened is a highly publicized complaint. This thing isn't on a docket yet.
Also, let's not forget that HTC released the first "smartphone" 13 years ago and has pioneered the field since. The iPhone hit the market in 2007. I would wager that HTC has a few tricks in its patent bag that almost all manufacturers infringe on in some way. It is highly unlikely this will make it to court. Google won't let its OS die on the vine. There is also the prospect of the re-engineering the technology so that the same function is facilitated through a different mechanism that does not violate the patent. The actual patent is far more intricate than the description we are seeing here.
Lastly, This may back fire in Apple's face. The anti-Microsoft adopts a practice that puts it in the same arena that MS has been derided over. This may very well be seen as indictment of Apple's ability to compete on merit. Did they really think the iPhone would be the apex of mobile technology for eternity ? The Google train isn't slowing down and everyone at Microsoft, Apple and all others better be on notice. This company is conceived and designed to feel the pulse of the future. They have open development. They allow their employees to spend 20% of their time on pet projects. They saw room to further innovate in the mobile arena and have produced a very slick OS. The first one even close to the iPhone OS and unlike Apple have not demanded a closed ecosystem or tied themselves to a single carrier. They have allowed the source of their work to be open, enabling manufacturers like HTC to put their own spin on it. These are the things that Google is doing better than Apple right now and the OS is catching up fast. This lawsuit is proof positive that Apple is fully aware of that fact.
Why is HTC the first company they hit claiming an infringement on Multi Touch input ? It's over Android. Google has released a statement pledging to be behind HTC. They have tons of money in R & D and if Apple were to successfully stop HTC it would open the floodgates and all others would follow. Google has VERY deep pockets and a large vested interest.
As far as Verizon goes, they would not be liable for releasing devices that , as of yet, have not been proven to infringe on a patent. These patents themselves may be challenged and defeated. All that has happened is a highly publicized complaint. This thing isn't on a docket yet.
Also, let's not forget that HTC released the first "smartphone" 13 years ago and has pioneered the field since. The iPhone hit the market in 2007. I would wager that HTC has a few tricks in its patent bag that almost all manufacturers infringe on in some way. It is highly unlikely this will make it to court. Google won't let its OS die on the vine. There is also the prospect of the re-engineering the technology so that the same function is facilitated through a different mechanism that does not violate the patent. The actual patent is far more intricate than the description we are seeing here.
Lastly, This may back fire in Apple's face. The anti-Microsoft adopts a practice that puts it in the same arena that MS has been derided over. This may very well be seen as indictment of Apple's ability to compete on merit. Did they really think the iPhone would be the apex of mobile technology for eternity ? The Google train isn't slowing down and everyone at Microsoft, Apple and all others better be on notice. This company is conceived and designed to feel the pulse of the future. They have open development. They allow their employees to spend 20% of their time on pet projects. They saw room to further innovate in the mobile arena and have produced a very slick OS. The first one even close to the iPhone OS and unlike Apple have not demanded a closed ecosystem or tied themselves to a single carrier. They have allowed the source of their work to be open, enabling manufacturers like HTC to put their own spin on it. These are the things that Google is doing better than Apple right now and the OS is catching up fast. This lawsuit is proof positive that Apple is fully aware of that fact.
never struck me like that no...
if there is a problem report it using the report button
well i could be wrong (happens more than id like to admit).
still. i've got my eye one you, droidcula. i've got my eye on you.....
one vampire per forum allowed.
bjanow
Android Expert
Now it gets interesting.
bjanow
Android Expert
Stop! Not very, very old. Just a little dated that's all. OTD is very, very old. I always used pip describing someone. Kinda like feisty.
Frisco
=Luceat Lux Vestra=
I first heard it used in a 1934 Laurel and Hardy short.
check out this eye i made:well i could be wrong (happens more than id like to admit).
still. i've got my eye one you, droidcula. i've got my eye on you.....
one vampire per forum allowed.
Check out this awesome prosthetic 311 eyeball my bf made!! @p... on Twitpic
p.s. thats from my g/f's twitter.
Frisco
=Luceat Lux Vestra=
Very cool.
OfTheDamned
The Friendly Undead
well i could be wrong (happens more than id like to admit).
still. i've got my eye one you, droidcula. i've got my eye on you.....
one vampire per forum allowed.
That picture is just creepy as hell. As long as they don't start eating the members, there isn't anything wrong with multiple vamps.
Onion was very rude and napster was very dim, I don't think any of them are the same.Why?
Not nice to talk about a ladies age.
On topic: The whole Apple law suite (on purpose) isn't going to mess with anything right now. It will be years before it sees the inside of a courtroom and nobody has filed a cease and desist against HTC. Until then, they are able to use what they have and I am sure they will.
hallstevenson
Android Expert
It's funny how people take any "news" and run with such negative scenarios ! Let me take it further... After April 1st, Verizon is going to turn our phones off too and make us buy new ones.
acipollo
Well-Known Member
hallstevenson
Android Expert
Very interesting that they asked that. FACT IS, ALL Eris phones are officially running f/w 1.5. End-users can't do anything to change that (normally).
OfTheDamned
The Friendly Undead
There not going to turn them off. That is just silly.
They are going to come to our homes and take them. Then they will download porn and viruses to your computer and empty your refrigerator.
<Turns and walks away>
Turn off the phone?
Where do people get these ideas from?
Just silly if you ask me.
Pitamakan
Android Enthusiast
Hey, as long as we get the porn.