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Eris Tethering

I my self have had a broadband connect card from Millenicom for three years as my sole connection and have never gone over 5gb and was just looking to pad my usage if i was to go over the 5g limit that Millenicom has.
 
Hearsay - gossip (usually a mixture of truth and untruth) passed around by word of mouth. Evidence - that which tends to prove or disprove something. Where is the evidence that you tether unencumbered as much as you want to? From where I'm sitting it's all hearsay.
 
mpciii said:
I'm torn now. Do I listen to the pdanet people who obviously just want me to buy their pos app, which has a free version, or do I listen to the Verizon sales guy who is obviously trying to protect his stock options?
Quite a dilemma. I think I'll go with the pdanet guy, he did a better job proving his case.
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They can put it all to bed if they simply prove they thumb their nose at verizons 5GB limit. That would put this whole thing to rest.But of course, they can't nor will they ever be able to prove they go over when ever they want to.
 
A 99 cent application or a 30 dollar application.You folks don't think they have an agenda? I'd work a lot harder for 30 bucks than I would for 99 cents.
 
Droidcula, just face it, you're wrong and ever one of your posts has been pwned. Dont feel so bad you are just one of many that i pwned.
 
Open letter to PDANet salesmen.Guarantee your paid customers REIMBURSEMENT if Verizon charges or cancels their service.If you're unable to do that then please quit trying to push your product on this site.
 
onion said:
Droidcula, just face it, you're wrong and ever one of your posts has been pwned. Dont feel so bad you are just one of many that i pwned.
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Still waiting on proof you tether without ANY reprocussions. That you thumb your nose at the legal contract you agreed to.Where is the proof Onion or is there any?
 
FYI...In Florida you can drive 120 MPH in a school zone. Don't worry about verifying that. Just take my word on it.LOL!!!! I believe everything I read on the internet....don't you guys?
 
Droidcula said:
Prove they don't have control. Post your monthly data usage why don't ya? PS...their network doesn't belong to YOU nor does it belong to the Europeans. It belongs to them....them being Verizon. You are leasing their network. That's why you pay a monthly BILL. They can CRUSH you at will if they want to.
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Unless you have a degree in network engineering then please don't try and play this.That statement to me is the equivalent of "The CIA has mini cameras watching your every move". Also I'm not cheap, I have a 20MB/s cable modem connection but its nice to know if I need to tether every now and then I can. Oh yeah you should see my face not caring right now its wild. Your rude, obnoxious and overally aggressive and your wrong. kthnxbai.

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DFA1 said:
Shouldn't you be using an iPhone? :D
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LOL :D Not all of us Apple fanboys have iPhones. Would love to see it on Verizon's network, but I'm really impressed with the Android OS, so I can wait, even if it doesn't come, I'm hopeful that we will see better Android phones in the years to come.
 
Droidcula + onion = lots of time wasted without getting one step closer to knowing if I am safe to tether or not. Thanks guys.
 
Droidcula said:
I'm calling BS on it's not a acting like a router. A modem modulates and demodulates. A router does not. A router ROUTES. YOUR droid eris does not modulate and demodulate. Your droid eris ROUTES when you tether. Internet explorer (on your computer) sends information all the time to microsoft. Every time you open IE it sends something. This is how Verizon would know the signal didn't originate from your phone. They will check the packets. The packets will show your mac or your local which will be different than your phone. Use a personal information filter (LIKE I DO) and you will see how much IE sends over the internet from YOUR COMPUTER. PS...I tethered for a little over an hour and it cost me 82MB in data usage. No way are you people tethering like you say and Verizon isn't calling you out. So I'm calling you out. Post a verizon bill that shows you go over the 5 GB limit tethering.
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Fulltime Traveler said:
2. If you consumed 82 MB of data in one hour, you were getting connect speeds of over 18 Mbps.
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-82MB = 656megabits
-656megabits in 1 hour (or a little over like you said)
-which is 10.93 megabits per minute used (if I rounded the 656 into one hour, yes, I know you said more than an hour)
-That's a steady .18 megabits per second for one hour to get 82MB...not 18mbps

18mbps is more like downloading 8GB over the course of an hour :)
 
OK - So a real world, non-hyperbolic input here --

I was on vacation last week. No internet access for my mac. Needed to get the mac online (couldn't get my online banking site to work correctly with the eris). Downloaded the free pdanet app, installed the mac application, followed the directions and boom - the mac is online with perfectly respectable response time (on 3G).

I have no idea how much data was transferred, but it seems likely that if the tethering is only used for connecting your computer in a pinch that it would fall way under 5GB.
If you are really using your cell phone as your primary internet pipeline, that is a non-typical case scenario.
 
Slugdoc said:
it seems likely that if the tethering is only used for connecting your computer in a pinch that it would fall way under 5GB.
If you are really using your cell phone as your primary internet pipeline, that is a non-typical case scenario.
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This sounds perfectly reasonable to me. I am envisioning a situation where I am, for example, at a stupid hotel that does not offer wifi access. It would come in handy for any general web needs.

The 5GB cap makes sense. I use the web on my phone quite a bit and am tracking my usage with 3G watchdog. I struggle even to use half of 5 gigs per month. Couple this with occasional tethering and I would imagine that it would still be no problem to stay under 5 gigs. Verizon probably calls it "unlimited" because there are very few people who actually access their data network that often.
 
cassnate6259 said:
This sounds perfectly reasonable to me. I am envisioning a situation where I am, for example, at a stupid hotel that does not offer wifi access. It would come in handy for any general web needs.

The 5GB cap makes sense. I use the web on my phone quite a bit and am tracking my usage with 3G watchdog. I struggle even to use half of 5 gigs per month. Couple this with occasional tethering and I would imagine that it would still be no problem to stay under 5 gigs. Verizon probably calls it "unlimited" because there are very few people who actually access their data network that often.
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SIGH..... reality is not what you make believe it is. There is NO cap on the unlimited data plan for phones. Verizon ready has been sued and lost big time with the "unlimited" 5gb cap mobile broadband gimmick they had going a few years ago.

They no longer use the term "unlimited" unless there is really no limit.

Yes I worked at Verizon, you have not.
 
GadgetAddicted said:
-82MB = 656megabits
-656megabits in 1 hour (or a little over like you said)
-which is 10.93 megabits per minute used (if I rounded the 656 into one hour, yes, I know you said more than an hour)
-That's a steady .18 megabits per second for one hour to get 82MB...not 18mbps

18mbps is more like downloading 8GB over the course of an hour :)
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You're right. My mistake.

Thanks for the correction. There is enough noise in this thread without my contributing an arithmetic error.
 
Droidcula said:
I'm calling BS on it's not a acting like a router. A modem modulates and demodulates. A router does not. A router ROUTES. YOUR droid eris does not modulate and demodulate. Your droid eris ROUTES when you tether. Internet explorer (on your computer) sends information all the time to microsoft. Every time you open IE it sends something. This is how Verizon would know the signal didn't originate from your phone. They will check the packets. The packets will show your mac or your local which will be different than your phone. Use a personal information filter (LIKE I DO) and you will see how much IE sends over the internet from YOUR COMPUTER. PS...I tethered for a little over an hour and it cost me 82MB in data usage. No way are you people tethering like you say and Verizon isn't calling you out. So I'm calling you out. Post a verizon bill that shows you go over the 5 GB limit tethering.
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I'm not sure what kind of work you do, but I figured I'd post. When you have a router, nobody outside your local network can see your MAC address or your local IP Address, which is the one your router assigns you. If an Eris was tethered and functioned as a router, the Eris would have a public IP address, leased from VZW and would assign your computer a local IP address. VZW would have no idea that any packets were originating from your computer because they would only be able to see packets being sent from your Eris, acting as a router. The Eris works as a modem, grabbing an IP address from VZW and passing it along to your computer.

To verify this, simply tether your computer, go to Start -> run and then type CMD and press enter. Type IPCONFIG in the CMD windows and press enter. If the Eris is functioning as a router the IP address will most likely be 192.168.1.100 or something similar.

I can assure you any cell phone being tethered is not functioning as a router, but as a modem in the same capacity as a cable modem does from Comcast, as an example.
 
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