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Fear the Note5 will follow S6 trend

Yea LG has said they'll be releasing a premium device by the end of the year, and since they already have the g4 hopefully it'll be a phablet.
No idea why anyone would want a phone with a glass back over plastic. I can't remember a single review saying that the note 4 felt cheap and plasticy in hand. I don't think I know a single person that didn't have a case on their smartphone, so I guess I'm not too concerned with how a phone looks anyways. Am I really in the minority if I care more about what the phone can do than how it looks?
 
I like a phone with a plastic back cover. And also, as stated, almost no one goes without a case these days. If you do, you are playing with fire. A decent case and a tempered glass screen protector are the way to go. No need to copy crApple, we don't want a phone that looks like theirs. Especially if that means no removable batter and no SD card.

No, I firmly believe the whole nixing of the SD card is simply another attempt to follow in Apples restrictive, our way or no way, funneling of people into cloud data and similar ways of squeezing more money out of the phone owner. I will give up shiny looks over useable substance any and every day of the week instead of allowing these giant corporations to control my device in the way they are doing now.
 
Just 2 weeks ago I said "I'm not sure I could abandon Samsung Note features for the new Google project ara."

Samsung sure as h*ll just made that easy for me.

All hail the note 4. Samsung's greatest hit. It's like the MW2 of cell phones. Sigh..

Batteries are not designed to last long enough to base an $800+ purchase on one that cannot be replaced. No thanks. I just don't see why people care so much about a "solid" device that isn't waterproof. Are these people paying cash for their phones? I mean, I use next with early payoff. But it sure sounds to me that we're getting devices DESIGNED to be replaced every year.
Amoled burns in after a year-still being sold
Batteries last roughly a year- now being sealed

This is a very poorly structured first post but its just the angry hick in me I suppose.

They took are feachures!!
 
To be honest... if you have a Note 4 and are not getting a Note 5 because the non-removable battery won't "last long enough" - I'm not sure that should be a concern, considering that you were willing to switch phones in under a year. The battery should last longer than a year. I charge my phones every day and I've yet to have any fail after just one year.

I have no use for a "waterproof" phone either. The GS6 actually performed well being submerged in water for 20+ minutes, and I really don't plan on swimming or showering with my phone. The Note 4 was not waterproof either.

That being said, the non microSD card slot (if it wont' have one), and the inability to swap a fresh battery in are legit issues, though. I'm hoping at least the card slot will come through. (Fingers crossed.)
 
I for one usually pass down my older phones so even though the battery might be fine for me, it won't be two years from now. I recently gave my mom my note 2 and after I wiped it and bought a new battery it's like a brand new phone.

I've also become accustomed to never plugging my phone in. I have a battery kit at work and another at home so I literally never do it. I don't understand how taking 100 minutes to charge a phone can be looked at as such and awesome feature but taking 30 seconds to get to a full charge is something people don't mind doing without.
 
It's taking a lot of patience to just wait and finally see what the Note 5 does and doesn't come out with. The removable battery seems completely out of the question, no doubts seem to be there about that. And I think I could work myself into dealing with that needless inconvenience. The possibility of a microSD slot seems to have been more ambiguous, and waxed and waned in the past few weeks. At the moment the rumors are clearly heading in the direction of no such availability. I have to admit it's maddening to hear. It makes me want to say that if that's really what some executive(s) at the company really wanted to believe they could get away with dropping, I hope it KILLS the sales numbers of the device, and they lose their jobs. They very well deserve to, in that case.
 
I guess the good news is that whatever the note 5 brings it doesn't make my note 4 any less awesome. If nothing else comes out in the next several months that warrants using my upgrade I'll gladly hold onto it for another year.
 
Regarding the 7422 supposedly including storage on the chip, I mentioned -

http://phandroid.com/2015/07/08/samsung-galaxy-note-5-cpu/

"... 7422’s claim to fame is it being Samsung’s first chipset to combine CPU, GPU, RAM, Storage and an LTE modem in one neat package."

Well that would certainly change a lot about phone manufacturing.

So - for multiple storage offerings, there would have to be separate versions of the SoC.

That's not a trivial thing to do. Unit price is highly influenced by yield - the average number of good chips per wafer - and this would be a BIG chip.
 
Samsung will be shown how far it has its head up its ass if they think they can have a dominant product that's crippled with having only a small, finite amount of storage. They are deluding themselves if they believe that 'THE ALL HOLY CLOUD' frees them from responsibility for that. Imagine - they put a much improved camera in the Note 5 and then they take a baseball bat to its knees by severely constraining its available storage space for pictures and videos. I *had* been very highly anticipating and looking forward to a next generation device that improved on all the already fantastic capabilities my Note 3 finally made real when I bought it almost two years ago. If the current leaks about the Note 5's storage turn out to indeed be true, I can't see how I'll be moving on to a Note 5. I'll either begin looking for the right deal on a Note 4, or else just keep going with my Note 3 until Samsung or someone else recognizes the gaping hole they opened up in the product space and finally fills it back in with a device that REALLY does fill it, rather than inexcusably, uselessly tries to pretend it isn't there.
 
Memory speed aside (to be honest, I never had a problem with the speed of a microSD card since I mainly use it for storage), I think another reason why this bugs me is that you are forced to buy the model of the memory capacity you want in the beginning, making this the decision you have to live with as opposed to deciding if you need more storage later on. The 128GB version of the GS6 was about $1049 non-subsidized. What is the Note5 128GB going to cost? $1149? $1249? - and you don't even get as much of the 128GB as a microSD card would give you, given that some of it is used up for the system. I am sure the memory increments are going to be spaced apart by $100 - more than what memory cards go for now.

Sigh - just a little frustrated and still holding out slim hope I guess.
 
I don't think VZW even offered the Note 4 in anything but 32GB. The Sprint Note 5 was rumored to sport a slot, and I'm holding out hope of one on Big Red. But I agree with Kup: if there is no expandable memory, I'm passing and shopping for something else. If anything at all.
 
If Samsung builds a Note 5 with 128GB, and Verizon offers it, I'll consider it, if the price is manageable. But if not, I'd say it seems like Samsung is just trying to do literally all it can to make the Note 5 as undesirable as it possibly can. Literally.
 
I am now hanging a little bit of hope on the possibility that at the very least, there will in fact be a 128GB version of the Note 5 released, and that Verizon will offer it. I know - it sounds like a long shot. But if it gets that far, then it looks like ZeroLemon makes battery cases that hold an extra battery and let you tap into it with the flip of a switch. Not the most efficient way to get juice but it would work.
 
Not good news at all. Gues I will be going with a note 4. May be leaving Samsung all together as they seem to be copying apple's ploy of sucking more money out of you, if you prefer more storage.
KNOX making it almost impossible to even obtain root anymore let alone customs roms.
LG G4 already rooted and I believe has a working recovery (TWRP).
May be the new direction I am heading.
I cannot stand bloatware. I just don't want to be able to disable it, I want to be able to delete it and not not let it use up precious space. I need to have ad-blocker installed, xposed, root explorer, etc etc.....lol
Getting back on topic, Rushmore has pretty much nailed what my sediments are with the NOT 5. Yes I spelled it NOT 5 on purpose, cause I am NOT getting that double sided mirror piece of s**t !!!
In my own mind I would always defend Samsung when you would hear all the *pple fanboys say that they are huge copycats of *pple. Unfortunately, now I have to agree with them. If the Galaxy s6 does not look like a freaking clone of the IPhone 6, then I don't know what does. Very sad indeed.
 
Slightly off topic but reading through this thread gave me a couple of great ideas for possible article titles;

"The Dumbing Down of Smartphones"
"Are Personal Computers still relevant?"

I'm not a conspiracy theorist but could it be that Smartphone sales are hurting Apple, Google and Microsoft's PC related sales? To bad I'm also not an article writer. :(
 
Verified (as much as possible w/Tele-Sales) the Note Edge is no longer available @ T-Mobile. (local stock YMMV)
The Edge was last seen on T-Mobile's site 8/5/15.
Last time I looked,still available w/Sprint & AT&T.
Get 'em while you can,before we lose this species to extinction......:(
 
Again, slightly off topic, but the recent Carphone Warehouse hacking makes me never want anything to do with the cloud.
The servers are NOT secure obviously, or am I barking at wrong tree.
A quick pull of battery fixes a frozen phone- how would or could you sort that out with fixed battery ??
 
gregg1100 said:
Again, slightly off topic, but the recent Carphone Warehouse hacking makes me never want anything to do with the cloud.
The servers are NOT secure obviously, or am I barking at wrong tree.
A quick pull of battery fixes a frozen phone- how would or could you sort that out with fixed battery ??
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Hopefully one could long-press the power button to reboot the same as a battery pull. I say hopefully, no guarantee that will be the case. I agree that there are times it sure is nice to be able to do a battery pull. But let's be realistic, most phones are going away from the removable battery unfortunately. I hope this is a trend that reverses itself, but I don't think it will.
 
Fixed battery and non-removable storage emerged as trends in Android at the same time, a few years ago. The non-removable storage trend reversed, with only Samsung going the other way (even Motorola have brought SD cards back with the new X models). Fixed batteries have however just become more prevalent.

Pep's question "if you are going to seal it, why not waterproof?" is a good one, since sealing should make waterproofing easier. However, we've already seen that with the S6, so no surprise if the Note 5 is the same :(.
 
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