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Root [GSM] Just rooted evo 3d (rogers) wont stop looping

Hey guys,

Im new to the forum, and you could say I am a noob as i still dont know what all this rooting or unlocking bootloader does! lol

Anyways, I used this amazing guide (http://androidforums.com/3892643-post2.html) by jerofld to root the phone I have, however, the issue now is that despite following all the steps exactly (except that I installed the latest cyagenmod rom for evo 3d gsm instead of the superuser stock rom) the phone is stuck in a boot loop.

When i bootload it to the computer while connected, this phone does not give the "fastboot usb" thing

Also I made sure to clear the two caches that were suggested and wiped the data.

Does anyone have any suggestions to help me install the cm rom on this phone, and get back to normal? :)

Thanks a ton,
Anshuman
 
Hey guys,

Im new to the forum, and you could say I am a noob as i still dont know what all this rooting or unlocking bootloader does! lol

Anyways, I used this amazing guide (http://androidforums.com/3892643-post2.html) by jerofld to root the phone I have, however, the issue now is that despite following all the steps exactly (except that I installed the latest cyagenmod rom for evo 3d gsm instead of the superuser stock rom) the phone is stuck in a boot loop.

When i bootload it to the computer while connected, this phone does not give the "fastboot usb" thing

Also I made sure to clear the two caches that were suggested and wiped the data.

Does anyone have any suggestions to help me install the cm rom on this phone, and get back to normal? :)

Thanks a ton,
Anshuman

Usually you need a downgraded hboot to flash the aosp roms. This basically means your current hboot version isn't compatible with the rom you flashed. It can't boot the rom. You can't downgrade unless you are s-off. Try flashing the suggested rom from the guide and see if your phone boots up. Also, if you followed all the steps in the guide, then you should have made a nandroid backup before flashing a rom. If that's true, then you could restore your backup to get booted back up and then go from there.

To restore your backup, do a battery pull and then hold volume down+power to get into your bootloader. From there select recovery. Once in recovery go to backup/restore and restore the backup you made.

It's always a good idea to make a backup before flashing anything, for this exact reason. If something goes wrong, you can just restore your backup.
 
Usually you need a downgraded hboot to flash the aosp roms. This basically means your current hboot version isn't compatible with the rom you flashed. It can't boot the rom. You can't downgrade unless you are s-off. Try flashing the suggested rom from the guide and see if your phone boots up. Also, if you followed all the steps in the guide, then you should have made a nandroid backup before flashing a rom. If that's true, then you could restore your backup to get booted back up and then go from there.

To restore your backup, do a battery pull and then hold volume down+power to get into your bootloader. From there select recovery. Once in recovery go to backup/restore and restore the backup you made.

It's always a good idea to make a backup before flashing anything, for this exact reason. If something goes wrong, you can just restore your backup.

Hey thanks for the suggestion, and i restored the backup like suggested, and did the rest, but even this SuperUser rom patch does not work. The phone is still in a loop cycle. :S
 
Hey thanks for the suggestion, and i restored the backup like suggested, and did the rest, but even this SuperUser rom patch does not work. The phone is still in a loop cycle. :S

So you successfully restored your backup and your pone booted up? Then flashing the stock rom caused a bootloop again?!

To at least get root on your phone try this:
-Restore backup again so you can have a working stock rom.
-Go to this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053 and download the file called UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.02.zip
- Put that file on your sd card and boot into your recovery again and choose install zip from sd card. Then select that file. Let it flash and you should be rooted.

To check, download root checker from the play store and make sure.

Flashing this super user patch on your stock rom is really the same thing as flashing a stock rom with super user. This way you are just rooting your stock rom. The other way you are flashing the rooted stock rom.

This should at least have you rooted on the stock rom, then after you have root we can figure out how to flash some other roms if you want to.
 
So you successfully restored your backup and your pone booted up? Then flashing the stock rom caused a bootloop again?!

To at least get root on your phone try this:
-Restore backup again so you can have a working stock rom.
-Go to this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053 and download the file called UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.02.zip
- Put that file on your sd card and boot into your recovery again and choose install zip from sd card. Then select that file. Let it flash and you should be rooted.

To check, download root checker from the play store and make sure.

Flashing this super user patch on your stock rom is really the same thing as flashing a stock rom with super user. This way you are just rooting your stock rom. The other way you are flashing the rooted stock rom.

This should at least have you rooted on the stock rom, then after you have root we can figure out how to flash some other roms if you want to.
The only backup i have made is from Step 6:

"Now that we have CWM 4.0.1.4 installed, we should make a back up. This is done by using the volume keys and pushing power as enter. If I remember how CWM makes backups correctly, it backs up everything."

I did that but now when I restore that and I turn on the phone it starts looping again.. I dont know if it is supposed to do that.
 
The only backup i have made is from Step 6:

"Now that we have CWM 4.0.1.4 installed, we should make a back up. This is done by using the volume keys and pushing power as enter. If I remember how CWM makes backups correctly, it backs up everything."

I did that but now when I restore that and I turn on the phone it starts looping again.. I dont know if it is supposed to do that.

Hmm... It sounds like possibly you may need to flash a boot.img or something. I am not as familiar with the GSM version so I don't feel comfortable telling you specific files to flash because I would hate to brick your phone.

I am going to PM Scotty as he is very familiar with GSM and also everything HTC related. He is the man! I will ask him to come look at your thread as soon as he can. :o

As a last resort, we could run the RUU for your phone and get it back to stock so you could at least boot up until you are ready to try rooting it again. But this might be unnecessary as Scotty may have a simpler solution!
 
Hmm... It sounds like possibly you may need to flash a boot.img or something. I am not as familiar with the GSM version so I don't feel comfortable telling you specific files to flash because I would hate to brick your phone.

I am going to PM Scotty as he is very familiar with GSM and also everything HTC related. He is the man! I will ask him to come look at your thread as soon as he can. :o

As a last resort, we could run the RUU for your phone and get it back to stock so you could at least boot up until you are ready to try rooting it again. But this might be unnecessary as Scotty may have a simpler solution!
Hey man, thanks for all the help. Looking forward to Scotty helping me further!
 
a link to the specific rom you used may be helpful. as brian mentioned,many AOSP roms require the gingerbread hboot. due to the different mount points on ICS /JB and GB,the hboots are not compatible without modifications to the rom.

if you had successfully flashed the boot image and a cm 9 or 10 rom that required the older hboot,then that is a problem.

if you flashed an AOSP rom designed to work with 1.53 hboot,but did not successfully flash an AOSP boot image,then that is also a prollem :eek:

if you have an AOSP kernel on you your phone from the initial rom flash,then tried to restore a backup or flash a new (stock)rom without also flashing the boot image,then again,that is a prollem.

in a nutshell:
-rom and boot image need to be compatible
-rom and firmware(hboot) need to be compatible

this is why htcdev sucks for rom flashing. recovery CANNOT write to the boot image,it must be installed manually. in theory,all we need to do id install a rom that matches the kernel on the phone,or install a kernel that matches the rom.

im a little confused about how/if you flashed the kernel,and also it may be a prollem that you do not have fastboot usb displayed onthe fastboot screen. this suggests that:
-the phone is in hboot,not fastboot
-you may have a bad cable
-you may need to switch ports,or reboot the pc
-you may have htc sync,pdanet,or some other program running that is interfering with phone comunication.

at this point,i think we need to pick a stable rom/boot image and start over to get back to a working device. you can either:
1)flash the rom in recovery,and manually flash the boot image in fastboot

or

2)launch your recovery into phone memory so that it is able to write the boot image like any other s-off device. more info on that here: http://androidforums.com/gsm-evo-3d...install-recovery-root-htcdev.html#post5139976

i would highly suggest #2. this is what i did when i was cursed with s-on devices. while its an inconvenience to hook to the PC and boot recovery,the process is overall easier than manually extracting the boot image and flashing it seperately.

just holler if you have questions :)
 
Thanks so much scotty! You are so good at explaining things on a level that I can't! I didn't have to deal with s-on too much because I decided to get s-off pretty quickly after rooting. But the advice scotty gave is great! I knew we needed to flash a compatible rom, which you tried but it makes sense now why you were still in a bootloop.
 
Thanks so much scotty! You are so good at explaining things on a level that I can't! I didn't have to deal with s-on too much because I decided to get s-off pretty quickly after rooting. But the advice scotty gave is great! I knew we needed to flash a compatible rom, which you tried but it makes sense now why you were still in a bootloop.

ive had more s on experience than id like to admit to,lol.. my rezound was s on for a long time before jpbear. an unfortunatel repair experience with htc has left my un-s off-able one x back on s on :mad: and i just picked up a one s(also s offable)

fastboot booting the recovery into phone memory really does work,and makes dealing with s on alot easier. the biggest disadvantge being having to plug in to launch recovery,followed by a close second of being stuck on one firmware ;)

hopefully launching recovery into memory and either restoring the backup,or flashing a stock rom will get everything sorted :smokingsomb:
 
a link to the specific rom you used may be helpful. as brian mentioned,many AOSP roms require the gingerbread hboot. due to the different mount points on ICS /JB and GB,the hboots are not compatible without modifications to the rom.

if you had successfully flashed the boot image and a cm 9 or 10 rom that required the older hboot,then that is a problem.

if you flashed an AOSP rom designed to work with 1.53 hboot,but did not successfully flash an AOSP boot image,then that is also a prollem :eek:

if you have an AOSP kernel on you your phone from the initial rom flash,then tried to restore a backup or flash a new (stock)rom without also flashing the boot image,then again,that is a prollem.

in a nutshell:
-rom and boot image need to be compatible
-rom and firmware(hboot) need to be compatible

this is why htcdev sucks for rom flashing. recovery CANNOT write to the boot image,it must be installed manually. in theory,all we need to do id install a rom that matches the kernel on the phone,or install a kernel that matches the rom.

im a little confused about how/if you flashed the kernel,and also it may be a prollem that you do not have fastboot usb displayed onthe fastboot screen. this suggests that:
-the phone is in hboot,not fastboot
-you may have a bad cable
-you may need to switch ports,or reboot the pc
-you may have htc sync,pdanet,or some other program running that is interfering with phone comunication.

at this point,i think we need to pick a stable rom/boot image and start over to get back to a working device. you can either:
1)flash the rom in recovery,and manually flash the boot image in fastboot

or

2)launch your recovery into phone memory so that it is able to write the boot image like any other s-off device. more info on that here: http://androidforums.com/gsm-evo-3d...install-recovery-root-htcdev.html#post5139976

i would highly suggest #2. this is what i did when i was cursed with s-on devices. while its an inconvenience to hook to the PC and boot recovery,the process is overall easier than manually extracting the boot image and flashing it seperately.

just holler if you have questions :)

Woah man Scotty, all that stuff sounds tight.. Its very difficult for me to understand the terms though ( as you know I am newbie lol)

I downloaded the latest cyanogen rom in this downloads section here (CyanogenMod Downloads)

I think its called cyanogenmod rom for shooteru

I had to take the usb cable out as the phone was bootlooping.. (to take out the battery, the build is such that you have to take out the cover first) But the phone was fastboot before it started looping

And now I am in Fastboot USB thanks for the tip.. I was not in Fastboot usb after i tried reflashing with the superuser patch rom, i dunno if that makes a difference..

So would you suggest that I do the temporary or permanent recovery if I want to get s-off and install cyanogenmod?

Thanks guys
 
Woah man Scotty, all that stuff sounds tight.. Its very difficult for me to understand the terms though ( as you know I am newbie lol)

I downloaded the latest cyanogen rom in this downloads section here (CyanogenMod Downloads)

I think its called cyanogenmod rom for shooteru

I had to take the usb cable out as the phone was bootlooping.. (to take out the battery, the build is such that you have to take out the cover first) But the phone was fastboot before it started looping

And now I am in Fastboot USB thanks for the tip.. I was not in Fastboot usb after i tried reflashing with the superuser patch rom, i dunno if that makes a difference..

So would you suggest that I do the temporary or permanent recovery if I want to get s-off and install cyanogenmod?

Thanks guys

if you want to get s off,the unlimited teaM is very specific that you must be on a stock,rooted rom. what we should do if you want to become s-off:
1)relock bootloader
2)run the ruu for your current build
3)re-unlock the bootloader
4)install or launch recovery(doesnt really matter wich to flash superuser)
5)flash superuser
6)run jpbear tool

more info and links here: http://androidforums.com/gsm-evo-3d...nfo-faq-root-s-off-gsm-evo-3d-all-hboots.html

we will need to figure out what your previous build number/cid is. we can find this by doing the following:
first download and install these drivers: revolutionary drivers

then,download this small file:
mini-adb.zip

-unzip it,and place the unzipped folder onto the root of your C drive(not inside a folder)

-open a cmd window(with win 7,click start bubble,type "command" or "cmd" in hte search box)

-now change to your mini-adb directory(assuming you didnt chagne the name). type in the black cmd window that opened on your PC:
cd c:\mini-adb

-pull the battery in your phone for a few seconds. hold volume down,then power. hold them both until you see the white/colored writing hboot screen

-select "fastboot" from the hboot menu with the vol rocker/power button

-in your cmd window type:
fastboot devices

it should output your phones serial number. if so youre good to go. if not,youre apparently having a driver issue. i usually recomend these drivers from Revolutionary: modified htc drivers download and install the drivers(you should just have to run that file). afterwards,unplug your phone,plug it back in. make sure its in fastboot. as soon as you get a result from "fastboot devices" your ready to procede to the next step.

-in your cmd window,type(or copy/paste,is much easier):
fastboot getvar all

-copy the info that outputs here. right click in your cmd window,click mark,highlight it all in white. hit enter. paste the info here. it will help us know which ruu for you to run. :)

since you allready have the sdk set up from rooting,you may not need all those directions. the important steps for you are:
-open cmd window
-chagne to fastboot directory(like when you got the id token)
-place phone in fastboot and plug in
-enter:
fastboot getvar all

paste the resulting output here :)

in the mean time,you can get back to a working phone by following the directions to boot recovery,then restore your backup. ext 4 will restore a cw backup.

the link above should have taken you to the second post. you wont need the first post directions since youre allready rooted. the directions you need to follow specifically are these:
some more detailed instructions

if you rooted with my guide,then you have seen this before. its basically the directions to "temporarily flash recovery"

for those that have rooted via other means,you can modify these directions to fit whatever folder you have adb/fastboot in,or you just use these directions:

download these files:
-mini-adb.zip: mini-adb.zip
-Ext 4 recovery image: PG86IMG-recovery-ext4-10055-shooteru.zip

first thing you need is drivers for adb to see your phone. if you have htc sync installed,you should allready have drivers. if not,you can install htc sync,or install these modified htc drivers from revolutionary (i recomand revolutionary drivers)

1)prepair ADB
-unzip your mini-adb.zip file. this is native funtionality in windows 7. you otherwise may need a utility such as "7-zip" to extract,or unzip it. place the unzipped folder onto the root of your C\ drive on your PC(sorry, you mac guys will need to develop this for yourself,i dont have a mac). root means the top level,not inside any folders. so just copy and paste,or drag and drop the folder onto C with everything else that is there. rename it to "mini-adb_shooter" since youll be putting some 3vo(shooter) specific files in here. you actually can call it whatver you want,but directions from here forward will assume this folder to be named "mini-adb_shooter"
-open a command window. on windows 7,click the start bubble in the lower left and type "command" in the search box. xp i believe is similar or the same. doing this should open a small black command window.
-change to your mini-adb_vigor directory. type the following at the prompt in your cmd window:

cd c:\mini-adb_shooter


2)launch a temporary recovery:
-move the image file from your downloaded zip file, and place it into the mini-adb_shooter folder.

-type in your cmd window,or copy/paste the commands that are in bold

-check the md5 of your recovery image:

md5sums <recoveryname>.img

i.e.,if youre using an image named recovery-ext4-10055-shooteru,then your command will be:
md5sums recovery-ext4-10055-shooteru.img

**make sure the resulting md5 matches any available listed md5 sums. **
(for the ext 4 recovery linked,the image md5 will be: 613b354baf7591a45bb2bff271772c1c)

-enable usb debugging on your phone and plug it in,charge only mode.

-check for connectivity:

adb devices

-it should reply with your serial number. if so,then:

adb reboot bootloader

-this will boot your phone into "fastboot" wich is a white screen with coloered letters.

-check for connectivity:

fastboot devices

-should return serial number

-temporarily launch your recovery to phone memory:

fastboot boot <recoveryname>.img

again,if youre using an image named as above:
fastboot boot recovery-ext4-10055-shooteru.img

-youll see a (really fast) green status bar on the top right as your PC sends the recovery to your phone. youll then see the HTC splash screen,then your recovery.

now that youre recovery is running,you have lots of options. you can mount usb storage to move things on and off the sd card if you need to.

note that once recovery is running,you can unplug from the PC if you want to flash your rom from the couch,ktichen table,or wherever :)

you can now restore a backup,or flash a rom.

last and not least,a couple notes:
-to paste into the cmd window,you must right click/paste. you cannot control/v
-to copy from the cmd window,right click. click mark. highlight everything to copy in white. now hit enter,or right click again.

holler if you have more questions :)

once youve got 4ext running from those directions,restore your stock backup,and we should be back to a working phone :)

*note that the directions assume a working phone. since yours wont boot,simply ignore the adb devices and adb reboot bootloader commands. just start with your phone in fastboot and plugged in.

edit:
to answer your other question,the superuser files wont cause your phone to bootloop,and they wont fix it either. your phone is not booting becasue your rom and kernel dont match,or your rom and hboot dont match. or all 3 :p

restoring your backup with a booted recovery is your best bet to get back to a functional device at this point :)
 
if you want to get s off,the unlimited teaM is very specific that you must be on a stock,rooted rom. what we should do if you want to become s-off:
1)relock bootloader
2)run the ruu for your current build
3)re-unlock the bootloader
4)install or launch recovery(doesnt really matter wich to flash superuser)
5)flash superuser
6)run jpbear tool

more info and links here: http://androidforums.com/gsm-evo-3d...nfo-faq-root-s-off-gsm-evo-3d-all-hboots.html

we will need to figure out what your previous build number/cid is. we can find this by doing the following:


since you allready have the sdk set up from rooting,you may not need all those directions. the important steps for you are:
-open cmd window
-chagne to fastboot directory(like when you got the id token)
-place phone in fastboot and plug in
-enter:
fastboot getvar all

paste the resulting output here :)

in the mean time,you can get back to a working phone by following the directions to boot recovery,then restore your backup. ext 4 will restore a cw backup.

the link above should have taken you to the second post. you wont need the first post directions since youre allready rooted. the directions you need to follow specifically are these:


once youve got 4ext running from those directions,restore your stock backup,and we should be back to a working phone :)

*note that the directions assume a working phone. since yours wont boot,simply ignore the adb devices and adb reboot bootloader commands. just start with your phone in fastboot and plugged in.

edit:
to answer your other question,the superuser files wont cause your phone to bootloop,and they wont fix it either. your phone is not booting becasue your rom and kernel dont match,or your rom and hboot dont match. or all 3 :p

restoring your backup with a booted recovery is your best bet to get back to a functional device at this point :)
Hey Scotty,

So this is what I got:

C:\sdk-tools>fastboot getvar all
INFOversion: 0.5
INFOversion-bootloader: 1.53.0007
INFOversion-baseband: N/A
INFOversion-cpld: None
INFOversion-microp: None
INFOversion-main: 3.28.631.1
INFOserialno: HT17WV306965
INFOimei: 357197040116975
INFOproduct: shooter_u
INFOplatform: HBOOT-8260
INFOmodelid: PG8631000
INFOcidnum: ROGER001
INFObattery-status: good
INFObattery-voltage: 5714mV
INFOpartition-layout: Generic
INFOsecurity: on
INFObuild-mode: SHIP
INFOboot-mode: FASTBOOT
INFOcommitno-bootloader: 10e127f0
INFOhbootpreupdate: 11
INFOgencheckpt: 0
all: Done!
finished. total time: 0.498s

And woohoo, its alive!
 
awsome! glad you are sorted :smokingsomb: did you restore the backup to get it working?

the other good news is that your build numper(i.e. your main version above) is available on Shipped ROMs

there are .exe and .zip files that we can run if you decide to try and do s off. in the mean time,you might just enjoy a working phone for a couple days,and if you want to try and flash other roms,just launch recovery and flash them. just make sure to read the OP thuroughly and confirm they are compatible with your new hboot.

just holler if you have more questions! :)
 
Hey Scotty,

Ya, i restored the backup to get it working :)

If i already have the version that you just helped me install, would i need to install this main version?

The main reason I actually rooted the phone was to get CyanogenMod :( and it is not in the shipped rom link you showed above :(

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2108195 this forum has cyanogen mod and it says:

md5sum: 49c62df894df91542fb1d3eaa90561b6

Do not use superwipes
Must not be on ICS HBOOT
S-OFF
4ext recovery
Wipe data, cache, and system (wipe all partitions except sdcard if on 4ext recovery) if coming from any ROM except CM10
Wipe cache and dalvik-cache, flash new 4.2.1 GAPPS and after boot wipe data on clock if flashing new version from previous installation of CM10
Wipe cache and dalvik-cache if flashing new version from previous installation of CM10.1
Flash ROM
Flash GAPPS
Reboot

so I would have to have s-off like you said, but I can only find broken links for methods that would require me to downgrade my hboot first.. Also I dont know If i have ICS hboot.. basically dont understand anything at all :S lol

If you could just help me in my journey to get CyanogenMod, that would be AWESOME!

Thanks so much for bringing the phone back from the dead man, you are awesome.

Anshuman
 
so I would have to have s-off like you said, but I can only find broken links for methods that would require me to downgrade my hboot first.. Also I dont know If i have ICS hboot.. basically dont understand anything at all :S lol

If you could just help me in my journey to get CyanogenMod, that would be AWESOME!

Thanks so much for bringing the phone back from the dead man, you are awesome.

Anshuman

unfortunately,you do have the ics hboot,and there is no way to downgrade it without being s off. none that i would recomend for just anyone,anyway.

your best bet is to become s off. info here:
http://androidforums.com/gsm-evo-3d...nfo-faq-root-s-off-gsm-evo-3d-all-hboots.html
look at the "1.53.0007" method

youve allready htcdev unlocked,so you just need to be on a 100% stock rooted rom,and run the jpbear tool. the unlimited team is very forceful about folks writing NOT guides and using their tools in other tools,as these may not get updated as they update their tools,so unfortunately it would be against their wishes to offer a detailed step by step guide. i can only give some basic advice,and try and answer any concerns you may have before hand.

if your backup was of 100% stock,all bloatware intact and no files deleted or modified,then you can prolly just use that without having to run the RUU.

i am going to go ahead and unlock the other thread,in case you have questions pertaining to s off,etc. and want to address them there. :)
 
Hey Scotty and Brian,

Thanks so much for the help! I will try to get s-off and like you said above, and install CM on the HTC.

Aren't I already a 100% on a stock rooted rom? So I can just run the jpbear tool to s-off?

Thanks bros
Anshuman
 
Hey Scotty and Brian,

Thanks so much for the help! I will try to get s-off and like you said above, and install CM on the HTC.

Aren't I already a 100% on a stock rooted rom? So I can just run the jpbear tool to s-off?

Thanks bros
Anshuman

Assuming that you hadn't deleted any bloatware or modify anything after you rooted. The problem is, is that unlimited.io won't offer support if you didn't follow the directions exactly. But most likely you will be fine with what you have!

Also, watch this video about the wire trick so you can see the timing and stuff:
http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-3d-h...c-evo-3d-using-wire-trick-juopunutbear-s-off/
 
Hello guys,

I was just wondering would I change the hboot from ICS to a different one when i accept the new hboot that the jpbear s-off method offers? Would that mean I can flash the Cyanogenmod successfully? (satisfying all the conditions that they require) ?

Thanks again!
 
Hello guys,

I was just wondering would I change the hboot from ICS to a different one when i accept the new hboot that the jpbear s-off method offers? Would that mean I can flash the Cyanogenmod successfully? (satisfying all the conditions that they require) ?

Thanks again!

I believe the juopunutbear hboot is a patched gingerbread hboot and will work with CM. In fact it's supposed to work with every rom except stock ics roms :)
 
it depends on what you were on when you ran jp bear.

if you were on GB,jpbear installed 1.49.9999,wich is patched GB

if you were on ICS,then jpbear installed 1.53.5353,wich is patched ICS.

so youre still in the same boat- youll need to double check the roms OP for hboot recomendations :)
 
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