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Root HELP!! ClockworkMod??

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Hey all. I have a HTC Thunderbolt and I randomly decided to check the phone for any updates from verizon. Well there was and the phone started d/l it. Well it's the clockworkmod 3.0.2.5.

Anyways, after the d/l the phone rebooted itself and started installing the program. And then I get an error message and it takes me to a menu of options. I have no idea what this is so I just hit reboot recovery. Phone restarts like normal. Then after about 1 min of the phone being booted and ready to use, it shuts down again and trys to reinstall the download...it's a cycle i cant figure out how to correct. PLEASE HELP!
 
I'm not sure what to think of this. :confused: sort of sounds like you didn't realize the phone is rooted. In a nutshell,power on holding volume down to get to hboot. Select recovery. When you get back to clockwork work recovery wipe cache and dalvik cache(under advanced). This should stop the looping. If it still wont boot you'll have to flash a rom or restore a backup.

Search the forum... there are a few "prollem installing updates" posts. Also read thru the stickys.

Prepair yourself for a lecture from me later. ;)
 
Lol,mayve someone can copy and paste it from one of the other 1600 "the update effed my phone" threads for me and get it out of the way :D
 
Verizon's update will try to update clockworkmod? I'm a little lost, so updating Apps will mess your stuff up? I thought the "don't perform an OTA update" warning was for the Verizon HTC updates only?!?!
 
Here is scotty's lecture

scotty85 said:
first and foremost,my obligatory "you should have known better" lecture. sorry im too tired to type it all again,however :p

scotty85 said:
im glad this worked out for you,as its possible that you could be holding a very expensive paperweight in your hands right now instead of a working phone becasue of it.

hopefully in the future youll research things a little closer,and you have learned your lesson about tryiing to accept OTA updates. clockwork recovery cannot install them,and apparently it cannot block them,as it does on other devices. if you want to install an official OTA(for whatever reason) youll need to unroot first

id also advise you that if you(also for whatever reasons) want to stay on stock,rooted firmware,you will need to keep your eyes and ears open on the forums. whenever there is an OTA,it will be turned into a flashable rom so that you can contiune running the same firmware as the nonrooted phones of the world. its the same code.... you just have to flash your updates in recovery rather than getting them OTA.

if you want to flash and forget,might want to consider running a custom rom,as they are usually built without the parts of the stock rom that check for and instigate OTAs ;)

i dont mean to pick on you,but just want to drive this point home for you and others that may be readin along now,or in future searches... DO NOT ATTEMPT TO TAKE AN OTA WHILE ROOTED

*stepping off of soapbox... lecture over :)
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please be aware that info is everywhere about this... with 3 or 4 threads on the first page of the root forum alone. im not quite sure why you posted this in general. if you are rooted and wish to stay that way,you might want to start frequenting that section,even if you dont have any interest in flasheing a bunch of custom roms.heres a hint: start with the stickys ;)

your issue could have been easily remedied by:
1)not taking the update,obviously ;)
2)having made a recent nandroid backup that you could have restored
3)failing 1 or 2,that you had at least backed up your apps with a root program like titanium backup or mybackup pro.

again,im no intending to pick on you,but you,and others reading this in a quest for info in the future,need to be aware how it could have been avoided.

*second lecture over*
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TxGoat said:
Verizon's update will try to update clockworkmod? I'm a little lost, so updating Apps will mess your stuff up? I thought the "don't perform an OTA update" warning was for the Verizon HTC updates only?!?!
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This has got me confused as well. I don't understand how "check for updates" would try to update clockwork mod recovery even if you were rooted and didn't know about it.
 
that part doesnt confuse me. all thats happeing is the updater part of the stock rom is sending the OTA to where it thinks the stock recovery is awaiting. instead the OTA finds clockwork,and at this point its alittle fuzzy. i believe the OTA must be named "update.zip" so clockwork tries to install it,but all hell breaks loose instead. this is why getting to clockwork and wiping the OTA out of the cache stops the looping.

clockwork on other devices is able to stop the OTA from trying to install it,but apparently this is not the case for us here in TB-land.

what confuses me is:
1)how does this fellow happen to have a phone and not know that its rooted?
2)if he does know its rooted,how at this point a person can miss the warnings plastered everywhere,the directions to fix in the how to sticky,or the 1600 other theads that have popped up lately with simlar titles(involving "OTA" and "problem" or "help" :eek:

i was about to bust out with some additional lecturing,but im tired... and 5am comes pretty early. :p
 
scotty85 said:
what confuses me is:
1)how does this fellow happen to have a phone and not know that its rooted?
2)if he does know its rooted,how at this point a person can miss the warnings plastered everywhere,the directions to fix in the how to sticky,or the 1600 other theads that have popped up lately with simlar titles(involving "OTA" and "problem" or "help" :eek:

i was about to bust out with some additional lecturing,but im tired... and 5am comes pretty early. :p
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1. I would assume he purchased a used phone and either didn't ask if the phone was rooted or the seller lied to him. I suppose it would be possible to get a refurb that was rooted on a stock rom and VZW's extensive inspection processed let it slip thru the cracks. Or he could have rooted after getting really drunk and not remember it, actually happened to someone I know, well kinda they didn't get full root access and I had to help them get their phone working again (thank god for history in browsers). It still seems like the superuser app would have given it away.

2. I think the reason you have to keep your lecture updated is because people do not frequent the forums. They troll and root then never come back, or they join to get some advice on rooting, root and don't think about it until they try to take an OTA and come back because they realize the OTA didn't do what they thought it would.

Add: I've linked your lecture in my sig, if you add to it I will try to update the linkage as well.
 
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