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Ice Cream Sandwhich?

Alexg314 said:
I know this phone is new and all, but I'm just curious. Will we ever get ICS in the Esteem?
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Rom-maybe eventually

official update most likely not.

Optimus M has been promised an update by LG to gingerbread for over a year now and i doubt they will ever get it.

LG just doesn't care about metroPCS phones.
 
Prime85 said:
Rom-maybe eventually

official update most likely not.

Optimus M has been promised an update by LG to gingerbread for over a year now and i doubt they will ever get it.

LG just doesn't care about metroPCS phones.
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or any of the prepaids ;)

the OS got the GB update.
 
from what i understand thoguh, ice cream sandwich is supposed to work on any hardware.. kinda like installign windows on ur pc.. sees what u have and uses it.. im sure there will be issues initially.. but if they want to push everything to it and if its what all its cracked up to be.. shouldnt be to bad getting it to the esteem or any other phone
 
You all are forgetting one major factor... This phone, like many other newly released phones during this time of the year, are actually targeted for the 'Holiday Sales'. Thus, the Esteem being one of the featured phone for this carrier... they would be smart to push ICS if it wants to keep itself competitive.
 
LatinHeat said:
You all are forgetting one major factor... This phone, like many other newly released phones during this time of the year, are actually targeted for the 'Holiday Sales'. Thus, the Esteem being one of the featured phone for this carrier... they would be smart to push ICS if it wants to keep itself competitive.
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Would be, but dont forget google always releases a signature phone with the new OS on it first and it takes awhile before it gets released for other phones.

Remember the Nexus with Gingerbread

That way most of the money from Christmas sales goes to google.

It will be manufactured by samsung
 
And it will share the horrible duct taped kernel that samsung is known for, which means that we'll have to wait for a decent source release to even consider building an image :/
 
Ok about to catch some flack for what Im about to say but Im not scared . See I like android because it allows you to got crazy with the customization,lots of price range on handsets etc but when it comes to updates they SUCK!!!. Why not do it like Apple just push the update without the carriers blocking. Carriers block it so that only the high end phones get it and the rest don't. I understand is a business and you want to earn money but by blocking a section of your user base that won't help you earn any customer loyalty. just my two cents
 
tripdoc79 said:
from what i understand thoguh, ice cream sandwich is supposed to work on any hardware.. kinda like installign windows on ur pc.. sees what u have and uses it.. im sure there will be issues initially.. but if they want to push everything to it and if its what all its cracked up to be.. shouldnt be to bad getting it to the esteem or any other phone
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Not quite, it just suppose to be able to run on most devices out already, with the exception of the very lowend phones. ICS will still have to be ported like it is now by manufacturers, carriers, and independent devs alike. If it were like windows and could just install on anything, then it wouldnt fit on alot of the cheaper phones out because it would be so bloated with drivers etc that every phone doesnt need.

Eddy120876 said:
Ok about to catch some flack for what Im about to say but Im not scared . See I like android because it allows you to got crazy with the customization,lots of price range on handsets etc but when it comes to updates they SUCK!!!. Why not do it like Apple just push the update without the carriers blocking. Carriers block it so that only the high end phones get it and the rest don't. I understand is a business and you want to earn money but by blocking a section of your user base that won't help you earn any customer loyalty. just my two cents
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Its not google/android that stops phones from getting updates, its the carriers. Apple is the only ones that make the iphone, so of course they will get OTA's.
 
Why not do it like Apple just push the update without the carriers blocking. Carriers block it so that only the high end phones get it and the rest don't. I understand is a business and you want to earn money but by blocking a section of your user base that won't help you earn any customer loyalty. just my two cents[/QUOTE said:
Its not as simple as on iOS because there is different hardware on the variety of phones. It's not a simple process for the updates first the manufacture has to port over the software to their hardware. Then the updated phone has to go through testing. Then this is passed on to the carrier where they have to put their portion of the software and again test it. You are right the higher end phones get it faster because obviously the carrier wants to have the best and latest phones possible. But hopefully like someone said this long process will be gone with ICS.
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Prime85 said:
Rom-maybe eventually

official update most likely not.

Optimus M has been promised an update by LG to gingerbread for over a year now and i doubt they will ever get it.

LG just doesn't care about metroPCS phones.
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Look what I found:

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Optimus One users will soon have the official Gingerbread goodness on their phone. Responding to one of our readers Rohan on Facebook, LG stated that the update will be available in end of May.

LG has previously made it official that all the Optimus series smartphone will get Android 2.3, but there was no timeframe announced. Thanks to today
 
reilus said:
Look what I found:

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Optimus One users will soon have the official Gingerbread goodness on their phone. Responding to one of our readers Rohan on Facebook, LG stated that the update will be available in end of May.

LG has previously made it official that all the Optimus series smartphone will get Android 2.3, but there was no timeframe announced. Thanks to todays statement, we can now expect more details about the update soon.

We expect the update to be available via LGs own update tool. Interestingly LGs Facebook account says update will be available in Android Market, which is not possible, it must have been unawareness of the person responsible for the page.
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WebCite query result

It looks like we missed the boat on the update...
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Wow 5 months after may and the optimus still doesn't have it
 
PlayfulGod said:
Not quite, it just suppose to be able to run on most devices out already, with the exception of the very lowend phones. ICS will still have to be ported like it is now by manufacturers, carriers, and independent devs alike. If it were like windows and could just install on anything, then it wouldnt fit on alot of the cheaper phones out because it would be so bloated with drivers etc that every phone doesnt need.


Its not google/android that stops phones from getting updates, its the carriers. Apple is the only ones that make the iphone, so of course they will get OTA's.
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Thats why i said google needs to be pro active and demand the telcos to move their ass or the damn fragmentation is going to become a money making pyramid scheme.
 
yahhboy said:
Its not as simple as on iOS because there is different hardware on the variety of phones. It's not a simple process for the updates first the manufacture has to port over the software to their hardware. Then the updated phone has to go through testing. Then this is passed on to the carrier where they have to put their portion of the software and again test it. You are right the higher end phones get it faster because obviously the carrier wants to have the best and latest phones possible. But hopefully like someone said this long process will be gone with ICS.
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This is why i said Google needs to sit down with the phone makers and carriers and explain what you want from then. Look Apple is only one company making a phone for all the carriers but yet you don't see apple allowing telcos to fill up their phone with bloatware etc. Thats what Google needs to do.
 
Eddy120876 said:
This is why i said Google needs to sit down with the phone makers and carriers and explain what you want from then. Look Apple is only one company making a phone for all the carriers but yet you don't see apple allowing telcos to fill up their phone with bloatware etc. Thats what Google needs to do.
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Google does do that with the phones they actually make aka the Nexus line. Otherwise its just software, open source software at that, and google doesnt control who uses it and who doesnt. Apple is closed source software and hardware so they have that control over it. If google were to do what you suggest, our community would suffer in the freedom we have to customize etc for our phones. The only thing that holds us back is the carriers. The only advantage to your suggestion I see is we wouldnt see new phones being still being released with 2.1 n 2.2 on them but instead would be on the latest android version.
 
yahhboy said:
Its not as simple as on iOS because there is different hardware on the variety of phones. It's not a simple process for the updates first the manufacture has to port over the software to their hardware. Then the updated phone has to go through testing. Then this is passed on to the carrier where they have to put their portion of the software and again test it. You are right the higher end phones get it faster because obviously the carrier wants to have the best and latest phones possible. But hopefully like someone said this long process will be gone with ICS.
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Again, ICS wont be a simple install on any phone like windows/linux installs are, if it were it would only fit on mid to highend phones with large internal storage space.

I do believe what google meant by ICS would be able to run on most devices out is it will be more efficient with resources thus not be as demanding on the hardware. ICS is also supposedly going to have hardware acceleration, which if true will make it run smother on any hardware.
 
PlayfulGod said:
Google does do that with the phones they actually make aka the Nexus line. Otherwise its just software, open source software at that, and google doesnt control who uses it and who doesnt. Apple is closed source software and hardware so they have that control over it. If google were to do what you suggest, our community would suffer in the freedom we have to customize etc for our phones. The only thing that holds us back is the carriers. The only advantage to your suggestion I see is we wouldnt see new phones being still being released with 2.1 n 2.2 on them but instead would be on the latest android version.
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Google is already dictating who gets what. The telcos what they do is apply their own skin. Apple does control their Eco system yet they have the jailbreak community and they haven't gone after then. Correct google has the Nexus phones but are we chop liver? I bet you the LG Revolution will get ice cream and, our phone is identical to theirs but our fate is on Metros hand.
 
Eddy120876 said:
Google is already dictating who gets what. The telcos what they do is apply their own skin. Apple does control their Eco system yet they have the jailbreak community and they haven't gone after then. Correct google has the Nexus phones but are we chop liver? I bet you the LG Revolution will get ice cream and, our phone is identical to theirs but our fate is on Metros hand.
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netlinkz said:
I totally agree with that statement about being in metros hands.....i concuuuur
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What and who is google dictating too? I believe that to be false because if it were true there wouldnt be a CM or AOSP for that matter, just cooked stock ROMs. Now that doesnt mean it wont come to that tho, but google has already said they would be releasing teh ICS source, so thats not dictating who gets what. ;)

I know with Verizon and Motorola, VZW pays Moto to do the OS for them as the GB leaks came from a Moto employee not a VZW one. Same goes for Cricket n LG, but thats not the case with all carriers tho.

oh and a jailbreaked iphone stil doesnt = Android, its still purdy much locked down in comparison.
 
To all that are inquiring.

ICS (ice cream sandwhich) Will be able to install on the LG Esteem with metropcs. Now, if LG will release the update, is up to them.. or if it can get pulled from the Samsung phone (can't remember the model atm).

The ICS OS and Samsung phone was just released today!

and the LG Esteem (LG revo with Verizon) has been cleared to fully support the new ICS OS.

So I'm hoping LG creates and ICS update for the Esteem or someone can get a recovery/root/install! :)

Best of luck that us Esteem users get it!
 
PlayfulGod said:
Again, ICS wont be a simple install on any phone like windows/linux installs are, if it were it would only fit on mid to highend phones with large internal storage space.

I do believe what google meant by ICS would be able to run on most devices out is it will be more efficient with resources thus not be as demanding on the hardware. ICS is also supposedly going to have hardware acceleration, which if true will make it run smother on any hardware.
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ok here my information on google dictating the shots and they will tighten control. :
Google tightening control of Android, insisting licensees abide by 'non-fragmentation clauses'? -- Engadget
 
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