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If Sprint offers Unlimited Data

RiverOfIce said:
And I am telling you that it is nearly impossible. But beleive what you want. But if sprint does go to lte, you will not be able to roam on verizon or use verizons lte service.


It is not wimax that is having the connection problems it is how the network is built out. Changing to lte will not help you. It will be the same network with a different name. It would be like buying a go cart to go deep sea fishing.

What you are saying is this.

You buy a ford focus, repaint it and calling it a bmw. You see the problem, if you change "ford/wimax" to "bmw/lte" it does not change what the network is. Your problems are physical problem with the physical towers and how the they are physically work out. You want to try to fix a physical problem with a software patch. Which is like taking a 15 year old windows pc and installing linux on it, and then claiming all your problems are solved.

If you take wimax and change it to lte, it will not change anything. You will still have network problems, it would only cost sprint 10 times more money to give you what you are getting now.

It is not wimax that is creating sprints problems, it is the fact that they are debt with no end in site.

All sprint will do is, to use your own words, is throw more money, 10 times the amount they currently are, in a money pit.

As for them at a stand still, in the last month they have turned on over 4 million people to wimax. If that is a stand still for you, great.
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I hope you aren't directing this at me?, All I am doing is repeating to you what SPRINT, along with Sarah. You can feel free to call them and tell them about fords and bmw's. They ARE a different technology. Its like comparing DSL to Cable internet, they are both super fast, but you cant take a cable internet line and shove it into a dsl modem and have it work.

If you want to make car comparisons it would be like if your transmission goes out, and the company you try buy a new one from is bankrupt and is no longer making transmissions, but you keep sending them money. Its better just to cut your losses and go with the company that is still in business.

Heck, it seems like even sprint has admitted that wimax is dead. But like I said before I AM WITH YOU on the fact that I find it very hard to believe that they could just simply send out an OTA to change from wimax to lte, but all we can do is wait.

Just google "difference between wimax and lte"
 
BrianJB said:
Just google "difference between wimax and lte"
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Wimax is about as dead as wifi is. LOL.

As for the rest. Going with cdma gave sprint as reliable network that is the mirror image of verizon right? Tmoble has is exactly like att? There is no difference? Because that is what you are saying, if sprint goes with lte, then they will be like verizon. Let me drop a little hint, it will not be.

Wimax is create to bring wireless broadband to cities, and it will be here for a long, long, long time. Cable companies like comcast will still need to use it. LTE can not replace wireless broadband for large areas, it was not designed for that. LTE is just next generation of wireless data for cellphones.

I do this for a living, I know about the two.

I work with the smartest people on the industry. They made a wimax transmitter only using parts found in 3g cell towers. I handed them the wima chip used in cellphones and told them I needed it to run lte. They handed right back and said it would not really work. The chip was not designed that way. So, you can believe customers service, I will believe the smartest people I know.

The problem's with wimax is not wimax's fault, it is how it was build out. If sprint goes to lte, it will have the same problems, only costing 10 times more. Which is why sprint signed a 2 year agreement with clear.

Now if sprint does not make you happy, then go to verizon. Please do, sprint is a dead man walking anyway.
 
RiverOfIce said:
Wimax is about as dead as wifi is. LOL.

As for the rest. Going with cdma gave sprint as reliable network that is the mirror image of verizon right? Tmoble has is exactly like att? There is no difference? Because that is what you are saying, if sprint goes with lte, then they will be like verizon. Let me drop a little hint, it will not be.

Wimax is create to bring wireless broadband to cities, and it will be here for a long, long, long time. Cable companies like comcast will still need to use it. LTE can not replace wireless broadband for large areas, it was not designed for that. LTE is just next generation of wireless data for cellphones.

I do this for a living, I know about the two.

I work with the smartest people on the industry. They made a wimax transmitter only using parts found in 3g cell towers. I handed them the wima chip used in cellphones and told them I needed it to run lte. They handed right back and said it would not really work. The chip was not designed that way. So, you can believe customers service, I will believe the smartest people I know.

The problem's with wimax is not wimax's fault, it is how it was build out. If sprint goes to lte, it will have the same problems, only costing 10 times more. Which is why sprint signed a 2 year agreement with clear.

Now if sprint does not make you happy, then go to verizon. Please do, sprint is a dead man walking anyway.
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Dude, if you are so smart then why do you pick and choose what you reply to?. It seems like you are just looking for a reason to disagree with people.

I've said in every response I've said on here that EVERYTHING I'VE READ HAS SAID THAT IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO SWITCH FROM WIMAX TO LTE. And if you could please show me where I said "Sprint is a dead man walking"? I said that clearwire is dead, please read this link, or ignore everything I've said here and just reply with your passive aggressive comments.

And someone higher up in Sprint must be telling their "advanced tech reps" that wimax is dead. Like I've said in every post, you can call them and ask for an advanced rep and find out for yourself and you can argue with them. But everything on the internet and every bit of info i've gotten from sprint completely contradicts everything you've said.

Clearwire: Bankruptcy Cannot be Discounted
 
RiverOfIce said:
I do this for a living, I know about the two.

I work with the smartest people on the industry. They made a wimax transmitter only using parts found in 3g cell towers. I handed them the wima chip used in cellphones and told them I needed it to run lte. They handed right back and said it would not really work. The chip was not designed that way. So, you can believe customers service, I will believe the smartest people I know.
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Perhaps you didn't notice where I said, " I must have had a look on my face like, "yeah right", because he followed that with, "It can be done with a firmware update."

Again (and again and again and once more for posterity), no one is arguing with you. I just said exactly what Sprint told me. Do I believe it? No. I don't believe a phone designed and equipped with hardware for WiMax can work with LTE without a conversion of some type. And even whether or not such a conversion would be feasible on a practical level. If it's not, every phone that Sprint has sold as 4G capable in the past (some sources say the new EVO 3D is both WiMax and LTE compatible. True? Don't know) will either have to be converted or replaced if their plans for WiMax go down the tubes. If not, they might find themselves on the receiving end of a class-action lawsuit.
 
Wow, you guys need to relax, I said that sprint is a dead man walking. As for robomonkey, your topic is pretty much dead. The 3g network could not handle most people tethering, which is why they price it out of range for most people.

As for the rest. Could you please not trust most stuff you read on the internet? And for the record, customer service people lie to you all the time.
 
RiverOfIce said:
Wow, you guys need to relax, I said that sprint is a dead man walking. As for robomonkey, your topic is pretty much dead. The 3g network could not handle most people tethering, which is why they price it out of range for most people.

As for the rest. Could you please not trust most stuff you read on the internet? And for the record, customer service people lie to you all the time.
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Hi pot, meet kettle. We were having a friendly convo about what sprint techs told us, and YOU came in pointing fingers at us. And you still refuse to acknowledge any points that myself & Sarah made. You made up your mind before you came into this thread what you were going to post, reguardless of if it made sense or not, which you haven't made any sense.

But just like what you said, I take everything I see on the Internet or told by a rep with a grain of salt. Especially when someone goes from asking why there would be a difference between wimax and lte, then going on to say that they are an expert in the field :rolleyes:
 
RiverOfIce said:
As for robomonkey, your topic is pretty much dead. The 3g network could not handle most people tethering, which is why they price it out of range for most people.
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So you're saying the pipe is too small to support tethering, but that same pipe provides tethering on Virgin Mobile, so the argument doesn't hold.

It's all good when you boil it down there is no technical reason why Sprint can't allow up to 2mb per second when doing wireless tethering. No one (at least not me) is asking them to open it up full speed.
 
RiverOfIce said:
Wow, you guys need to relax, I said that sprint is a dead man walking. As for robomonkey, your topic is pretty much dead. The 3g network could not handle most people tethering, which is why they price it out of range for most people.

As for the rest. Could you please not trust most stuff you read on the internet? And for the record, customer service people lie to you all the time.
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And you need to start paying attention. Neither Brian nor myself stated we believed what the sprint reps were saying. We were merely sharing what we had been told. Do you understand the difference?
 
Summary of last few days:


Sarah: a rep told me that i could flash an OTA to get LTE working. I didn't believe him.

River: you CAN'T do it. They're TOO different of technologies.

Sarah/Brian: yeah, not arguing that point, plus I said I didn't believe him.

River: you CAN'T do it. They're TOO different of technologies.

Sarah/Brian: I'm NOT against what you said. Did you even read what I wrote?

River: you CAN'T do it. Don't believe what you read on the netz and what CSRs say.

Sarah/Brian: I'm NOT arguing with you. Did you even read what I wrote?


Wonder how many more iterations this will take.
 
RoboMonkey said:
Ummmm this is going way off topic. :)
Two cents WiMax can be made to do LTE via software on Sprints side.
Google it.

Back to unlimited data for tethering ;)
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I Googled it and could not find any support in your claim that "...WiMax can be made to do LTE via software..."

Perhaps you could cite specific references ? Need not be something Sprint can do, but anybody, anywhere on the planet.
 
Either way, i dont think that WiMax will disappear within the next few years (or beyond), but will only continue to keep expanding (like it is now), so I'm not really too concerned. If they (Sprint), switches to LTE,the EVO (and others) will still be supported for quite sometime. What I'm trying to say is, If Sprint switches to LTE, we will still be provided with a continuously expanding 4G coverage area...
 
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