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install rear camera on google nexus 7?

i noticed from a google nexus 7 disassembly that it actually had a place reserved for a rear facing camera, and a place to plug one into the motherboard but they left it out for cost issues... so.. what would it take to actually install one yourself?​
 
yeah.. so far the no rear cam issue is a deal breaker for me, but if i can get a module and install it myself id go for it, other than that issue i actually like the nexus
 
I never understood the whole using a tablet as a camera deal, it looks funny to me when people use tablets as cameras, but I guess everyone has their reasons. I'm guessing it wouldn't be easy to somehow launch a rear camera when there's not one built in. That's assuming one can be wired up to the mobo. Then you'd also have to figure out how to cut a precise hole in the thin backing to the Nexus.
 
hmm.. cut a precise hole... gee, im not sure anyones ever developed a tool for making holes in objects.. someone should though.. and call the new idea a drill
 
what is the case made of?.. whether or not youd crack the shell depends largely on the type of drill bit you use and how much pressure you put on it... thats the least of the problem.. how would one actually mount the camera inside the case?.. and would an 8mp camera from one device share the connector that the nexus has on the motherboard for it?
 
i noticed from a google nexus 7 disassembly that it actually had a place reserved for a rear facing camera, and a place to plug one into the motherboard but they left it out for cost issues... so.. what would it take to actually install one yourself?​
You will need a schematic to begin with. Or a Google search in case someone already made the mod. Then you need the parts and first rate soldering skills. Only work while grounded and that goes for your soldering iron. Remember, rosin core, not acid core solder.

It might not be as easy as simply dropping a camera into a slot.

You might need to populate the PCB with components to make the camera function. Some PCBs have lots of missing parts. Or so it will seem to most people. Since this "missing" camera is not placed, the components that make the camera work are also gone.

Manufacturers do not load parts into the pick and place if they do not need to. And the ECOs, do not forget those. Some additional parts could be missing because of an engineering change required to account for a missing second camera.

Then there is the software issues. For all I know, an ASIC is programmed to allow the use of a second camera or other firmware or something added to the OS. Without these things, you might not be able to activate the camera. I am sure there are missing setup settings you will not have because you are doing something the product is not designed to do.

Ground yourself because you can damage a chip just by touching it. Never forget the ground. You might damage the component and the device still works until the now weakened IC fails at some future point.

Wires inside the chip are designed to handle just so much. If static fries part of the fine internal connections between the die and frame, the wire is too weak to handle the power that will flow through it, so bye bye Nexus 7.

If the connector you are seeing is actually for a camera in the first place. Until I see a schematic, I cannot begin to know what is going on.

Or, it could be as easy as adding the missing camera and you are good to go. Not sure the module is custom, so get a part number and you can probably find one that you can try.

Make sure you properly seal the screen and carefully observe where every part you remove is placed. Trust me, there could be lots of stuff inside the case and if you do not have a good memory, you might find reassembly difficult.

Make sure you remove the covers with care because there could be many little connections between this and that and unless you know where everything goes, you have trouble.

Good luck at any rate.
 
hmm.. cut a precise hole... gee, im not sure anyones ever developed a tool for making holes in objects.. someone should though.. and call the new idea a drill


Yes, a drill is the answer. Just do not assume a drill will create a perfect hole in the hands of someone not use to drilling holes.

Stuff happens.
 
I never understood the whole using a tablet as a camera deal, it looks funny to me when people use tablets as cameras, but I guess everyone has their reasons. I'm guessing it wouldn't be easy to somehow launch a rear camera when there's not one built in. That's assuming one can be wired up to the mobo. Then you'd also have to figure out how to cut a precise hole in the thin backing to the Nexus.

Not sure I agree. In thinking about the iPad as a camera, I am reminded on the Bell and Howell 5-inch aerial camera I used to photographed auto races. Mighty odd looking to be sure.

Then the strusty Speed Graphic. A nice large format that looks odd to some people.
 
bob... thats why i own a drill press.. all that being said, i went ahead and ordered an acer iconia... the lack of a camera, and lack of HDMI output was a bit of a deal breaker for me, and i get a 32gb iconia.. tegra 3 processor, better screen, camera, hdmi, much larger screen (so i can play some awesome games on it)... for only $100 more

decided against the asus transformer as well because it didnt offer much more besides the ability to add a keyboard dock.. and i can purchase a bluetooth keyboard for much less than that thing, and id only ever use a keyboard at home anyway
 
I've studied the motherboard and it does not look like there is a slot to plug a camera in other than what is there for the front camera. There is a physical hole and mounting screw-holes where the camera WOULD have been, but after the decision not to include it, it looks like they just nixed adding the connection to the motherboard and didn't do a re-design of the physical shape to get rid of the mounting hole.
 
I've studied the motherboard and it does not look like there is a slot to plug a camera in other than what is there for the front camera. There is a physical hole and mounting screw-holes where the camera WOULD have been, but after the decision not to include it, it looks like they just nixed adding the connection to the motherboard and didn't do a re-design of the physical shape to get rid of the mounting hole.
dont think they nixed the idea, just asus used a mobo the already had. ;)
 
well then, if theyre reusing a motherboard they already had, which is entirely possibly, then once you find out what other tablets use that motherboard youll find a perfect rear camera donor too
 
well then, if theyre reusing a motherboard they already had, which is entirely possibly, then once you find out what other tablets use that motherboard youll find a perfect rear camera donor too

Remember, hardware is only one part of the puzzle. The software in the Nexus 7 probably isn't there to control a rear camera.
 
im sure someone more programming savvy could tweak the driver for it... but, it wasnt the only deal breaker for me, lack of HDMI out was too
 
I've studied the motherboard and it does not look like there is a slot to plug a camera in other than what is there for the front camera. There is a physical hole and mounting screw-holes where the camera WOULD have been, but after the decision not to include it, it looks like they just nixed adding the connection to the motherboard and didn't do a re-design of the physical shape to get rid of the mounting hole.

I have not see it so I do not know. I can make a few educated guesses.

Modern printed circuit boards are often multi-layer boards. There can be many different layers. There are many interconnections between layers as well. I do not think they would redesign the board just to eliminate the camera. Not sure at this point what they did or did not do.

It is possible they intended to add a camera and that is why the hole is there.

Do you recall if there were pads and traces leading from the hole to other parts of the PCB?
 
im sure someone more programming savvy could tweak the driver for it... but, it wasnt the only deal breaker for me, lack of HDMI out was too


Perhaps they could. I really do not know if there is dedicated parts for the camera or not. Probably not, but I do not know.
 
im also curious if the storage in the nexus is removable, and upgradable to 32gb?

Not sure. My guess is you could add more memory, but I be a guessing' about that. We did add additional memory to the first generation Palm Pilots. Got into trouble because others wanted more memory to store more apps and some of us obliged. :D

The first memory cards were easy to upgrade.
 
To each their own I guess, but why on earth would one NEED a camera on their tablet? I would assume that most people who have tablets (especially wifi-only) would also own a smartphone (for potential hotspot connectivity) which already has a 5-8 megapixel camera.
And its not hard to Dropbox your photos from your phone to your tablet either, if you MUST have them there.
 
Definitely a good idea to just buy something else if you really want a rear camera. I like to do things myself and break stuff open as much as the next guy but I don't think I would go through the hassle of trying to get a camera installed, and as others have said, even if the physical connectors are there for it, it doesn't mean the tablet is programmed to recognize it.
 
If I really needed a rear camera I'll take out my phone. But even that I hardly ever use beyond scanning QR codes and such.

But technically there is a rear camera option. You can connect your N7 to a camera. And androids can control the shutter on some DSLRs. So I guess that works lol.

Would be curious if there are BT webcams that can be employed as well.
 
Ok, heres my two cents.
well, if theres a front camera and a back camera slot, just flip the front cam around and put it into the slot. i know its not that easy, but you could create a wire or something to connect it to the motherboard since the connector on the camera is small and prbly not able to bend around. and since the os already has drivers for that port and that camera, no building drivers required! even better, you dont need to risk destroying the mb with faulty soldering. only other thing to worry about is drilling the hole in the case.

seems fun to try, and if you get anywheere can u post at the "Cameras!" thread in the xda forums under Nexus 7 General? (Sry can't post links)
 
my 2 cents: Just buy this (or anything like it), it'll be 100x better than any phone/tablet camera. With wifi, just upload to where-ever. Or superglue it to the back of your Nexus 7, and now you have a tablet with a good camera. I have a Canon to take pictures; I've taken maybe 20 pictures with my phone in 2 years (and maybe 2 pictures with my Nexus 7).
 
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