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iPhone 5 versus Android

funpig said:
I speculate that in the future Google will probably give Nexus-like priority to its own Motorola devices in order to gain a competitive advantage over the Android market.
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If they do, then they can expect multi-billion dollar lawsuits to pour in from the other members of the Open Handset Alliance.

I cannot see Google spending billions in acquiring a hardware company without the aim of making a profit.
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Motorola Mobile was acquired for one reason only.... its IP/patent portfolio. That's where real profitability lies in 2012, unfortunately.
 
Don't see Apple lightening up on their licensing terms either. :)

Takeaway Android, Apple and Windows and your phone choices narrow rapidly.

What can you do?
 
Slug said:
If they do, then they can expect multi-billion dollar lawsuits to pour in from the other members of the Open Handset Alliance.

Motorola Mobile was acquired for one reason only.... its IP/patent portfolio. That's where real profitability lies in 2012, unfortunately.
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Doesn't Google own Nexus? Does Google not have the freedom/ability to choose which company to manufacture a Nexus product (eg HTC, Samsung, ASUS)? If so, what is to stop them from using Motorola exclusively to manufacture Nexus in the future?
 
funpig said:
Doesn't Google own Nexus? Does Google not have the freedom/ability to choose which company to manufacture a Nexus product (eg HTC, Samsung, ASUS)? If so, what is to stop them from using Motorola exclusively to manufacture Nexus in the future?
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Nexus products go out for a fair bid.

Android is possible because the alliance of competitors works.

If Google changes the game, even if they could by the letter of their agreement, the others would see it as Google holding out on them, and the alliance would crumble.

At the onset of acquisition talks, other makers got worried, their shareholders got worried. Samsung immediately fired off a statement that they would do their own os if the playing field wasn't even.

Google responded that they would keep the Motorola subsidiary at arm's length and that the playing field would not be disrupted.
 
chanchan05 said:
Don't generalize. I've encountered several Apple boys so much blinded by the brand that they actually hate on anything not apple.
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Stop quoting me and telling me what to do, your posts stopped making sense a long time ago.. (fyi you tend to quote to initiate a reason to type a rant that often times doesn't relate to op or quoted poster's point but does relate to discussion broadly)
 
OfTheDamned said:
Just watched the announcement aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnd not impressed. The camera looks nice (although the excitement over panorama was a little sad), but other that it is an Android phone running iOs with a bunch of features we already saw at Google I/O.
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I love how cavalier you are in classifying an entire platform to simply hardware running iOS (even calling it a wonderful Android!), which are what smartphones essentially are. Imagine the sheer amount of (ignorant) people who call our Androids iPhones running Android. Except they don't even classify Android hardware design on the same level as iPhones. Food for thought.
 
EarlyMon said:
Nexus products go out for a fair bid.

Android is possible because the alliance of competitors works.

If Google changes the game, even if they could by the letter of their agreement, the others would see it as Google holding out on them, and the alliance would crumble.

At the onset of acquisition talks, other makers got worried, their shareholders got worried. Samsung immediately fired off a statement that they would do their own os if the playing field wasn't even.

Google responded that they would keep the Motorola subsidiary at arm's length and that the playing field would not be disrupted.
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In my opinion, Samsung and other makers' concern is well justified. And Google's immediate response was predictable. Google needs the other makers in the short term. However, I believe Google's long term plans are to try and take the dominant position in the hardware market, yes over apple and as a result over other android makers. Google owns and controls the Nexus brand; google gets to decide what to do with Nexus. There is no obligation for google to rotate nexus fairly amongst it partners. At this point, it is in their best interest to put Nexus out for bid. Google cannot afford to put out an inferior nexus product while they continue to build the nexus brand. So it makes sense to put it out for bid and award the nexus contract to the best maker at the lowest price in order to grab market share from apple and amazon and to continue to build the nexus reputation in the short term. But as the nexus brand continues to grow and as Motorola continues to develop, if all things are equal or close, it will be in Google's interest to let Motorola build google's halo devices. They paid 12 billion to get their feet firmly into the hardware business and it makes no sense for them to strive for mediocrity in their hardware or to give away their future business opportunities to its so-called partners. This is just my speculation and we will just have to wait and see what happens over the next few years.
 
http://newyork.newsday.com/business/technology/iphone-5-features-set-it-apart-in-crowded-smartphone-market-1.3998283

Lol what features? I've had them all already.
 
WhoKnowsWhat said:
Don't know if I want to get an Android when Google is starting to behave like Microsoft.

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I'd be pretty ticked off too if one of my Open Handset Alliance members decided to make a handset that featured an OS that rips off my app architecture, too.

The Aliyun OS can run both Android apps, and so-called "cloud apps", which are Web-based and stored on remote company servers that can also leverage services from Alibaba's own e-commerce business.
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Google doesn't threaten to revoke Samsung's or HTC's licencing because they make Windows phones. Although it will be interesting to see what happens if Sammy follows through with making their own OS.
 
adaaaam said:
I love how cavalier you are in classifying an entire platform to simply hardware running iOS (even calling it a wonderful Android!), which are what smartphones essentially are. Imagine the sheer amount of (ignorant) people who call our Androids iPhones running Android. Except they don't even classify Android hardware design on the same level as iPhones. Food for thought.
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The reason I described it the way I did has to do with my opinion that the whole announcement was a rerun. There was an overwhelming (or underwhelming as the case may be) feeling of "been there, done that". I think you could have put any phone made in the last two years, by other manufacturers, in the place of the i5 and it wouldn't have affected what was going on in any way.

The reason I made the comment that I did, and this is apparent by reading any other comment I've made on the subject, is that I actually expected them to do something big. I expected more from a company like Apple. Personally, I think they let everyone down. They'll obviously sell a ton of them, but introducing old features and design as new is a sad thing. It puts them back where so many people already claimed them to be and that isn't good for the iPhone, Apple, Android or anyone else.

People will hype it, like they have in the past, bloggers will rave about it, those that don't know any better (some that do), and people will buy it. By doing things part way and introducing nothing new are they really doing anything note worthy though? Is this the legacy Steve Jobs would been proud of? The man went ballistic and wanted to go "thermo nuclear" because of Android and they have now resorted to copying it with features and design. Meanwhile they take legal action against anyone and everyone for things that, in many cases, they should never have patents on in the first place. Apple has become that guy in the comment section of a blog that yells "First!", even though he is actually 4th or 5th, adding nothing to the discussion in any way. I am disgusted by it as much as I am saddened by it.
 
GandalfTehGray said:
http://newyork.newsday.com/business/technology/iphone-5-features-set-it-apart-in-crowded-smartphone-market-1.3998283

Lol what features? I've had them all already.
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Android is what you want...
Apple is what they want. Notice the "We". They know what you should have and anything else, well...you don't know what you want until "WE" tell you.

"We've worked on that for a few years to come to what we think is the optimal size to give you more screen, but something that is super comfortable, easy to use and is thin and light and fits in your pocket," said Phil Schiller, Apple senior vice president for marketing. "We think this is the ideal size"

They sound like a bunch of WeeWees.
 
mogelijk said:
I think he is referring to the Apple lawsuit, and in that case you have to admit a resemblance of the Nexus S and the Tab. So, yes, it bothered me to because more recent phone like the Galaxy Nexus and S series phones look nothing like Apples but I attribute it to his being such a fanboi he's never really looked at a non-Apple phone. It would explain much of his article.
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I really don't see the S in any way resembling an Iphone. Nor should anyone, a quick flip to the back side or paying attention to the front you can easily tell the difference. Plus the 1 button vs many
 
I agree. However, apples patent on the rectangle says otherwise.


Nobody I know has bought or even picked up a Samsung device and thought it was an iPhone. That lawsuit was ludicrous.
 
If Apple wants to argue that the Galaxy S line resembles the iPhone, what do they have to say about the new iPod Nano's resemblance to the Lumia?

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