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iPhone to Evo - help me like it?

ok so i got the MSL of the evo and then updated the PLR to one i downloaded off forums using cdma workshop. now i've got full bars and no battery issues. yay!

Hey beeperdoo,

Would you give us a tutorial on how you changed the PRL on your EVO? How you got the MSL, where you got the PRL from (I found a list but had no idea which PRL to choose or even it it was a good list), how you set it, and anything else that might help...Thanks in advance.

I also like notifications that don't require hands on, maybe you could post a second tutorial explaining how you have resolved that and how it works as you have it set up...Thanks again.

I know this is asking a lot but your thread hit a couple of issues I have and actually inspired me to register for this forum and this is my first post!
 
\as for the signal issue, i changed the preferred roaming list settings so now my phone just stays on verizon 100% of the time and doesn't bother looking for a sprint signal. lol. it roams for free on verizon, so why not....

Careful, if you read the fine print in the terms of your contract, Sprint can terminate your contract for excessive roaming for months on end. It costs them $$ for your usage outside of their network, and if it gets to a point where it costs them more to keep you than what you're paying in, they will let you go. My sprint rep told me you'll usually get a warning letter after a few consecutive months of roaming passed their data limits, they typically won't terminate your contract on the spot at first.
 
Careful, if you read the fine print in the terms of your contract, Sprint can terminate your contract for excessive roaming for months on end. It costs them $$ for your usage outside of their network, and if it gets to a point where it costs them more to keep you than what you're paying in, they will let you go. My sprint rep told me you'll usually get a warning letter after a few consecutive months of roaming passed their data limits, they typically won't terminate your contract on the spot at first.

yeah i just heard about the limits. pretty crappy. here i thought data was unlimited whether on sprint OR roaming. bah.

i'm going to call them this weekend and tell them i have to cancel service because there's no sprint service in my house and i'd be continually going over the alloted 300mb of data a month.
 
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i ended up trying out handcent to fix the notification issue with txt messages. it's pretty fantastic, and now i get a pop-up that wakes up the screen and displays the actual txt message. very handy, just what i wanted.

as for the signal issue, i changed the preferred roaming list settings so now my phone just stays on verizon 100% of the time and doesn't bother looking for a sprint signal. lol. it roams for free on verizon, so why not....

nice.. :D
 
I switched from Alltel (basically VZW towers) to Sprint specifically for the EVO. Sprint service in my small town is surprisingly great, I've found only 1 rd where i get no signal. But if my signal was anything but great at my home or work, I would've switched back regardless of how much I liked the phone. AT&T by far has the worst signal in my town (and trust me, its awful), but if it wasnt for that id have prolly purchased an iPhone long ago.
 
Having owned both an iPhone 3G and a 3Gs, I have to say I was looking forward to the release of the i4. However, what I saw on release day did not impress me. I saw no benefit to the i4 over the 3Gs.

That being said, I tried out the Captivate for a couple of weeks. After a learning curve with the Android opsys, I can say that any Android based phone allows you to do way more than iTunes and an iPhone ever will; given Apple's "walled garden" approach to user capabilities. Don't get me wrong, the whole Apple marketing and ease of use is a blessing to people who want it just to "work", hence its limited capabilites for expansion.

The Captivate (and the Galaxy S line as a whole) has known GPS issues, which may or not be fixed with the 2.2 Froyo update. I experienced this first hand; the device would not lock on, and if it did would often show me traveling on a road parallel to the actual one I was on! I was happy in general with the phone, but given Samsung's spotty reputation for product support, I was not going to wait past my 30 day trial period and be stuck in a 2 year contract with the hopes that Samsung would fix the issue.

I finally ended up with an Evo 4G, and I have to tell you: simply amazing. This is a handheld computer that makes phone calls also! There are a ton of great apps for Androids; and if you "root" the phone, it opens up a whole new world to you in regards to what you can do with the device. Sprint service is cheaper; I am getting the same unlimited data and text, with unlimited minutes (vs. 900 on AT&T) for 10 bucks cheaper a month. Like you, I was also concerned with their coverage. Sprint roams on Verizon, so coverage has not been an issue thus far. UPDATE: Sprint Customer Service sent me an Airvana to use at home for free, with no monthly cost.

Our plans are broken down with 6 EVOs as follows: 3 lines on the Everything Data Family - with Any Mobile, Anytime plan including 4G is $189.99 a month, and shares 3000 minutes. 3 more lines on the Simply Everything plan including 4G at $99.99 a month each, which is unlimited voice, data and text. This totals $489.96 a month before taxes.

A comparable program on AT&T would be broken down cost wise as follows: 3 lines sharing only 2100 minutes ($119.98) plus data for all 3 (which is NOT unlimited) is $25 for data per line, and $30 for 3 lines of unlimited text = $224.98. 3 more lines with unlimited talk, plus (limited) data & (unlimited) text is $114.99 per line for a total of $344.97. The 6 lines on AT&T would total $569.95 before taxes.

Differences: 900 minutes less talk time and limited data on the family plan for $34.99 more on AT&T vs. Sprint.

Limited data on the "unlimited" individual lines on AT&T vs. Sprint, at a cost of $45.00 more on per month AT&T.

Whatever you choose, I hope you are happy with it. I hope my experiences give you a little more information to make an informed decision.
 
Yeah Smoovc. Sprint is much cheaper.

I'm grandfathered at AT&T, so i have unlimited data.. but even so, it works out like this for comparable packages:

AT&T
$40 cheapest calling plan
$30 iphone data add-on
$20 unlimited txt messages
$10 GPS navigation
=$100

Sprint
$70 cheapest calling plan
$10 data add-on for Evo
$0 unlimited txt messages (included)
$0 GPS navigation (included)
=$80

Plus I got a AAA discount of 25% through Sprint. The $10 Evo add-on doesn't count in the discount, but it's still 25% off $70, or $17.50 off my bill a month. So really Sprint only costs $62.50 for the same things I'm getting for $100 from AT&T.

(Please note, I don't actually pay for GPS navigation or unlimited texting from AT&T. I don't bother with navigation and use Instant Messaging app for sending SMS... but it's SO SO nice to have the option of both with Sprint.. and not have to use some lame workaround to avoid paying another $20 a month)

I really hope they give me an Airave for free! If so, I'll keep this phone.
 
$100 to buy it plus an extra $5 a month just to make your phone work? They should offer it for free if they want to keep their customers. I had problems with AT&T service at home, which is one of two main reasons why I left the iPhone for the EVO in the first place.

They do offer it for free. You need to call retentions and tell them that you have no signal in your house and they will send out the new Airave that you can't buy yet for free, and they will also waive the monthly fee. I just got mine yesterday and I now am at max bars all over the house and even get full bars anywhere on the property.
 
Yeah Smoovc. Sprint is much cheaper.

I'm grandfathered at AT&T, so i have unlimited data.. but even so, it works out like this for comparable packages:

AT&T
$40 cheapest calling plan
$30 iphone data add-on
$20 unlimited txt messages
$10 GPS navigation
=$100

Sprint
$70 cheapest calling plan
$10 data add-on for Evo
$0 unlimited txt messages (included)
$0 GPS navigation (included)
=$80

Plus I got a AAA discount of 25% through Sprint. The $10 Evo add-on doesn't count in the discount, but it's still 25% off $70, or $17.50 off my bill a month. So really Sprint only costs $62.50 for the same things I'm getting for $100 from AT&T.

(Please note, I don't actually pay for GPS navigation or unlimited texting from AT&T. I don't bother with navigation and use Instant Messaging app for sending SMS... but it's SO SO nice to have the option of both with Sprint.. and not have to use some lame workaround to avoid paying another $20 a month)

I really hope they give me an Airave for free! If so, I'll keep this phone.


I just made the switch from an iPhone on AT&T to an Evo on Sprint as well. I also have terrible service in my apartment, but called Sprint CS and I am getting my Airave (with the fees waived) tomorrow now. I'll let you guys (and girls) know how it turns out. I do have a question though...how did you get a 25% discount with AAA. I thought the discount with AAA was only 5% per month?
 
I just switched to Sprint and the EVO from the iPhone as well and it's like night and day. I actually prefer Android's notification system because it's so well more fleshed out than the iPhone's "you get 'em once at a time or not at all" crappy system. I also love how much more customizable the platform as a whole is.

Question, though, what is this Airave thing and how can I get one?
 
I just switched to Sprint and the EVO from the iPhone as well and it's like night and day. I actually prefer Android's notification system because it's so well more fleshed out than the iPhone's "you get 'em once at a time or not at all" crappy system. I also love how much more customizable the platform as a whole is.

Question, though, what is this Airave thing and how can I get one?

The Airave is a device that uses your broadband internet service to provide a VOIP backbone to Sprint's service. Think of it like having a miniature cell phone tower in your house that uses your existing internet service to make the calls with. Also, b/c it uses your own internet, any calls you make while connected through the Airave are free. I've been using mine for a little while now, and while it does work great, I wonder if it should still be better. I thought that it would give me full bars everywhere in my apartment (a modest sized two-bedroom), but it really only gives me a full signal on the side of the apartment that the Airave is on. It is still pretty good though; I went from having no signal 92% of the time down to only 8% (according to my battery stats).

To get one, just call Sprint customer service and tell them you're thinking about canceling. When they ask why, tell them that you have great service pretty much everywhere, except for in your house where you get no service and a lot of dropped/missed calls. Hopefully they'll waive the fees for you like they did for me.
 
UPDATE: i got a free airave and so have officially switched to Sprint! i ported my number from the iphone and everything.

after a solid month with the evo... I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT. NO GOING BACK. IT'S AMAZING.

thanks everyone here for helping me make the transition. this forum rocks!
 
UPDATE: i got a free airave and so have officially switched to Sprint! i ported my number from the iphone and everything.

after a solid month with the evo... I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT. NO GOING BACK. IT'S AMAZING.

thanks everyone here for helping me make the transition. this forum rocks!

damn... this place is getting to crowded!

android sucks....
iphone has higher resolution screen.. hurry and get your free bumper cover.

:rolleyes:

btw.. glad you found a good match :)
 
UPDATE: i got a free airave and so have officially switched to Sprint! i ported my number from the iphone and everything.

after a solid month with the evo... I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT. NO GOING BACK. IT'S AMAZING.

thanks everyone here for helping me make the transition. this forum rocks!

I just read this thread and it's great to hear you love the service and phone finally. I made the transition from T-Mobile (i know...) to Sprint and from a G1 to an Evo 4G and I am loving it as well. I like seeing people have positive notes about the Evo 4G and Sprint because it just strengthens my decision as well.

I do have a question...how did you get a 25% discount with AAA? Are you just a member or are they your employer?
 
Man I'm gonna have to call Sprint and see if I can't get one of those Airaves for free. I have zero bars in my house. That's basically the only thing I hate about this phone and Sprint, everything else I love.
 
Since I'm also newish to Android, can you explain how a new messaging program like Handcent works to replace the stock app? Am I going to be getting duplicates (and duplicate notifications) of every SMS/MMS?


No, you can turn off your notifications on the stock messaging app through settings.
 
how did you get a 25% discount with AAA. I thought the discount with AAA was only 5% per month?

The girl at the Sprint kiosk in the mall totally hooked me up. I didn't ask her to do it either. I just told her that I'm a AAA member and is there a discount with that.. and she said, "Yes there's a AAA discount. I'll put it in for you." I asked her if she needs to see my AAA card and she said no. Next thing I know, I have a 25% EMPLOYEE AAA discount.

However, there's a sweet 23% discount through StudentRate right now. So if anyone had an EDU email address at their disposal, they're eligible. It can even be a friends. I just bought one for my boyfriend through StudentRate because I'm in law school.
 
Man I'm gonna have to call Sprint and see if I can't get one of those Airaves for free. I have zero bars in my house. That's basically the only thing I hate about this phone and Sprint, everything else I love.

Call Sprint Customer Service and tell him that your phone doesn't get service at your house. Ask if you can be switched to Tech Support so they can help you to fix it..since you should be getting bars at your location per Sprint's coverage map.

The CS rep should tell you there's nothing tech support can do to fix the bar issue, but you can get a complementary Airave. CS rep will then switch you over to Retentions who will set it up for you and in 3 days you'll have one at your door, no charge, and no monthly fee.

That's how it worked for me and I was a fairly new customer.
 
yeah, i was afraid that'd be my only option :(

it sucks because i love this phone now. gah, why is sprint service so crappy! and i thought at&t was bad...

I recommend that people choose their service provider first, and their phone second.

Everywhere I go is lit up with Sprint service...and I get 4G in many of those places as well. In addition, the mobile to any mobile makes their plans cheaper than all other plans that would work for me.

After choosing Sprint, I had to decide between the Evo and the Epic. That took about 2-3 days total, but could have been done in about 20 minutes of playing wtih them side-by-side.

EVO 4G won...
 
Just read the entire thread and I think it is great that we help people realize the power of Android. Have fun with your Evo beeperdoo.
 
With regret, I returned my Evo today and am keeping the iPhone 3gs for another 6 months or so. I really wanted to love the Evo - and did love a lot about it. It's just not there compared to the iPhone. I believe Evo and like android products win in the long run (just as Windows did), but they are a revisions or two away.

Loved:
* The physical device - nice, big screen; great feel in the hand; quality build; just a good design.
* The way the OS and HTCSense work. Improved design and flexibility vs the iPhone. But clearly not as polished and much more work to user figure out.
* camera - very good. Don't know how it compares to the iPhone 4, but blows away photos and video on the 3gs.
* voice commands: especially Vlingo and it's integration with navigation and other applications.

Hated:
* battery life - yes, you can improve it by working hard and turning off all the stuff that makes the Evo special; but the operating system should take care of that.
* applications - a number of applications that I use a lot are simply not there - like netflix, skype, WSJ... , and others like Facebook are just not as good an implementation (yet).
* synchronization calendar and contacts (with Outlook) - too gmail dependent (with some functions not supported, like reminders which I use a lot). Did not try the HTC Sync. However, just converted to gmail and this could become a benefit over time.

Indifferent:
* 4G - Live in Austin, so we have 4G most places (except where I live in the hill country, but that was no big deal with wi-fi). It is as fast as advertised, but I found it did not make much of a difference on a small-screen device. However, did not use for video conferring since nobody else uses the only application that works on the Evo.
* Sprint - actually this is a compliment because I had low expectations (based on 10-yr-old experience).

Conclusion: I expect to convert to whatever replaces the Evo in six months or so. Android 3+, HTCSense.com, native video conferring, upgraded nav system, more 4g coverage, fixing the annoyances & polish of Android, choice of Spring/Verizon/Other (need a carrier that has both a great Android and iPhone - my kids will switch from the iPhone, but my wife will never - she is the character in the cartoon "... it prints money ... I don't care, I want an iPhone 4"... I really liked the EVO, but not enough to keep it yet.
 
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