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Help Is 4GB enough?

4GB of internal storage will be enough. There's an app called DiskUsage that will tell you how much you have available and what you're taking up for apps. On my DX, bloat and some system apks were listed, too. I used 383 MB of what looks like appox 2.5 GB free.

Here's a screenie of how it looks. If you're space conscious, I'd recommend it. After I saw this, I stopped moving apps to SD card and forced all apps on my SD card back to phone. I just got lazy and didn't uninstall this app.

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I was going to say something like that as well. Using just CM7 on the device, it appears the Android OS takes up more than half of that 1gb of memory the EVO has, leaving me with 450mb or so for apps. I can't remember what is was with Sense and all of the stock stuff on it, but it was somewhere around 200mb free (anyone like to confirm this).

Even though 1gb is a huge improvement compared to what the EVO had to offer, I still find it "disturbing" that the UI and OS use 75% of the ROM on a device that has 4gb of space...Assuming the OS takes 500mb, that puts Sense (and maybe other added bloatware) at 2.5gb over the current 2-300mb...I just don't see how there can be that many improvements with the UI to constitute that much space, but I'm also not a programmer either so I don't know every little thing that goes on behind the scenes with this.
 
Slightly off topic, but why the hedoubletoothpics can't most google apps be moved to SD?
1. You're allowed to say that word. Just don't swear just to swear. I.e.
"Damn, I'm excited for this phone!" - acceptable
"I'm so _____ing stoked for this _______ing ____ beast of a _____ phone! ____!" - overkill
2. I'm actually not sure as to why Google apps aren't able to be moved to SD. I've never really messed with moving stuff between my phone and my SD card. Never found the need, but I have found the need to upgrade this slow POS.
 
1. You're allowed to say that word. Just don't swear just to swear. I.e.
"Damn, I'm excited for this phone!" - acceptable
"I'm so _____ing stoked for this _______ing ____ beast of a _____ phone! ____!" - overkill
2. I'm actually not sure as to why Google apps aren't able to be moved to SD. I've never really messed with moving stuff between my phone and my SD card. Never found the need, but I have found the need to upgrade this slow POS.

I'm pretty sure Google and carrier apps can't be moved because then if you take out the SD, you could cripple the entire app (or at least some function of it). Google doesn't want user stupidity to cause people to think their product is inferior, and carriers thought they were important enough to include (and not let you remove), so they aren't going to let you move them for similar reasons.
 
Also, the vast majority of SD cards are slower than then internal flash storages of the phone. Imagine trying to run maps from SD, for example. If you could put parts of the OS on the SD card, you would be slowing down the OS in some ways. Then people would complain that the OS is laggy. et cetera
 
Also, the vast majority of SD cards are slower than then internal flash storages of the phone. Imagine trying to run maps from SD, for example. If you could put parts of the OS on the SD card, you would be slowing down the OS in some ways. Then people would complain that the OS is laggy. et cetera

That's not lagging, that would be considered loading.
 
OK, so I got the answer on the SGS2 memory layout from Slug, a proud new owner. :)

The additional partition on that 16GB internal storage he has: it's /sdcard - and the physical SD card is accessed as /sdcard/external.

I'll see how the SGS2 partitioning stacks up, post in a relevant thread if I find anything - probably the one comparing the 3 dual core phones.

In any case - the idea that phones with arbitrarily large internal memory is there to use however - not true so much.
 
Right, but in the circumstance of the typical user, it would probably be called lag

Agreed. My niece said the same thing of her music and pics not coming up as fast as she liked and blamed it on lag on her Inspire. I gave her my 16GB class 10 and she said there was very little hesitation any more and told her that it wasn't lag, just a bottleneck.
 
In any case - the idea that phones with arbitrarily large internal memory is there to use however - not true so much.

If only :( Ah well. The 1GB available to me with a 32GB class ten uSD is good enough for me till they start making standards for class 10 64GB and above.
 
Ok so how do we verify the 4GB of ROM?

Running DiskUseage it appears my ROM capacity is only 1175 MB. I hope I'm just viewing this incorrectly.
 
Ok so how do we verify the 4GB of ROM?

Running DiskUseage it appears my ROM capacity is only 1175 MB. I hope I'm just viewing this incorrectly.

You're viewing a single partition. I'm unfamiliar with that tool, but look to see if you can get reports for multiple partitions. Even then, they won't add up to 4 GB, some things the tools can't see.
 
This program breaks it down to
App Storage 1175 MB
/mnt/sdcard 7572 MB
/vendor/firmware/misc 199 MB

So my thoughts are no matter how they partitioned the "drive" only 1.1 GB is for storing apps. Still a lot, though.
 
This program breaks it down to
App Storage 1175 MB
/mnt/sdcard 7572 MB
/vendor/firmware/misc 199 MB

So my thoughts are no matter how they partitioned the "drive" only 1.1 GB is for storing apps. Still a lot, though.

And that matches our expectation of 1 GB for apps from before.
 
I thought this phone had 4gb of internal storage? I have 1gb, does the os and pre-installed apps really take up 3gb of space?
 
1.1 GB is reserved for apps (including Sprint/HTC installed apps). 1.1 GB is apparently available, somewhere (according to AndroXplorer), and the rest is system/OS.

I haven't found where this 1.1 GB that is just available, somewhere...
 
1.1 GB is reserved for apps (including Sprint/HTC installed apps). 1.1 GB is apparently available, somewhere (according to AndroXplorer), and the rest is system/OS.

I haven't found where this 1.1 GB that is just available, somewhere...

Wow that's crazy, thanks
 
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