nb_mitch
Android Enthusiast
Well my wife would have it, if this R2-D2 rumor was true and she isn't even looking for a phone 
Motorola to launch special r2-d2 edition
Motorola to launch special r2-d2 edition
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Its the same phone
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twistedlim
Android Expert
It does not really look like any significant upgrade from my rooted droid other than the keypad? I think these are going to be dead at the store. Even unrooted the gain is pretty minimal unless you really have to have basically the same phone you had before (droid).
Old Man
Android Enthusiast
Better processor, better UI, more memory, Android 2.2 and support for further updates, etc. I agree that those that have rooted and tweaked their Droids may not see much reason to change, but the reality is that while these people may represent a larger and very active segment of the members of forums like this, they represent a small percentage of the overall buyers. For people that don't mod their phones or that want to move from other phones to an Android phone with a physical keyboard, the Droid 2 definitely seems a significant step forward from the Droid. Since it is an evolutionary product it probably won't sell like the Incredible or X, but there's a lot of the Droid and Droid X in the Droid 2 so the development costs were probably much lower and it probably doesn't need to sell in anything like those quantities to be profitable.
I simply don't think that this phone is aimed at getting Droid 1 users to upgrade. I think it's aimed at people who held off on getting a Droid 1 because of the keyboard and/or the processor that's behind the times.
Incidentally, those are the only two reasons I haven't rushed out to buy a Droid 1, so I'm probably going to get this at launch.
Incidentally, those are the only two reasons I haven't rushed out to buy a Droid 1, so I'm probably going to get this at launch.
Wolfedude88
Android Expert
I would have to disagree, I don't think most people even cared about the processor when it was released. Also the Droid was the faster Android phone out at the time.
And now it's not. The Droid 1 was the most powerful Android on the market for about two months before the Nexus One came out, and now the market is almost saturated with gigahertz-processor phones. The Droid was incredibly popular, and Verizon obviously wants to keep selling them, but in order to do that the phone needs to keep up with the Joneses.
Wolfedude88
Android Expert
I agree, I guess your first post just threw me off. You said people held off because of the processor. I was just stating that it was the fasting Android phone about a year ago when it first came out. It was plenty fast at the time, if people held off then, why not hold off now when a newer faster phone will come out? There will always be the next best thing.
Also has anyone else heard they are letting Droid 1 users upgrade early? Interesting if true.
luvjones305
Newbie
its the same phone looks the same just different keyboard an internal i still have the first one. i don't think ill be upgrading to a droid 2 naw i rather wait till christmas time to see whats coming out. i hope a android phone with a full qwerty keyboard front facing camera 8megapixel plus dual flash 4.3 inch display 1ghz processor an i hope its a htc phone running android 3.0 gingerbread
Old Man
Android Enthusiast
I have a feeling that a 1GHz processor will be obsolete by the time Verizon offers something with all the other items listed.
I also have to wonder how many people will buy high end 3G phones after LTE is rolled out. It will apparently be some time before LTE phones are available, so do you buy a new phone like that noted here in November or December or do you wait until LTE phones start appearing? Pure conjecture but I can see the possibility of no new upper tier smartphones being introduced between the time LTE is officially launched and when LTE phones become available.
XMAS '12 unless the Mayans are right...
luvjones305
Newbie
hmmm that a good point but i read an article that metropcs will skip 3g to LTE later this year an they already have phones in the making with samsung i think LTE is going to be the next big thing.
twistedlim
Android Expert
Agreed Old Man, agreed...and it will not sell near what the X and the Dinc are doing.
X2
Plus, 2.2 Froyo out of the box (but, X will be getting that OTA VERY soon).
I am also confused on which phone to purchase... I love keyboards, but the 4.3'' screen and the higher specs (camera at least) have me very torn
JoeMustang
Member
Am I the only one that wants a Faster phone? Everyone says it is not worth it to upgrade, it's the same phone... I must be the only one who thinks the D1 is slow as F*** even over clocked and running Froyo. I can't wait for the faster processor and more memory upgrade. That alone has me sold. I hope the D2 has better hardware though... Clicking screen, broken power/volume buttons is getting very old...
Just for the record. More megapixles has nothing to do with the quality of the camera. 5 is more than enough. the Marketers are doing their jobs if you are buying into all that B.S
Dx is nice too, but I think it is too big but all depends on each person. If they came out with a 4inch screen like the Samsung vibrant, I would be sold on that, awesome phone by the way. I wouldn't buy the Dx until Froyo is offered on it though. I went to try it out in the store and I thought it was very laggy. Froyo should fix that right up.
Just for the record. More megapixles has nothing to do with the quality of the camera. 5 is more than enough. the Marketers are doing their jobs if you are buying into all that B.S
Dx is nice too, but I think it is too big but all depends on each person. If they came out with a 4inch screen like the Samsung vibrant, I would be sold on that, awesome phone by the way. I wouldn't buy the Dx until Froyo is offered on it though. I went to try it out in the store and I thought it was very laggy. Froyo should fix that right up.
Wolfedude88
Android Expert
Well I hate to be the bring the bad news but I don't think this phone will be a lot faster than the original Droid overclocked on Froyo.
I recently looked into the Droid X after all the advertising and decided I didn't like it (love my Droid and feel it's the better phone). So I was hopeful that the Droid 2 would be less disappointing.
First thing I found some photo's of the Droid 2. I don't think I like that they got rid of the D-Pad. Honestly, with few exceptions, the D-Pad is the one thing I use most on the keyboard... it's really useful, especially for games. Granted the D-pad needs improvement just like the rest of the keyboard on the Droid... but I wish they hadn't scrapped it.
I don't think the Droid is slow, (haven't had any problem yet with games, be they ports, emus, etc.) and I'm running stock 2.1. I really doubt Droid 2 is much of an improvement over the Droid in terms of hardware from what little I've seen thus far, but hey I'm willing to withhold final judgment on that one.
Really disappointed that it'll have blur crap... I just want Android, and nothing covering it up. One thing I wonder though, is if it'll have the encrypted boot loader like the X. If it does, that'll turn me off to it even more.
I guess the overall impression I'm getting from the Droid 2 is that it's a kinda half-assed pseudo-upgrade for the Droid.
First thing I found some photo's of the Droid 2. I don't think I like that they got rid of the D-Pad. Honestly, with few exceptions, the D-Pad is the one thing I use most on the keyboard... it's really useful, especially for games. Granted the D-pad needs improvement just like the rest of the keyboard on the Droid... but I wish they hadn't scrapped it.
I don't think the Droid is slow, (haven't had any problem yet with games, be they ports, emus, etc.) and I'm running stock 2.1. I really doubt Droid 2 is much of an improvement over the Droid in terms of hardware from what little I've seen thus far, but hey I'm willing to withhold final judgment on that one.
Really disappointed that it'll have blur crap... I just want Android, and nothing covering it up. One thing I wonder though, is if it'll have the encrypted boot loader like the X. If it does, that'll turn me off to it even more.
I guess the overall impression I'm getting from the Droid 2 is that it's a kinda half-assed pseudo-upgrade for the Droid.
xjestersdeadx
Well-Known Member
Blur screws this up in a bad way. You might be upgrading some specs on the phone, but your DOWNGRADING what you can really do with your Droid choice wise. Froyo is not Android 1.5. There is NO reason to force users to have Blur (or Sense) for that matter.
It's like forcing a "better" launcher from the market and saying you can't remove it. Why not just have an option in the menu that says "Moto Skin On/OFF". I get the feeling that some Motorola guy in a suit is sitting in a meeting going, "yeh,but,like, really, we already spent $500,000 on developing blur, we can't just throw it away now!"
You can BET...and I'll take your wagers NOW....that the bootloader is locked down. Milestone did it, X did it, and Droid 2 will do it. If you like having your Froyo the way you want it, you'll have to go with something else.
Eventually my good "old" Droid will start to feel outdated and I will need to go with a different phone, but I guess I'll have to change my mindset back to when I had a RAZR and the thought of doing anything with the OS yourself was like thinking someday we'll see real live Jedi walking around.
jradicle11
That Guy
I don't really see it as half-assed. It addressed people's main complaints with the original Droid. The keyboard is phenomenal and the processor is equal to that of the X. They kept the same look but has improved software.
What does the d-pad have that the directional keys don't?
I really don't see people's issue with "blur." It doesn't affect speed, seeing as the Droid 2 and posted some very nice benchmarks running their custom 2.2. The only reason I can see it bothering them is if they don't like how it looks.
What does the d-pad have that the directional keys don't?
I really don't see people's issue with "blur." It doesn't affect speed, seeing as the Droid 2 and posted some very nice benchmarks running their custom 2.2. The only reason I can see it bothering them is if they don't like how it looks.
xjestersdeadx
Well-Known Member
Dude, "improved software" is really not a fact, but an opinion when you figure Blur is mandatory and it's "Ok" but not one reviewer has said, "YES!!! We have BLUR!! We. have. BLUR!!!!!."
How about I put a skin of Windows 95 on top of my Windows 7 machine and call it improved? LOL
jradicle11
That Guy
So the new software increases the speed of the phone, it's features, and the overall functionality/smoothness of the phone, but it's not an improvement?
It'd be more like reformatting your Windows Vista machine with Windows 7.
I don't see where you're going with this, dude.
It'd be more like reformatting your Windows Vista machine with Windows 7.
I don't see where you're going with this, dude.
Are you referring to Froyo as software? Just want to be clear. Obviously Blur doesn't increase the speed of the phone, but Froyo (the OS) does, versus a phone still on 2.1.
jradicle11
That Guy
The "blur" is improved from previous versions, but the software as a whole, yes. Froyo is the reason the speed is increased, but "blur" doesn't negate any of the speed increase. I really don't see it as an issue. If you're going to attack a phone because it has "blur," it's strictly aesthetic.
xjestersdeadx
Well-Known Member
Bingo. Froyo is an improvement, but rooted or not, the original Droid will have Froyo. Blur is a skin on TOP of Froyo, and it's not designed to improve speed.
Features "improvement" is a matter of opinion, some people like Froyo as is, some don't mind Blur and like what it does. (Although I haven't found too many who love it.) Heck, look at the Droid X forums, people are chatting away at exactly what parts of Blur are safe to remove.
The "functionality/smoothness" is also debatable for a skin that you can't remove (or aren't supposed to for nonrooted folks). I can see an argument for some things functioning different or better than Froyo, but smoothness? Blur is not going to make things smoother...if anything its additional software running on top of your fast Froyo. The OS handles it well I'm sure, but it will be equal in speed or just a tad bit slower with extra stuff on top.
The processor will be better, and for unrooted Droid users, it well may be faster than the original, both with Froyo running. So the processor is definitely an improvement.
But it's not like reformatting at all... you have a skin on the top of your OS. Blur is the skin on top of Froyo OS.