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Juice defender draining battery?

vlasveld

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My battery seems like its draining faster with juice defender than before I got it. Anyone else notice anything like this?

I'm moderate heavy use and am the type of person who is always picking up the phone to check emails and texts and Facebook.

What is your experiences so far with this app?
 
It's worked pretty well for me. I'm not convinced it is helping as much as I originally thought it was, but it hasn't worsened my battery life. I'm currently retesting it but don't yet have any decent data.
 
It's worked pretty well for me. I'm not convinced it is helping as much as I originally thought it was, but it hasn't worsened my battery life. I'm currently retesting it but don't yet have any decent data.


Post in here and let me know how it goes!
 
I don't know. I mean, I just installed JD sometime last night. So far the data said x1.43. Now x1.51. Still too early to tell if it's thumbs up or down.
 
My battery seems like its draining faster with juice defender than before I got it. Anyone else notice anything like this?

I'm moderate heavy use and am the type of person who is always picking up the phone to check emails and texts and Facebook.

What is your experiences so far with this app?

While I don't doubt that your battery life may have gotten "worse" I know for a fact it's not JuiceDefenders fault. JuiceDefender works best when your phone is off and not in use. It is designed to take control of the infamous "Cell Standby" usage by turning off your 3G/4G radios when not in use. For your battery life to worsen means that you used your phone more or installed a rogue app.
 
I assume JD runs as a service 24/7 (it must monitor 3G and Wifi somehow, continuously). It's been a while since I tried it, but I believe I uninstalled it because I was getting worse battery use. My phone is in Airplane mode 12 hours per night and only loses 1% during that time, I think with JD it was losing like 5% at night. It probably does help during the day while on 3G (since I lose 25%-30% during the day).

If you get a VOIP call over 3G will JD automatically take the call and switch to 3G? I know if I turn off 3G data, my Groove IP turns itself off. I'd be real surprised if JD is smart enough to sense a call, turn on 3G, turn on GrooveIP, and ring the phone. Since I use my Google Voice#/Groove IP for business, don't think JD is for me.
 
My battery seems like its draining faster with juice defender than before I got it. Anyone else notice anything like this?

I'm moderate heavy use and am the type of person who is always picking up the phone to check emails and texts and Facebook.

What is your experiences so far with this app?
I had JD originally but switched to android booster with better results, speed, batt life but do it periodically while on to promote effective use of RAM
 
Been using JD Ultimate for more than a month now. I can't see myself ever uninstalling it. Works fantastic. The only time I see any significant battery drain is when I'm using the display for an extended period of time. IE: Games...Web surfing...Trying to figure out how to add profiles to Tasker for the first time...etc
 
I assume JD runs as a service 24/7 (it must monitor 3G and Wifi somehow, continuously). It's been a while since I tried it, but I believe I uninstalled it because I was getting worse battery use. My phone is in Airplane mode 12 hours per night and only loses 1% during that time, I think with JD it was losing like 5% at night. It probably does help during the day while on 3G (since I lose 25%-30% during the day).

If you get a VOIP call over 3G will JD automatically take the call and switch to 3G? I know if I turn off 3G data, my Groove IP turns itself off. I'd be real surprised if JD is smart enough to sense a call, turn on 3G, turn on GrooveIP, and ring the phone. Since I use my Google Voice#/Groove IP for business, don't think JD is for me.

I can't argue that in your position JD may have hurt your battery life. But the average user (which I assume the OP is) doesn't put there phone into Airplane mode at night. You realize that this means nobody can call you right? Even in the case of an emergency? I don't even understand why people don't just charge their phone overnight :confused:
 
Thanks for the replies guys. What I was noticing was better bat life savings with the built in gingerbread saver on Max savings and JD uninstalled.
 
Well, I get no bars (at all) at home, maybe 2 or 3 radio stations that fade in and out (with a regular FM radio), no TV stations OTA... so no I don't expect any calls. But I do have WiFi on from 6:00 PM to 10:00 PM and do receive Groove IP calls... Also have Viatalk VOIP on my home network for "normal" emergency calls, on 24/7. I "could" leave Wifi on all night to receive GrooveIP calls if I wanted, it actually doesn't drain battery much more... but I'd rather sleep.


I can't argue that in your position JD may have hurt your battery life. But the average user (which I assume the OP is) doesn't put there phone into Airplane mode at night. You realize that this means nobody can call you right? Even in the case of an emergency? I don't even understand why people don't just charge their phone overnight :confused:
 
Well, I get no bars (at all) at home, maybe 2 or 3 radio stations that fade in and out (with a regular FM radio), no TV stations OTA... so no I don't expect any calls. But I do have WiFi on from 6:00 PM to 10:00 PM and do receive Groove IP calls... Also have Viatalk VOIP on my home network for "normal" emergency calls, on 24/7. I "could" leave Wifi on all night to receive GrooveIP calls if I wanted, it actually doesn't drain battery much more... but I'd rather sleep.

I'm not trying to challenge you or de-rail the thread, but strictly out of curiousity. In your current situation why don't you:

1. Charge your phone while you sleep

OR

2. Turn it off completely
 
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I'm not trying to challenge you or de-rail the thread, but strictly out of curiousity. In your current situation why don't you:

1. Charge your phone while you sleep (Don't really have battery issues, I charge twice a week. I use Power scheduler and all the switching is automatic)

OR

2. Turn it off completely (I don't like waiting for it to reboot, takes at least 5 minutes, maybe 10 to get back to fully loaded. I reboot maybe once a month)
 
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Well, to each his own :D I just throw my phone on the desk dock each night, since it's my alarm clock anyway. Your setup is probably one of the best examples of why Android is so superior to any other phone OS. With a little patience and finesse you can make these phones do ANYTHING.
 
I have never really installed juice defender myself so as far as i know i cannot really comment on it. Have you tried installing it and using other things to compare the battery timing. Don't you think your battery might have gone weak with the passage of time.
 
JuiceDefender will provide the best results for light to moderate users. I fit that description, use JuiceDefender, and it has given me a significant improvement in battery life.

If you're a heavy user, or like to pick up your phone frequently and turn it on, JD is not going to provide a noticable improvement in battery life, and can in fact have a negative impact.
 
My wife installed JD on our phone's a week ago, and since then she had to replace her battery and both of our phones now have charging issues. We both have EVO 4Gs.
 
Basically: Juice Defender is for people who don't know how to shut off data. If you don't have data running, it does nothing but waste more battery life and take up RAM.
 
shutting off my wifi is easy.. i just don't see how having it shut off your data connection and check/sync every 15 or 30 minutes is really going to save that much?

When it kicks in and has to turn everything off and on every 30 min doesn't that use more life than just leaving your data connection on?
 
Basically: Juice Defender is for people who don't know how to shut off data. If you don't have data running, it does nothing but waste more battery life and take up RAM.

That's a pretty innacurate statement. I know how to turn my data off, but I'm not going to turn it on every 15 minutes to sync my stuff then turn it off again :confused: I can understand many reasons why someone wouldn't want to use JuiceDefender, but I don't see the need to try and talk down to users of the app. It's no different than tasker. Tasker only does things that anyone could do themselves. The point is that it AUTOMATES tasks.

shutting off my wifi is easy.. i just don't see how having it shut off your data connection and check/sync every 15 or 30 minutes is really going to save that much?

When it kicks in and has to turn everything off and on every 30 min doesn't that use more life than just leaving your data connection on?

Your 4G/3G radio uses alot of battery. So depending on how much you use your phone, it could save you A LOT. I don't see your point about the "kicking on and using more battery". It uses little to no CPU cycles OR Ram.

You guys realize that the default battery manager that comes installed on android does the exact same thing as JuiceDefender. It's just not as good at it, nor does it have as many options...


Edit: Also to clarify, if you have the interval set for 30 minutes, then every 30 minutes, it will turn your data on for a specified amount of time. Mine is set for 30 seconds. Then based on traffic (say you have a lot data to sync and 30 seconds isn't enough) it will stay on until the sync finishes. Then it will turn it off. So even if I round up and assume the radio had to stay on for 1 minute to sync. That's 1 minute your radio is on out of every 30 minutes. 2 minutes every hour. That means if you didn't touch your phone at all for an entire day, your radio would be on for 48 minutes out of 24 hours. If you can't see how that would potentially save you battery life you are crazy.

(Obviously if you use your phone your radio would be on more, I'm just making a point. But heck, if battery life is so important to you, make it so when the screen is on the radio doesn't turn on, then configure a list of apps you want the radio to turn on for. Now you can pull your phone out and text/play games without your data turning on)
 
I thought I'd mess around with JD and it drained my battery by 11% in the space of 30 minutes. Before installing JD I had SetCPU installed and saw a 5% drop in 7hrs.
 
I thought I'd mess around with JD and it drained my battery by 11% in the space of 30 minutes. Before installing JD I had SetCPU installed and saw a 5% drop in 7hrs.

What phone are you using? I don't understand how you could possibly have the above happen :confused: Maybe it's an incompatability with your phone? :(
 
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