Keeping my Droid X to support US Jobs

[mobimop]

LOL - now I got your attention...

Let me preface that I own several foreign automobiles, and almost of my electronics are from foreign manufacturers, TV, Receiver, DVR, etc. Our guest cottage is filled with Ikea furniture... So you can see I'm not an extremist writing a rant about patriotism and how were all going to hell for not supporting the working man...

Now to my story:

I was going to trade-in my Droid X for the new and awesome battery destroying Thunderbolt, my upgrade is up and I have $250.00 burning in my pocket.

However as I reflect I have no real need as my X runs great, awesome battery life, etc.

I kept telling myself that I need to rush out and get a LTE device before Verizon puts the kabash on the unlimited data plan but after some serious reflection on our current state of affairs in this country I came to the conclusion that when I can I should support American designed and produced products when warranted.

This X is probably the single best smartphone I've ever owned, I've had everything from the old Treo 600 to the original Blackberry 7250, and several models after that. Several Windows Mobile phones, etc, etc, etc, I could list over 15 smart phones up to the iPhone 3G, I never upgraded to the 3GS. I had an original HTC Eris and Incredible when it launched, had mixed results with both phones.

Now that I've had the X for the past 8 months and I just can't find fault with it, okay the boot loader issue might be an exception for some but for me that's not the end of the world.

I'd rather support Motorola and hope they stay in the smart phone business for a long time and in doing so support some of my fellow American's with some economic stability....

So HTC our honeymoon never got started as I left you at the altar but have no fear I'm sure you'll have many takers it just wont be me....

 

[kastleberg]

Not sure about you, but my Droid X says made in China...

And anyway, what major American corporation is actually based out of America anyway? Isn't that the problem? American corporations are moving their jobs overseas...

Oh, and economic stability by supporting American corporations? Aren't most of the banks (not all, but certainly a vast majority of them) that brought us to this situation American? Not trying to attack you, I'm just not sure that what you are saying makes any real sense with how globalized things are getting.

 

[mobimop]

Not sure about you, but my Droid X says made in China...

And anyway, what major American corporation is actually based out of America anyway? Isn't that the problem? American corporations are moving their jobs overseas...

Oh, and economic stability by supporting American corporations? Aren't most of the banks (not all, but certainly a vast majority of them) that brought us to this situation American? Not trying to attack you, I'm just not sure that what you are saying makes any real sense with how globalized things are getting.

I'm talking about the actual company, engineers, designers, IT, sales, etc are all here in the USA, drawing paychecks and spending money at local companies. Yes it's most likely manufactured in China but is designed in the USA. I.E. HTC design and engineering is all done back in Taiwan, here is hoping Motorola doesn't sell the "mobility" division to a foreign company which is very well possible...

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9N25U900.htm

 

[Outlaw71]

I'm glad you're happy with your DX, and I can not fault your faithfulness to their company as they fill all of your needs. What else could matter to a consumer?

My needs differ from yours however.... well, I guess I'd be better off saying my 'wants' differ from yours. I want a highend smartphone with an unlocked bootloader. That didn't look to be coming out of Motorola any time in the near future unless the 'Targa' truly does turn out to be the next Nexus device. But I wasn't about to hold my breath on that so I did the only thing a consumer can really do in order to try and make themself be heard... I purchased a different high end device with an unlocked bootloader.

Like I said, I don't expect everyone here to follow my lead at all. If the locked down bootloader isn't an issue for you, I'm not here to try and convince you otherwise. I'm just a part of a consumer group that's trying to send Motorola a message that if you want us to continue to buy your product, you'll have to unlock your bootloaders. If you don't want our business, then we'll spend our money on other OEMs that are willing to sell us what we want.

I don't know how large of a segment I'm in to be honest. We might not even be a blip on their radar for all I know. All I know is that this is the only resource I have at my disposal. Moto isn't going to listen to me any other way, that much I know. I also know that if I'm part of a group that is big enough to gain their attention, then that will be the only thing that will truly motivate them to review their current stance and possibly/hopefully reverse it.

If not then I sincerely hope you and all other loyal Moto fans continue to enjoy your Motorola devices for years to come. I will be enjoying my LG (or other) device which didn't come locked, skinned, or otherwise hampered in the least. This G2x has the same heart and soul that the OG Droid was born with. The spirit of the original Droid that created this whole fascination with Android in the first place lives on in devices like the wide open LG G2x, as well as others (Samsung has vowed never to lock their bootloaders unless Google itself requires it).

I just feel it's a shame that spirit doesn't live on in any other Motorola devices.

 

[sonofaresiii]

Huh. And here I thought Motorola was Japanese.

 

[kastleberg]

I'm talking about the actual company, engineers, designers, IT, sales, etc are all here in the USA, drawing paychecks and spending money at local companies. Yes it's most likely manufactured in China but is designed in the USA. I.E. HTC design and engineering is all done back in Taiwan, here is hoping Motorola doesn't sell the "mobility" division to a foreign company which is very well possible...

Motorola spinoff gets tax breaks to stay in Ill. - BusinessWeek

Nevermind. Just read it. 3000. What percentage of their full workforce is that?

 

[Hrethgir]

How is keeping a phone you already own helping US jobs? You want to help US jobs, you need to buy more products made in the US.

 

[Kaleb Randleaxe]

Motorola is a US based company that buys all of the internals from foreign companies and has them assembled overseas in foreign manufacturing plants. Isn't that, like, exactly what you're trying to NOT support?

 

[mobimop]

How is keeping a phone you already own helping US jobs? You want to help US jobs, you need to buy more products made in the US.

Exactly, I chose NOT to purchase a new phone from a taiwanese based company and will continue to support and purchase Motorola phones provided they are as good as my X and remain competitive.

 

[mobimop]

Motorola is a US based company that buys all of the internals from foreign companies and has them assembled overseas in foreign manufacturing plants. Isn't that, like, exactly what you're trying to NOT support?

I'm trying to stop the further erosion of our economy by supporting what is left in the USA.

I can't change the fact that almost all of our manufacturing is performed overseas however the engineers that design these magnificent phones are here in America and we need to keep not only those jobs but America needs to keep talented people and by having these jobs will encourage our youth to attend College and become engineers, without the jobs available what's the point in a higher education.

 

[Willyg44]

I'm trying to stop the further erosion of our economy by supporting what is left in the USA.

I can't change the fact that almost all of our manufacturing is performed overseas however the engineers that design these magnificent phones are here in America and we need to keep not only those jobs but America needs to keep talented people and by having these jobs will encourage our youth to attend College and become engineers, without the jobs available what's the point in a higher education.

ALL of the designers and engineers for mobile phones are not in the US lol, that's very incorrect. Secondly, with cheap labor outside of the US, stuff will never be produced here with all the laws. Third, our higher education system sucks major ass, so as I can respect what you are doing, that's cool, I hope you are trying to make a change elsewhere like higher education and such where the root of the problem is

 

[Dabitz]

I see the point of the OP, it has become a moral issue. This is coming from someone whose ACCOUNTING job has just been outsourced to India. And this by the top education company in the US 2.6B sales and over 500M operating income. Better days will come I guess... But something has to get done about this outsourcing problem.

 

[nj02vette]

ALL of the designers and engineers for mobile phones are not in the US lol, that's very incorrect. Secondly, with cheap labor outside of the US, stuff will never be produced here with all the laws. Third, our higher education system sucks major ass, so as I can respect what you are doing, that's cool, I hope you are trying to make a change elsewhere like higher education and such where the root of the problem is

If our higher education sucks so bad, then why are all the best and brightest foreign students coming to American Universities.

Once you get past easily maniupulated statistics, you'll find that there is not much wrong with American education. There's always room for improvement, just not as dire as the media would have you believe.

 

[mobimop]

This isn't a "politics" thread by any means!!!

 

[Hrethgir]

Which is better for the US economy to buy? A Honda Accord sedan that is built in Ohio or a Chevrolet Camaro built in Canada or a Pontiac GTO that was designed and built in Australia? Did you know that every Dodge Hemi engine is actually built in Mexico? There are foreign-owned companies that have more domestic content than US-based companies, you need to dig deeper than the first layer to find out how to help the US economy,

 

[mikedt]

Not sure about you, but my Droid X says made in China...

That's what I thought.

To the OP, how can having a Chinese made phone be supporting US jobs? Also I suspect much of Motorola's R&D is done in India these days, again this is not exactly going to help with the US unemployment situation.

And anyway, what major American corporation is actually based out of America anyway?.

The ones which make guns and weapons of mass destruction. e.g. Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Boeing, Raytheon, Remington, Smith & Wesson, Fairchild, ATK to name a few.

 

[mobimop]

Which is better for the US economy to buy? A Honda Accord sedan that is built in Ohio or a Chevrolet Camaro built in Canada or a Pontiac GTO that was designed and built in Australia? Did you know that every Dodge Hemi engine is actually built in Mexico? There are foreign-owned companies that have more domestic content than US-based companies, you need to dig deeper than the first layer to find out how to help the US economy,

I'm speaking about Motorola, not the car industry. Over 3,000 jobs in Illinois that are tied to Motorola's Mobility division.

 

[mobimop]

That's what I thought.

To the OP, how can having a Chinese made phone be supporting US jobs? Also I suspect much of Motorola's R&D is done in India these days, again this is not exactly going to help with the US unemployment situation.



The ones which make guns and weapons of mass destruction. e.g. Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Boeing, Raytheon, Smith & Wesson, Fairchild, ATK to name a few.

Geez Louise.... The R&D, etc is done here: Normal, IL....

How could keeping THREE THOUSAND JOBS IN ILLINOIS not help?? EVERY LITTLE BIT counts no?

Motorola – Employees - Motorola Mobility, Inc. USA

 

[mobimop]

Which is better for the US economy to buy? A Honda Accord sedan that is built in Ohio or a Chevrolet Camaro built in Canada or a Pontiac GTO that was designed and built in Australia? Did you know that every Dodge Hemi engine is actually built in Mexico? There are foreign-owned companies that have more domestic content than US-based companies, you need to dig deeper than the first layer to find out how to help the US economy,

I'm talking about the THREE THOUSAND INDIVIDUALS CURRENTLY EMPLOYED IN ILLINOIS.... I could care less about the folks outside our country...

 

[mobimop]

Over 315 Job openings for Motorola Mobility for positions USA...

 

[lordofthereef]

Exactly, I chose NOT to purchase a new phone from a taiwanese based company and will continue to support and purchase Motorola phones provided they are as good as my X and remain competitive.

The point is, they already got the money from you on the phone, whether you keep it for a day or ten years. You aren't really helping anyone's job by keeping it, you are simply NOT helping the Taiwanese company of HTC either. Essentially you helped Motorola once and you are helping nobody now by keeping the phone(which is fine).

 

[Hrethgir]

I'm speaking about Motorola, not the car industry. Over 3,000 jobs in Illinois that are tied to Motorola's Mobility division.

I'm talking about the THREE THOUSAND INDIVIDUALS CURRENTLY EMPLOYED IN ILLINOIS.... I could care less about the folks outside our country...

Why did you respond to my post twice? And I know you aren't talking about the auto industry, but just because Motorolas are designed in America doesn't mean buying a Moto phone is supporting more US jobs. You need to look into every component of the phone and find where they are sourced from to really find out how many jobs you are helping.

 

[mobimop]

Why did you respond to my post twice? And I know you aren't talking about the auto industry, but just because Motorolas are designed in America doesn't mean buying a Moto phone is supporting more US jobs. You need to look into every component of the phone and find where they are sourced from to really find out how many jobs you are helping.

Just because a company chooses to have several items manufactured or assembled overseas doesn't imply they don't employ people in the USA. I'm sure plenty of folks at Chrysler have jobs related to that Hemi engine built in Mexico, engineers, etc are all involved to make that happen.

I'm helping the 3,000 jobs that are currently in the USA employed by Motorola Mobility. If purchasing from Motorola isn't supporting Motorola then I must be really ignorant.

Do you really think if Motorola continues to hemorrhage billions of dollars they'll stay in the Mobile phone world? They'll most likely sell to a foreign company, and guess what happens to those 3,000+ employees jobs....

Why do I need to look into every component? The jobs that have been exported overseas are already lost....

The jobs LEFT here in the US are what I want to try and support, buying from a USA based Corporation I think is a positive step in the right direction.

Motorola is a US based company, if purchasing products from Motorola isn't supporting them I give up....

I do know that purchasing a phone from HTC won't help Motorola.

 

[n0ct3m]

How is keeping a phone you already own helping US jobs? You want to help US jobs, you need to buy more products made in the US.

That's a hard thing to do these days. Even our most trivial products are made out of country.

 

[mobimop]

That's a hard thing to do these days. Even our most trivial products are made out of country.

It's easy buy products that support jobs in the USA.

Dare I say it, Apple is a great example. Apple has 49,400 employees in the USA and guess what hardly anything they sell hardware wise is manufactured in the USA.