Well people on the forum also like to dismiss everything before believing it (not sure why I would make this up) but I have felt both the recessed and protruding trackpads with my own hands. I won't argue any more, but if you have a chance to handle an incredible that was received right after launch (didn't get caught on the big back order), and one that was recently received after the backorder, do it.
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Help Light causing phantom swipes on optical track pad
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Skorpios1027
Frell me dead
My trackpad is slightly recessed and my phone was manufactured 6/1. I do have the occasional phantom swipe, though I can't say for sure that it is always to the left. I also have been unable to duplicate it intentionally. Since the touch screen on my phone is so sensitive, I'm more likely to attribute the phenomenon to an inadvertent "real" swipe.
adrynalyne
Android Expert
Just provide pictures like we asked. Have you read the front page threads lately? There is damn good reason to dismiss everything without proof.
adrynalyne
Android Expert
I don't have any phantom swipes. What I do have is the trackpad stops working on forums where I am editing text. Although i think that may be a side effect of the ota leak as it updated both the browser and the flashlite plugin.
sabrewings
Android Expert
Like I said, mine is a mid May build and mine is perfectly flush with the glass. If anything, I'd say it slightly protrudes, but not even by a millimeter. You have to be feeling for that to notice it and can't tell by looking.
Also, mine is Rev 002, like all currently shipping Incredibles.
Also, mine is Rev 002, like all currently shipping Incredibles.
adrynalyne
Android Expert
That leads me to believe its just a manufacturing difference. These machines are mass produced, and will vary to some extent.
Once again, like the Moto Droid's and the bubbled vs. flat keyboards.
Once again, like the Moto Droid's and the bubbled vs. flat keyboards.
Mine was shipped 6/24. Trackpad is flush with glass. Crystal clear screenie is noticeably (well maybe only a c*ckhair) higher than it. Had the phantom swipe happen only once... to the right for about 5 min or so, I shut it down to charge for the night(4 nights ago) and never happened again.
Think my incredible has the new plasma screen htc is shipping now produced by sony........
Think my incredible has the new plasma screen htc is shipping now produced by sony........
unleaded_thought
Lurker
I've seen the phantom swipes on my inc but have never tested them. i have an 'original' dinc received the first week after launch. I've seen my inc sitting on my desk at work and swipe screens on its own. zero change in light, no shadows, no touching. this is at work under fluorescent lighting.
my trackpad does feel recessed, and i believe that may be due to a slight gradient which the trackpad has. I can't confirm this as true, it just feels to me that it may dip in ever so slightly. But I am also extremely sensitive to build qualities and the tactile feedback received from inanimate objects.
as for variations in actual trackpad height, this could very well be due mass production variances. for instance, Hart ski's ONE ski from 2009 was on a run of 100. a friend of mine has one of the first 20. he ran into someone with a build number around 80 and the colors were more pastel compared to his, which were much more vibrant. as these skis were produced, the ink Hart was using was most likely applied more heavily in the beginning and less heavy in the end, or something to that nature.
Just as with mass manufacturing, model one dinc may be .0010 millimeters under the surface of the glass and as the machines produced the phones, they slowly and slowly began to produce the trackpad ever so slightly closer to the glass, .0015, .0016, .0017 etc etc.
OR, they are using multiple manufacturing facilities which have slight variances in how their machines calculate certain mathematical algorithms.
Who knows. i think the trackpad is the ugliest part of this devices. it's ribbed, and not for her pleasure, so when you touch it, it creates unwanted friction (to me, atleast), and the silver ring doesn't jive with me. and to top it off, mine feels ever so slightly recessed, which to me is poor build quality. i want it flush and smooth as if not there at all, or blatantly bumped out.
my trackpad does feel recessed, and i believe that may be due to a slight gradient which the trackpad has. I can't confirm this as true, it just feels to me that it may dip in ever so slightly. But I am also extremely sensitive to build qualities and the tactile feedback received from inanimate objects.
as for variations in actual trackpad height, this could very well be due mass production variances. for instance, Hart ski's ONE ski from 2009 was on a run of 100. a friend of mine has one of the first 20. he ran into someone with a build number around 80 and the colors were more pastel compared to his, which were much more vibrant. as these skis were produced, the ink Hart was using was most likely applied more heavily in the beginning and less heavy in the end, or something to that nature.
Just as with mass manufacturing, model one dinc may be .0010 millimeters under the surface of the glass and as the machines produced the phones, they slowly and slowly began to produce the trackpad ever so slightly closer to the glass, .0015, .0016, .0017 etc etc.
OR, they are using multiple manufacturing facilities which have slight variances in how their machines calculate certain mathematical algorithms.
Who knows. i think the trackpad is the ugliest part of this devices. it's ribbed, and not for her pleasure, so when you touch it, it creates unwanted friction (to me, atleast), and the silver ring doesn't jive with me. and to top it off, mine feels ever so slightly recessed, which to me is poor build quality. i want it flush and smooth as if not there at all, or blatantly bumped out.
LOL, I think we all got way off the subject here which, correct me if I am wrong, has to do with phantom swipes.
I have a pre-ordered DInc that SEEMS to have a recessed track pad. I really have no aesthetic aversion to the optical track pad but, as I said above, whatever.
I DO have an issue with phantom swipes though, which only happen when I am using Kindle, and a page suddenly turns. It happens very infrequently, and I have not been able to replicate it intentionally or to associate it with any action/inaction. This does not occur with any other use of the phone. So I just shrug and turn the page back.
This just doesn't seem to be an issue that's worth a lot of angst. Definitely not worth a return and all that headache. But that's just me I guess. Whatever.
unleaded_thought
Lurker
I agree. opposed to my lengthy post, whatever is my feeling as well...
as for the kindle app though. does it happen to occur when you tap the screen accidentally? the app has hidden buttons on the left and right of the screen to change pages without actually swiping. i thought the phantom swipe was occurring during kindle use when in fact i had accidentally tapped the page because my thumb or fingers bend over the sides of the phone (grip of death as some so aptly call it)
Just a thought / something to pay attention to.
as for the kindle app though. does it happen to occur when you tap the screen accidentally? the app has hidden buttons on the left and right of the screen to change pages without actually swiping. i thought the phantom swipe was occurring during kindle use when in fact i had accidentally tapped the page because my thumb or fingers bend over the sides of the phone (grip of death as some so aptly call it)
Just a thought / something to pay attention to.
Yep - I have used Kindle with my previous iPhone. I am aware of the tap-to-turn hidden buttons, and it is possible that is happening at least some of the time. I just remember one particular instance where my fingers were nowhere near the screen, but the page turned anyway. Good call, though.
mobiledevice
Member
I preordered my Dinc the day the preorders started. I got my phone the day before release day.
Hardware Ver. 002
Slightly recessed trackpad
Phantom Swipes happen every now and then.
Hardware Ver. 002
Slightly recessed trackpad
Phantom Swipes happen every now and then.
wayrad
Android Expert
If wiping the optical joystick doesn't correct the problem, I would wonder if it had picked up a tiny scratch. A dissecting microscope or a good hand lens might be helpful here.
As far as whether the trackpad is recessed, are people talking about the whole button (which FWIW is slightly recessed on my early-Amoled DInc), or just the glass part (which on mine is flush with the button surface, perhaps with a slight dome in the middle, but hard to tell)?
As far as whether the trackpad is recessed, are people talking about the whole button (which FWIW is slightly recessed on my early-Amoled DInc), or just the glass part (which on mine is flush with the button surface, perhaps with a slight dome in the middle, but hard to tell)?