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Lollipop headaches

usualantics said:
Ok so I updated my s5 last night. I can't get my lock screen to accept the livewallpaper I used to use (it works fine on the home screen) and the BIG thing to me that is missing is when music player is you have to completely unlock the phone now to skip tracks not just the old hit the home button to wake it up and there was a small player on the lock screen
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Those issues sound like they may be related to the Samsung software. Have you checked here to see if anyone else has similar observations after the update?
 
I've now done a hard reset and managed to reinstall most of my apps and data. It's still quite slow, I get messages that some background process has crashed, and sometimes when I try to run an app the screen goes black for between 10 and 40 seconds.
 
EarlyMon said:
Use Helium Backup or root and do nandroid backups.

Right now I have 15 GB of data and apps for my backups, not counting 30 GB on the sd card.

Try that in 7 to 9 minutes. Try that on a Palm TX - oh wait, it had 128 MB total, 100 only for the user.

Four hundred and fifty times less storage in my case and for a whole lot of other people.

Meanwhile, however you slice it, including the dissembling about how no one (me lmao) let's you talk about old technology, the reality is that you have backup options. With various oems for Android, syncing and backups are included. If not, there are Play Store solutions.

Otherwise, I think it would be great if everything was as simple as it was ten years ago, when the Palm was new.

And you couldn't do a fraction as much on your phone. :)

None of which is on topic for Lollipop but there you go.
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I really love your attitude...
and the way you are so blind... but not my intention you to see, just keep it that way boy!
and yest it has to do with lollipop because its another release that yet doesnt include many things discussed here...

Up to 35minutes a backup is reasonable, i mean something you o each 15 days, each month, 35 is reasonable IF IT IS neceary...

in my palm TX i have a 16b sd card... so its not only the 128mb... anyway today we have usb3.0 so, the time it takes to make a backup of any device with less than 100gb should be a concern as long it takes less than 30 minutes....

you and you absolutist vision is blocking you from understanding that i (and others) have no intention in proving old tech is better, i just take the best part of old tech (the simplicity) and TRY (if it is within the posibilities due the complexity of todays system) to mix it with todays techs... thats what i do where i work and i doit VERY WELL since nobody expect (not if everybody thinks like you) to have such powerfull devices in terms of processing, flexibility and utility with sucha simple usage and such a so logical-ergonomical inspired design... my job (where i work) is practically to show people how "things" MUST be done before a brand toll us how to doit for their (the brand) convenience. in my company, we have department parallel to the developent department, after something comes fromdevelopment then we do quality test and our customized ligic-simpliciity test.. its not something common, its a test pilot plan (but we have 5 years of success) and it does not require any extra degree, just a super clear and uncompromised and not bended mind to see things clear and how they should be... and to apply that (following some procedures) to the product... its basically a KISS principle but applied to the industry, the only famoust brand i know is applying that and that has a department like ours is FHI... they have that department since 1989 with a clear and steady curve of success until now.

The work is hard because the rest of thw world is pulling to the other side... (just look this whole post... and check the general trend of the comments and their responses)

The reason i mention what i "do" is so you can understand why i still insist in that part of old tech...
i have a friend that was a former developer for palm os.. he now has a real good job at google... when i asked him about the backup and the sdcard in the nexus product.. he just simple told me "google sell you a really cheap device (for its specs) and wants to recover something with their clouds services, they WANT you to use the cloud, with the risk in privacy... but they want you to use the cloud.. and google will invest lot of money in makeing you to believe thats the most efficient wait to do the things...

clearly the plans has worked VERY well because many ones REALLY things todays methods are more efficient than other past already proven mothods (i am not saying ALL of them)...

just look where facebook and whatssap are goig....

to finishi within 3 or 5 years with something very similar to the msn messeger.... (i am have no intention of discussin this last sentence... just wait and you will see what is coming, and for the doubts go back and read the real reason why messenger closed )


going back...

Does helium allow a full backp with a single file option for saving it, if i purchase another same device i just load that file and everything is like it was in my "lost" device? does helium work that way?
what are the full complete backup options available?
 
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I think helium mostly just backs up apps and their data so no, not a complete image of the device.
For that you need to root, install a custom recovery and make a nandroid backup
(when you think about it, with the amount of different Android devices around all running slightly different OS, its not surprising there isn't a stock solution for what you're asking)
 
I fully understand the complete post in spite of the lack of editing after he wrote it.
My posts look the same way with 120 wpm fingers, I write stuff in MS Word and then look at the grammer mistooks
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and try to make it intelligible.
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I too am a KISS principle type who will not jump off into the latest gimmick just because it is there.
ie, my 5.0 rant of last night when I discovered that Verizon is forcing the 5.0 update on us.
I don't want it, but fully understand that one day, it will be done, but I don't have to bow to their wishes just yet.

I have also been involved in testing from R&D and telling the engineers how crooked up they are, to go back and use some more TP on their crap and make it usable.

ah well, at the end of the day, it is just another forum post, that won't be remembered 30 seconds after the next thread comes up.
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2 ea. Verizon Galaxy S5, KK 4.4.4, ART
MyPhoneExplorer saves your tailbone
Nova Prime, Textra, Blue Mail, Qi wireless equipped
I refuse to install LolliFLOP
Data and WiFi have been permanently turned OFF until VZW fixes this mess.
 
Someone just PM and told me...
just wait, those issues will be be solved, we will ahve the old benefits and the new comming ones.... but have to wait.. then i asked... we wouldnt have to wait that long for already mastered function if we wouldnt have started over and over....
 
AZgl1500 said:
I fully understand the complete post in spite of the lack of editing after he wrote it.
My posts look the same way with 120 wpm fingers, I write stuff in MS Word and then look at the grammer mistooks
ssshh.gif
and try to make it intelligible.
confused.gif


I too am a KISS principle type who will not jump off into the latest gimmick just because it is there.
ie, my 5.0 rant of last night when I discovered that Verizon is forcing the 5.0 update on us.
I don't want it, but fully understand that one day, it will be done, but I don't have to bow to their wishes just yet.

I have also been involved in testing from R&D and telling the engineers how crooked up they are, to go back and use some more TP on their crap and make it usable.

ah well, at the end of the day, it is just another forum post, that won't be remembered 30 seconds after the next thread comes up.
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2 ea. Verizon Galaxy S5, KK 4.4.4, ART
MyPhoneExplorer saves your tailbone
Nova Prime, Textra, Blue Mail, Qi wireless equipped
I refuse to install LolliFLOP
Data and WiFi have been permanently turned OFF until VZW fixes this mess.
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lol

yeap.. sorry... my english is still in development lol
not my native language lol;)
 
Kharl said:
lol

yeap.. sorry... my english is still in development lol
not my native language lol;)
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I agreed with your idea and smiled to be clear, told you the problem implementing it today and gave you the present day solution.

And got attacked for my trouble.

http://androidforums.com/threads/site-rules-guidelines.704/

You attacked two others last time you didn't like the idea. Stop it.

Attack ideas - not people.
 
EarlyMon said:
I agreed with your idea and smiled to be clear, told you the problem implementing it today and gave you the present day solution.

And got attacked for my trouble.

http://androidforums.com/threads/site-rules-guidelines.704/

You attacked two others last time you didn't like the idea. Stop it.

Attack ideas - not people.
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Ok, i agree with that, to attack the ideas instead the person behind it.. thats fair enough. Even it is indirectly and smoothly started by the other.... (not saying it is the case)... i tend to leave it and to continue...

Can you help me to identify those two other so i can apologize directly to them, since it was not my intention...
 
My phone has gotten a little laggier lately, but I think that's largely due to my recent addiction to Sim City Buildit......that's killing my battery life too :D

I do hope 5.0.2 brings some bug fixes. I'm not too fond of the random SODs or occasional loss of connectivity requiring a reboot.

Overall I'm still happy with it in relation to KitKat. There are solutions for PC backup like Helium, although I don't personally use it. I personally don't have anything on my phone that I would be distraught over losing, as app data is generally stored to your gmail account. I've found that the only thing I have to manually grab before doing a factory reset are my SMS's.
 
bjacks12 said:
My phone has gotten a little laggier lately, but I think that's largely due to my recent addiction to Sim City Buildit......that's killing my battery life too :D

I do hope 5.0.2 brings some bug fixes. I'm not too fond of the random SODs or occasional loss of connectivity requiring a reboot.

Overall I'm still happy with it in relation to KitKat. There are solutions for PC backup like Helium, although I don't personally use it. I personally don't have anything on my phone that I would be distraught over losing, as app data is generally stored to your gmail account. I've found that the only thing I have to manually grab before doing a factory reset are my SMS's.
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and that can be easily done and with little steps with mybackup pro
 
Still no lock screen music player controls update. Im really wishing I didn't update now. I didn't realise how much I actually used that function.
 
I have lock screen widgets enabled on my M8, the latest Play Music - and I don't have that.

Of course with my full-speed-ahead approach to modding my phone, that may be self-inflicted.

Is that a Lollipop-only feature?
 
funkylogik said:
I think helium mostly just backs up apps and their data so no, not a complete image of the device.
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But that is comparable to the Palm hotsync: that backed up your installed apps and your data, but not the system or system apps. The main difference is that it was a sync rather than a backup, so you could change data in the Palm Desktop app and then sync the changes back to the device (you did sometimes have to modify the sync behaviour by hand though, if you wanted to make sure that one or other version took precedence).

Yes, I'm another Palm refugee :)
 
Another Palm Pilot believer........ I still have the desktop app running on my PC, but the device itself is dead.
 
funkylogik said:
Well I don't like the notification shade.... There I said it!
G'nite peeps xxx
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I agree, I finally got round to flashing a CM12 based ROM on my Nexus 7 and the new way of handling notifications and the shade in general is terrible.

I'm just guessing, but from my few days using it, I imagine Lollipop works better on a phone than it does a tablet.
 
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