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Lollipop Silent Mode Makes Alarm Silent Too

rob10e

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Just updated my Samsung Galaxy Note 3 to Lollipop yesterday and when phone is in silent mode (one click below vibrate) the alarm is also silent. How many people will miss appointments or miss their plane because of this? You can set no interruptions up to 8 hours but seriously, this alarm silent feature is going to cause a lot of problems. There needs to be an update to have INDEFINITE ALARM INTERRUPTIONS no matter what mode the phone is in.
 
I read that the 5.1.0 update does something to "fix" silent mode but I'm not sure of the details mate
 
The notification modes in Lollipop are truly confusing, and it took me a long while to get used to using them. Eventually, I grew to appreciate the new options - but, again, that took a quite a bit of time and frustration.

Google's Help > Manage notifications settings page isn't really much help.

Fortunately, I found a blog post that does a pretty decent job of explaining what's up and how to use the new modes without going mad.
Interruption Modes
There are four modes for how Android handles notification sounds:

  1. All - All notifications make an audible noise.

  2. All (vibrate) - All notifications vibrate (but make no sound). This mode is accessible by turning the volume down to zero in the All mode.

  3. Priority - All notifications are silent by default... with exceptions. Alarms are always an exception. In addition, you can configure other exceptions in the Interruption Settings (for example, whether a starred contact's phone call should still ring).

  4. None - No notifications make any sound, period.
Priority & None can be set indefinitely or for a temporary amount of time. In addition, you can setup Priority to work at regular intervals (for example, bedtime each night).

Upgrading to Lollipop
The main point of confusion happens because pre-Lollipop you had three modes (all, vibrate, silent) and post-Lollipop it looks like you have three modes (all, priority, none). If you're like me, you mapped the three modes from the previous version to the visible modes in Lollipop, but that doesn't work because there are actually four modes in Lollipop.

The mapping is actually this:

  • All -> All
  • Vibrate -> All (vibrate)
  • Silent -> Priority
In past versions, silent mode was never actually silent - it had exceptions, like alarms. Priority just embraces this paradox by allowing you to configure which exceptions still make noise.

"None" is a new setting that did not exist pre-Lollipop. It can be considered true silence.

Issues
Just because you can recreate the settings from previous versions doesn't mean it's all sunshine and daisies. I still take issue with a few behaviors in Lollipop's notifications:

  1. These settings only apply to notification sounds. That means apps can still make sound, even if you're set to None. This is unintuitive at best and explains why some apps still make sound despite your settings.

  2. Visual notifications always appear (regardless of your settings) and they come down and block the top of your current app. This interruption is problematic when you need access to the top of the app.

  3. Well, all visual notifications appear except LEDs, which now turn off with priority mode. An unfortunate missing feature, since the rest of the settings are about sound alone.

  4. If you're in a game, playing music, or doing any other activity that uses the volume rocker, you can't quickly change your notification settings without stopping what you're doing first.

  5. "Priority" is the worst name for silent-plus-exceptions ever and is probably the reason why everyone is confused.
Hopefully this can save you some time and frustration. :)
 
Is there still the granularity in the sound settings on Lollipop? I'm on Kit Kat and I can manually change sound settings for alarm, media, notifications, ringer all independent of each other.
 
Is there still the granularity in the sound settings on Lollipop? I'm on Kit Kat and I can manually change sound settings for alarm, media, notifications, ringer all independent of each other.
Yes. Settings > Sound and Notifications lets you adjust the volumes individually, otherwise the volume buttons control whichever audio stream is active (media in a music player, alarm in the clock, ringtone everywhere else.

I believe 5.1 gets it so you can adjust any stream any time by expanding the volume panel.
 
Just updated my Samsung Galaxy Note 3 to Lollipop yesterday and when phone is in silent mode (one click below vibrate) the alarm is also silent. How many people will miss appointments or miss their plane because of this? You can set no interruptions up to 8 hours but seriously, this alarm silent feature is going to cause a lot of problems. There needs to be an update to have INDEFINITE ALARM INTERRUPTIONS no matter what mode the phone is in.
As a matter of interest, I downloaded and installed Lollipop 5.0.2 (HTC One M7), about two weeks ago. I don't have a step lower than vibrate, and even if I go into Settings - Sound & notification, and select Silent, my alarm still sounds.
 
I'm still waiting on 5.1 for my Nexus 4, but it sounds like the "None" interruptions option got slightly tweaked to work better with alarms. When you select None, in addition to the "Indefinitely" and "For X minutes/hours" time options you can now pick "Until next alarm."

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So that should behave pretty much exactly like Silent mode used to - no notifications or alerts at all, but your alarm will still sound. :thumbsupdroid:


And @tommo47 some manufacturers have changed quite a bit especially regarding the new notification controls in Lollipop. It sounds like HTC may have opted to migrate the old-style volume controls. That definitely makes the 4.4->5.x migration easier on some users, though I'm sure some (like me) would otherwise grow to appreciate Lollipop's new options. :)
 
And @tommo47 some manufacturers have changed quite a bit especially regarding the new notification controls in Lollipop. It sounds like HTC may have opted to migrate the old-style volume controls. That definitely makes the 4.4->5.x migration easier on some users, though I'm sure some (like me) would otherwise grow to appreciate Lollipop's new options. :)

That sounds about right - from memory most of the Sound & notification options haven't changed but there are a few additions and minor changes in descriptions. All in all I'm still very happy with the the 'HTC' version of Lollipop.

:)
 
(Wed 11 Mar 2015)
Fortunately, I found a blog post that does a pretty decent job of explaining what's up and how to use the new modes without going mad.

............. (inaltered copy of 2580 char) .............

Hopefully this can save you some time and frustration. :)
Thanks codesplice for your very useful post, yet please don't be upset if I bring to your attention that copying such a large part (2580 characters) of Dan Lew's carefully written and clear and easy to read explanation (3691 char), is a bit incorrect to him IMO. He sure would like (even if he keeps from bothering you with telling it) that people come and read it on his own site, and he does deserve it given the work he did before kindly uploading it. In addition, raw copying has always other drawbacks, e.g. making your own page outdated when the original gets updated.

Now thanks anyway for bringing the info, which was the most important, and of which at least you provided the clear and easy reference (a direct and clickable link, which not everyone remembers to do).

Versailles, Fri 21 Aug 2015 14:52:20 +0200
 
I love the newer 5.1 options with the DND options. Personally I understand android and had no problem figuring out what priority was for. For some it will be confusing, as there are so many options, but that is what android is all about- Complete flexibility.


That being said, you resurrected an old, dusty thread from March...
 
I got around your problem with a bit less trouble.

I have MacroDroid installed, and created a few macros that will Reset the Volume levels of different Android noise makers to any level you wish.

ie, when the screen is locked, MD notes that, and ramps up the Ringer Volume to Max.
when the screen is Unlocked, MD notes that, and resets all of the different volumes to what I need.

You use sliders to set the level on each of the different things that you want to hear, or not hear.

I have one set for 10PM, it mutes the entire phone but excludes the Alarm Clock.
I now get some sleep w/o annoying beeps in the night to tell me that UPS has a package to be delivered today at 4 PM.... why they do that at 12:01 AM is something I cannot understand.

With Lollipop, no app can turn DATA on/off anymore.... a thing that irks me to no end... unless you root the phone. So, I have a Macro that notes the screen is locked and it Talks to me, and says "Turn DATA off".... I keep forgetting to turn it off.... and then the battery gets wasted for no good reason.


.* MacroDroid - Device Automation - Android Apps on Google Play
 
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