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Looked at the incredible.

I have to say this thread hasn't turned out all that bad.
There were to or 3 members that got real defensive early on... which of course takes us back to the pre-2.1 days... when the haters where swearing up and down that we were never gonna get 2.1 and EOL was coming and.. well.. we remember.

Is it safe to say those days are over?

I only mention this because it seems since 2.1 did come... and Verizon did not abandon the Eris... most seem a lot more willing to actually talk about the Incredible in a positive way without threads having to be locked down.

Has a truce been reached between Eris and Incredible owners?
 
Im headed to Verizon in just a few minutes with my daughter who wants to purchase the Incredible, Im looking forward to seeing this phone in person, it could be my next phone unless of course there is something bigger, faster and better in a few months.

I was interested in the iPhone on Verizon but now since owning the Eris, not so much. I really like what HTC/Google/Verizon have created in these phones! Just my thoughts..
 
CalifJewls said:
Im headed to Verizon in just a few minutes with my daughter who wants to purchase the Incredible, Im looking forward to seeing this phone in person, it could be my next phone unless of course there is something bigger, faster and better in a few months.

I was interested in the iPhone on Verizon but now since owning the Eris, not so much. I really like what HTC/Google/Verizon have created in these phones! Just my thoughts..
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There will always be something bigger, better, and faster in the technology world in a few months. Heck the Evo that is coming on Sprint is already better than the Incredible minus the crappy network. The new Iphone will be better than the Incredible in some and then I'm sure HTC or Motorola will leapfrog that. That is technology for you.

This advance drive some people crazy. Hence why some people trade up for phones every six months or buy a new car every two years. Me on the other hand like to be different and enjoy things till they break. I have a first gen ipod Nano, 6 year old car, 7 year old computer, and an outdated Eris and guess what, I love them all and don't want to change.
 
SoulWeaponry said:
Are we really trying to make your hip 'ol grandma the posterchild of smartphones? I know she probably listens to lady gaga and thinks she's awesome and everything, but I think the jitterbug comment is out of place for this context. We're not telling people with flip phones to get an incredible or whatever else. Some of us are saying the incredible would be a better buy because it does what you already want in the eris so much better. For smartphone users, it's not totally unreasonable to say "this one's newer and better, you might like it and be less annoyed with it than the eris".

I'd even say most of us on here don't have a smartphone because we have the most basic of needs. Who on here got an eris to use it as a calculator? If someone has the money to get something newer and better and they just don't know too much about this new phone called "the incredible", it's not being overbearing or pushy to suggest getting it. It's being helpful
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Okay...first of all...what the hell is the hip ole grandma thing about? I'm not getting that at all.

I didn't call you unreasonable for making such a suggestion. If someone asks me, I'm gonna ask them if they are willing to spend a couple hundred. If they say yes, then I suggest they get an Inc. If they need to get in cheap but want a good smartphone, I'd tell them to get an Eris. Honestly, I'm not sure if I will buy another non-vanilla phone again. This whole deal of having to wait for HTC to make their Sense work with the latest Google Android version pisses me off. That's me though. I'm not asking another person to be pissed off.
 
bjanow said:
I've been scouring the boards for another but haven't found one at the right price yet. ($125 ...2.1 OTA.. hint) So what do you make of that? I have a DI and yes, it's blindingly fast. But I love my Eris.
Now for the OP and others, understand this is totally subjective. Take it for what it's worth.
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If you go to the Verizon site and search "Certified Pre Owned" you will find a page listing the devices and an 800 number to call. I called and the Eris is selling for 169.99. It is a refurb with a 1 year warranty. You can buy 1 a year and not have to burn a New Every Two.

I had the Inc for 2 weeks and was very VERY worried about it breaking from 1 drop or it getting a cracked screen in my pocket. I am picking up the refurb Eris and waiting to burn my new every two on the Inc's replacement.
 
Comparing the Eris to the Incredible is just a bit more interesting than say, comparing the cheaper 3G to the 3GS (when the 3GS was released). They both have the same chassis, wheras the Eris and Incredible have noticeably different physical attributes.

I bought my Eris April 17th, knowing that the Incredible was just around the corner.

One, it was $30, the Incredible is $200. Two, now that Eris is on 2.1, they do the same damn thing. Three, it's more compact and more attractive.

Speed? A computer is only as fast as you think it is, and Processors never linearly improve in speed. I won't doubt that the Incredible is faster, because I'm sure it is, but I had to ask myself if $170 extra was worth it when the phone had not one more useability factor.

stupid stupid

I will admit, I would have liked a physically larger screen, but the enhanced resolution isn't utilized by Android.

The quality of a camera depends soley on the quality of its lense. At this dimunitive size, an enhanced image processor from an already more-than-adequate 5MP processor isn't doing much, besides consuming more memory per photo. I would have gotten the Motorola Droid if I demanded the best quality video recording.
 
cableguynoe said:
I have to say this thread hasn't turned out all that bad.
There were to or 3 members that got real defensive early on... which of course takes us back to the pre-2.1 days... when the haters where swearing up and down that we were never gonna get 2.1 and EOL was coming and.. well.. we remember.

Is it safe to say those days are over?

I only mention this because it seems since 2.1 did come... and Verizon did not abandon the Eris... most seem a lot more willing to actually talk about the Incredible in a positive way without threads having to be locked down.

Has a truce been reached between Eris and Incredible owners?
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I would assume so. Anyone that says that the Incredible sucks in every way and the Eris is far superior is pretty damn ignorant. Anyone that says the Eris sucks and tell everyone "to turn in the POS" to get an Incredible is just aa idiot troll. It just amazes me how people can get so defensive of their device and say the new one is a ripoff, and at the same time, the others just start attacking owners of a previous device and claiming it sucks and a horrible phone because of the fact its older.
 
Demache said:
I would assume so. Anyone that says that the Incredible sucks in every way and the Eris is far superior is pretty damn ignorant. Anyone that says the Eris sucks and tell everyone "to turn in the POS" to get an Incredible is just aa idiot troll. It just amazes me how people can get so defensive of their device and say the new one is a ripoff, and at the same time, the others just start attacking owners of a previous device and claiming it sucks and a horrible phone because of the fact its older.
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I agree. I loved my Eris but after playing with an Incredible I knew it was the phone for me. The bigger screen and faster speed made it much less frustrating to use and a lot easier to type in my opinion. Don't get me wrong the Eris isn't a bad phone, my girlfriend loves hers, but I think many "power users" were constantly looking for ways to "amp up the power" on their Eris. I used to troll the Eris forums looking for ways to speed it up. Now I just look at the Incredible forums to see what apps are sweet.

The Eris was smaller so fit nicer in my hand, but I didn't get a smartphone to be small I got it to be useful. One big difference I noticed is before iPhone users never looked twice at my Eris, now I definitely have people asking to check out my Inc and many think it's pretty sweet. Already sold 5 of my coworkers on Inc's but they all came from Blackberry's so that was easy. To each their own!

But yeah I feel like you can't exactly compare the phones. One was close to free while the other was $200. That's like comparing an E class Lexus to a GS. Can't do it. One is entry level, the other is for performance. Two different markets.
 
But the eris is so slow....
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In all honesty, we have lost all perspective on what "slow"is. I guess coming from the days when downloading a 60 KILOBYTE file over a 2400 baud modem was an evening-long affair, the Eris isn't all that slow to me.

Sent from my Eris using Tapatalk
 
Tarheel_Rambler said:
In all honesty, we have lost all perspective on what "slow"is. I guess coming from the days when downloading a 60 KILOBYTE file over a 2400 baud modem was an evening-long affair, the Eris isn't all that slow to me.

Sent from my Eris using Tapatalk
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Speed is all relative. Yes there was a day when 2400 baud modems were fast. When 56k modems came out though, 2400's were much slower by comparison. So the comparison being made here is between the Eris and the Incredible, which obviously have different hardware. Sure I can compare the Eris to an Apple II and it looks amazing, but what kind of comparison is that? Not sure if I get that. The only bad part about the Eris is I was looking for ways to speed it up even when I had no other comparison. Android 2.2 will most likely help it a lot with the improved MFLOPS.
 
The common thread, despite how people feel about either phone, seems to be cost. Let's face it, cost is a big deal even though many of us know that if you are going to keep a phone for two years, you should spare little expense. When convincing my girlfriend to move to a smartphone, there was the Eris and the Moto Droid. I convinced her on the Droid, but she was very resistant at first because of the $200 cost. She would tell me, "No way in hell I'm paying $200 for a phone!" Well, I convinced her, but that's because I know enough to help her realize the benefit.

The thing is...her phone is giving her hell. I'm thinking about taking it off her hands and getting her to try my Eris. She has made lots of comment about the simplicity of my Sense interface. I wouldn't mind having a phone to root and have fun with. Looks like the Eris just isn't going to see its day on that front.
 
danielevans83 said:
Speed is all relative. Yes there was a day when 2400 baud modems were fast. When 56k modems came out though, 2400's were much slower by comparison. So the comparison being made here is between the Eris and the Incredible, which obviously have different hardware. Sure I can compare the Eris to an Apple II and it looks amazing, but what kind of comparison is that? Not sure if I get that. The only bad part about the Eris is I was looking for ways to speed it up even when I had no other comparison. Android 2.2 will most likely help it a lot with the improved MFLOPS.
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My main point is that we have lost all patience because of the advances in technology. Case in point are the people that drive 55 or 60 MPH through town in order to save themselves about 2 minutes total. It just doesn't make sense in the long run. We're spoiled. Just an observation, really...not an indictment.
 
Tarheel_Rambler said:
My main point is that we have lost all patience because of the advances in technology. Case in point are the people that drive 55 or 60 MPH through town in order to save themselves about 2 minutes total. It just doesn't make sense in the long run. We're spoiled. Just an observation, really...not an indictment.
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Blame this on 30 minute tv shows with 14 minutes of ads in them, giving you breaks every 6 or 7 minutes. Our society is definitely "instant satisfaction" driven, with no attention spans, I agree. And when 2.2 comes out people will be crying for 2.3 and the Droid Incredible 2. :) Already have some of my coworkers at work asking me when a "Droid Pad" will come out to compete with Apple. This is weeks after getting their new phone. Yeah. We're all children.
 
alprazolam said:
The common thread, despite how people feel about either phone, seems to be cost. Let's face it, cost is a big deal even though many of us know that if you are going to keep a phone for two years, you should spare little expense. When convincing my girlfriend to move to a smartphone, there was the Eris and the Moto Droid. I convinced her on the Droid, but she was very resistant at first because of the $200 cost. She would tell me, "No way in hell I'm paying $200 for a phone!" Well, I convinced her, but that's because I know enough to help her realize the benefit.

The thing is...her phone is giving her hell. I'm thinking about taking it off her hands and getting her to try my Eris. She has made lots of comment about the simplicity of my Sense interface. I wouldn't mind having a phone to root and have fun with. Looks like the Eris just isn't going to see its day on that front.
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When I pay ~$85 a month to own this phone, which is $1020 over 2 years, the purchase price of a few hundred dollars seems negligible to me. If I'm going to pay so much a month for something I at least want that "something" to be one of the fastest and biggest available.

2.1 helped the Eris a LOT. It made me almost think twice about upgrading. I know 2.2 will help it even more and give the last-gen phones a new lease on life.
 
bberryhill0 said:
I found this thread to be quite interesting. I have an Eris and I want to know how the Incredible compares.
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I will tell you why I returned the Incredible to reactivate the Eris, so you can compare the 2.

I was running 2.1v1 when I went to the incredible. So for comparative purposes, I had most of the software advantages of the Incredible, so for me that was a wash.

I used my NE2 to upgrade. I found the Incredible to have a fantastic, larger screen. it was crisp and clear and the keyboard was slightly easier to type on because of the screen size. It was significantly, noticeably faster than the Eris, due to the snapdragon processor. There is no question it is faster and with a better screen.

However, I really missed my Eris once I switched. I am outside a great deal of the time. Neither of these phones is a great performer on a bright day - you just can't see the screen well. I found that with the DI I could not see the screen to accept phone calls as they came in. I use my phone a lot as, well, as phone - and I could not rationalize not being able to answer my phone. I found that I really, really, really missed the physical call buttons and will never have another phone that I can't answer with one.

I also found that the additional size on the DI (giving me that big screen) made the phone just clunky enough, just big enough, that I can't slide it easily into my pocket. I missed the feel and size of the Eris. This is also a key feature for me, as I am again very active and outside a great deal.

I have found that if I manage my phone properly, I can keep any lag to a very manageable minimum. I have not had any bugs to speak of on my Eris, so for ME (maybe not for you), the increased size and speed was not worth losing the "fit in my pocket" perfection and the physical buttons. To lose my NE2 for what to me was not a huge improvement was absolutely not worth it.

I think the Eris is a great phone. The DI is also a great phone. I believe they have so many choices so that you can meet the needs of everyone.
 
dcfan99 said:
I think the Eris is a great phone. The DI is also a great phone. I believe they have so many choices so that you can meet the needs of everyone.
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I agree. Some like the Eris cause of small size and physical buttons, some the DI cause of speed and screen size, some like MotoDroid for the keyboard/lack of Sense UI. This is the best thing about Android, that we can all get it in our own "flavor".
 
It's weird when I see people talking about how they like the Eris because it's smaller than the Incredible because when I look at the dimension specs, the difference in size seems so minimal. I guess it's more evident when you actually have each one in your hand. Having only played with each phone at a VZW store, it's hard to really tell the difference when i'm holding them there because of that security device thing that's attached to the back of each phone to prevent theft. Doesn't really let you hold it in your palm so you can get an accurate feel for the difference.

Myself, I keep going back and forth between which one to get. Everytime I think i've settled on getting the Eris for cost purposes, I keep talking myself out of it. Whlile I don't think I need the speed benefits now, i'm worried I will want them eventually if I find that I end up using the phone for more than I think I will at this moment. And I would hate for the next two years to keep saying you should have gotten the faster one. But then I think if I want the Incredible, i'm going to have to wait awhile because everyone is out of stock for at least a month and debating this in my head for the next month or so will drive me nuts. So then I go back to the Eris until I get on this forum and read about all the people having trouble with phone calls since the 2.1 update. So I go back to the Incredible, but oh yeah I forgot, I would have to wait for another month your two before I could get that one and who knows what new phone might be out in a month or two. So than I think maybe a nice in between decision would be the Moto Droid, except I don't like the weight of that one and it's just plain ugly to look at, but it does have that nice car mount and charging dock that turns the phone into a digital clock at night.

I really do hate complicated decisions or at least making easy decisions complicated...... :)
 
danielevans83 said:
Speed is all relative. Yes there was a day when 2400 baud modems were fast. When 56k modems came out though, 2400's were much slower by comparison. So the comparison being made here is between the Eris and the Incredible, which obviously have different hardware. Sure I can compare the Eris to an Apple II and it looks amazing, but what kind of comparison is that? Not sure if I get that. The only bad part about the Eris is I was looking for ways to speed it up even when I had no other comparison. Android 2.2 will most likely help it a lot with the improved MFLOPS.
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<sigh> I remember coveting a snazzy new 1200 baud modem.
 
flyinjoe13 said:
It's weird when I see people talking about how they like the Eris because it's smaller than the Incredible because when I look at the dimension specs, the difference in size seems so minimal.
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I agree with you, which is why I had no problem ordering it initially. But in the end, I think the Eris size is just about as big as I want it to be, so even only a little bit bigger was a problem for me. Also, it is shaped differently - the DI is more square, the Eris had rounded corners, which takes up a little more room. And the back of the Eris is just smoother and slides more easily - I don't know how to describe it other than that - but it is a noticeable difference in size and in form. The DI did not feel "cheap" to me, which I've seen posted elsewhere - but the word is more clunky. Just bigger.

I also thought of one more thing about it, with the loss of the physical buttons on the front, you had to push the power button on the top left of the DI to put it to sleep. That was awkward for me and I had difficulty just quickly putting it to sleep with one hand. I am in the habit of putting my phone to sleep when I am done with it to maximize battery (I can get well over 24 hours out of a charge) - and I found the position of this button awkward.
 
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