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Marijuana Legalized in Washington and Colorado

I'm of the belief that the new state laws will start us on the road to legalization. Politicians are held hostage by special interest groups and the extremists in their parties. Alcohol and drug companies want no part of making marijuana legal because it will cut into their bottom lines. As states take it upon themselves to start the process, we'll reach a tipping point where public opinion makes it next to impossible for Washington to oppose it.

Legalization will add revenue and cut down on crime associated with the growing and selling of the crop.
 
copestag said:
well as someone with no stake in it either way...... I'll make an observation that could be good for either side of the argument

as the old saying goes........ crap or get off the pot (no pun intended here)

how many times are we going to see a state pass a law in direct conflict with federal law...... and the federal govt turn a blind eye?

this is no different than DADT, sanctuary cities, deviant marriage, etc

if the fed is going to sit by and ignore the laws by allowing states to do as they please then they should get rid of the laws

so one of two things should happen here by the fed.......... they should either completely decriminalize marijuana use OR they should enforce the law the same way they enforce things like the legal drinking age....... withhold all funds to any state who violates federal law
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Federal funds don't matter to some States. I give you Nevada as the number one example. Gambling and prostitution are legal, in conflict with federal laws, so they don't receive federal funding. Do you see the govt ruining Nevada? It has been 50+ years now.

Funny thing is, weed/hemp could bring the US more textile, factory and farming jobs than any other single job creation act a President could sign. I predict that Obama will end the so called war on pot in his last year and be credited with creating billions in taxes and millions of new jobs for the US.
 
Little doubt that Mr Mormon, Mitt Romney, who has never even tried caffeine, would have taken a harder line approach on this issue than Obama likely will.
 
Nevada was going to be another discussion point for me but I was beaten to it! LOL either way, I'm also in the first step to legalization camp myself, and I totally agree with the positive impact on domestic industry.
 
Covart said:
Federal funds don't matter to some States. I give you Nevada as the number one example. Gambling and prostitution are legal, in conflict with federal laws, so they don't receive federal funding. Do you see the govt ruining Nevada? It has been 50+ years now.

Funny thing is, weed/hemp could bring the US more textile, factory and farming jobs than any other single job creation act a President could sign. I predict that Obama will end the so called war on pot in his last year and be credited with creating billions in taxes and millions of new jobs for the US.
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With all respect, anyone who thinks legalising Marijuana will create millions of jobs has been smoking too much of it. Legalisation could create a lot of jobs, but not millions, ie more than 2 million.
 
cmybliss said:
I'm of the belief that the new state laws will start us on the road to legalization. Politicians are held hostage by special interest groups and the extremists in their parties. Alcohol and drug companies want no part of making marijuana legal because it will cut into their bottom lines. As states take it upon themselves to start the process, we'll reach a tipping point where public opinion makes it next to impossible for Washington to oppose it.

Legalization will add revenue and cut down on crime associated with the growing and selling of the crop.
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I don't necessarily agree with that. If marijuana was legal tomorrow, the cigarette companies and drug companies would likely be the ones farming, selling and distributing it. They've got the infrastructure in place to do so. I don't think public opinion is anywhere close to a tipping point on this though.
 
A.Nonymous said:
I don't necessarily agree with that. If marijuana was legal tomorrow, the cigarette companies and drug companies would likely be the ones farming, selling and distributing it. They've got the infrastructure in place to do so. I don't think public opinion is anywhere close to a tipping point on this though.
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I would agree that the tobacco companies would be the first on the farming band wagon, but I'm not sure about the drug companies. It would interfere with the sale of marinol(? Sp) as well as pain meds.

As for the alcohol companies, they see pott as a direct competitor. Do you know who the biggest opponent of the Colorado law was? You guessed it, Anheuser-Busch. They want people drinking bud to get that rocky mountain high, not smoking it.
 
Covart said:
Federal funds don't matter to some States. I give you Nevada as the number one example. Gambling and prostitution are legal, in conflict with federal laws, so they don't receive federal funding. Do you see the govt ruining Nevada? It has been 50+ years now.
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not sure where you got that information.....but its ablsolutely incorrect..... Nevada absolutely receives federal funding in every form every other state receives..... they just happen to be receiving less than other states because of their own inadequacies............ and yes...... Nevada is a craphole because of it......... youve obviously never been out side of Las Vegas if you think otherwise
 
The fact that so many people have given up and feel the need to use chemical help to either solve their problems, feel "normal" or "fit-in" is just pathetic. That...and people bitch and complain about how bad gun violence in this country when the violence is so closely tied to substance abuse. And now you want to legalize it all? WTF?
 
JohnLaird said:
The fact that so many people have given up and feel the need to use chemical help to either solve their problems, feel "normal" or "fit-in" is just pathetic. That...and people bitch and complain about how bad gun violence in this country when the violence is so closely tied to substance abuse. And now you want to legalize it all? WTF?
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I've never seen weed make a person violent. If anything it makes people more mellow and lazy. I wouldn't want legalization to go any further than marijuana. But aren't you conservative types the ones who are always bitching about getting the government out of peoples lives? Marijuana is much less destructive than other things that are legal, such as alcohol and gambling. The casinos popping up everywhere are far more damaging to society than someone sitting on their couch smoking a joint.
 
JohnLaird said:
I take it you've never encountered someone who dosed a joint with embalming fluid or something else?
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No, personally I haven't. Is that a common thing, and would it necessarily increase if marijuana was legal? People will always find a way to abuse anything. There are people who get high from spray paint and gasoline.
 
I lived in Washington State for a year back in 2010. They already had dispensaries, but like every other place that has them the local law enforcement didn't care. But the DEA did, and they would show up and shut the places down.

Much like I see happening in the future.
 
BrianJB said:
I lived in Washington State for a year back in 2010. They already had dispensaries, but like every other place that has them the local law enforcement didn't care. But the DEA did, and they would show up and shut the places down.

Much like I see happening in the future.
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I can see them having weed tours up there for tourists, like they have winery tours in the Napa Valley.
 
Gmash said:
I can see them having weed tours up there for tourists, like they have winery tours in the Napa Valley.
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People swirling around their bowls, smelling the aroma...Commenting to their friends "this one has a fresh earthy smell, with a nice fruit taste"
 
JohnLaird said:
The fact that so many people have given up and feel the need to use chemical help to either solve their problems, feel "normal" or "fit-in" is just pathetic. That...and people bitch and complain about how bad gun violence in this country when the violence is so closely tied to substance abuse. And now you want to legalize it all? WTF?
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Legalization means it can be controlled by the authorities, better than when everything's happening within criminal circles. It's correct that use of marihuana makes people mellow, not violent. Think of what happened in "Flower Power" years??
 
Would u all mind incraesin ur font s? Having a litle trbl here in Coloraado reeding what yu:smokingsomb: posted.
 
Well, now the stoners in Colorado are protesting having to pay taxes on their weed lol. Smoke your free joint and relax, why do you think they legalized it?:smokingsomb: Who knew the hippies and the Tea Partiers had so much in common?:p

Colorado: Hundreds Line Up For Free Joints In Marijuana Tax Protest | Hemp News

Hundreds of excited people
lined up in Denver's Civic Center
Park on Monday to get a free
joint, as part of a protest against
Colorado's plan to heavily tax
recreational marijuana.
The protest was courtesy of the
No On Proposition AA campaign, which opposes a plan calling for a 10 percent
sales tax on recreational cannabis with the option of going as high as 15
percent (with an additional 15 percent excise tax), reports CBS Denver .
According to spokesman Robert Corry, an attorney who represents clients in the
medical marijuana business, state leaders are backing a plan that over-taxes
cannabis sales, and that's not what voters approved when they passed
Amendment 64 last November.
"We have one of the leading alcohol industries in the world here in our state
with less than a one percent tax," Corry said. "That's what the marijuana tax
ought to be. That's what we support."
Supporters of Proposition AA, including Denver City Councilman Charlie Brown,
claim the money is necessary for "proper regulation" of cannabis.
"We will all be affected by this industry and we need to be ready for it --
administratively, from the police perspective and from a public health
perspective, and that's what we need this money for," Brown claimed.
Police were closely watching those gathered for the anti-tax protest rally at
midday on Monday. People were asked by rally organizers to provide an ID to
prove they were 21 or older before they could get one of the free joints.
A CBS4 crew in the park saw no arrests and witnessed numerous people openly
smoking marijuana. Under Colorado's new legalization law, public cannabis
consumption is still illegal, and users must be at least 21.
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