Root [Merit] ROM toolbox Pro

[nickdalzell]

Curious, since I quite easily removed all the carrier bloatware and such from the Merit with this app, plus reduced VM heap size, improved memory management, and sped the phone up. Is it possible to install cyanogen mod with this program? It shows a ROM in there for it, what are the possibilities? I made a backup in case it fails but is it possible?

 

[jamespfassett]

Id hate to encourage you to try somthng that might mess up your phone, but an incompatable rom would just bootloop. If it bootloops, just pull the battery and boot into recovery. Once you restore a backup youll be fine.

 

[out of ideas]

I got toolbox lite. It just has an empty nightlies foldet. Whats the rom you see.

 

[stayboogy]

there's no cyanogenmod for our phone. trust me, i have the sdk and it has all the files so that you can build and customize the rom from source for every supported device. it doesn't exist for the merit/avail.

and from my work, it won't exist anytime soon.

there's really no point in it anyway. i've personally seen all it does and it's nothing that can't be done by just customizing the rom that's on there stock...

 

[nickdalzell]

I actually like the rom personally and would love to have it on my phone. Looks and spec wise there is not much about it that differs from my old Opt V which had CM7.1 installed. So it would be a shame to be without it.

It gives different options for stuff that is hidden in stock rooms like turning off 3G but not data. Currently I can only turn off data entirely but not just 3G. Many other reasons I like it. Besides, all stock roms as of yet all randomly reboot many times a day unless I use airplane mode. I think the stock roms are unstable..

 

[redfield88]

I actually like the rom personally and would love to have it on my phone. Looks and spec wise there is not much about it that differs from my old Opt V which had CM7.1 installed. So it would be a shame to be without it.

It gives different options for stuff that is hidden in stock rooms like turning off 3G but not data. Currently I can only turn off data entirely but not just 3G. Many other reasons I like it. Besides, all stock roms as of yet all randomly reboot many times a day unless I use airplane mode. I think the stock roms are unstable..

Never had any issue with my stock rom. Never once "phantom" booted even though many others have experienced this issue. I use my phone actively and with the stock rom slimmed down I haven't had any issues.

 

[nickdalzell]

I did some tweaks with this app that's reduced the frequency of the restarts but it does it two or three times a day. Rooted or otherwise all stock roms do this. According to a logcat, the modem crashes causing a kernel panic followed by a sys reboot. This explains why in airplane mode with or without wifi it never happens. It is a problem with the rom and it's communication with the cellular radio

However I have been a fan of cyanogen mod for some time...certainly a way exists for this phone to use it. I cannot imagine what prevents it from being a possibility, seeing as the specs are on par with my Optimus V, would be a shame to only have variations of stock roms instead of true custom stuff

 

[Russ71]

I'm running slimmed stock z990, and never had a phantom reboot. In fact, I never heard of it happening until someone posted about it a few months ago. Most of the reports have come from the z990g though. Which suggests, the phones aren't as similar as was suggested.

 

[jamespfassett]

It is a hardware problem, not a software problem,.

One day soon we might have cyanogenmod ported to this phone and you will have more options for configuring your phone, but the option to use a different modem wil not be present, and your problem will most likely persist.

One thing I would have you try is to run the supercharger starter kit and V6 supercharger scripts, and then select the Rock Hard (Nobody Panic!) kernel option.
There is really nothin to lose.

EDIT - Though if its the ability to toggle stuff that you're after, this is what you need...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.painless.pc&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd
It is pretty sweet, I think I am going to start cooking this right into my roms...

 

[stayboogy]

I did some tweaks with this app that's reduced the frequency of the restarts but it does it two or three times a day. Rooted or otherwise all stock roms do this. According to a logcat, the modem crashes causing a kernel panic followed by a sys reboot. This explains why in airplane mode with or without wifi it never happens. It is a problem with the rom and it's communication with the cellular radio

However I have been a fan of cyanogen mod for some time...certainly a way exists for this phone to use it. I cannot imagine what prevents it from being a possibility, seeing as the specs are on par with my Optimus V, would be a shame to only have variations of stock roms instead of true custom stuff

regarding cyanogemod:

first and foremost, cyanogenmod is nothing. it's only slimmed, includes a few apps, wallpapers, bootanimations, and rom-manager. what's so fantastic about that??? nothing. you can do everything that is offered in cyanogenmod yourself without installing a whole new rom, which isn't "new" or "custom" because it's built from stock files on the phone. it pulls a majority of stock files in order to build cyanogenmod.

also it's not that custom because it is reproduced from phone to phone.

and it is possible for our phone, but until you or someone else builds some prerequisite files, custom builds some drivers, and mass edits various .mk files, it's never going to be produced. i'm not going to tinker with it anymore because it's not that cool or fantastic to begin with...

i've personally got the sdk and have seen what goes into builds and it's nothing worth the time. i can get it all without cyanogenmod, if i wanted it. you want the apps and wallpapers and stuff, just download those particular repos from github yourself and then install them on your phone. that's all you have to do.

regarding the reboots:

you seem to be the only one complaining and having such a problem with it which tells me it's your phone and not them all.

mine did it maybe twice when i first got it. never since.

the boards are not full of people complaining so it's not that common of a thing. it's also probably not hardware related but is instead permission related just like the "obtaining ip address" loop that some experience across various devices and manufacturers.

just because you believe cyanogenmod or another rom is going to fix it doesn't mean it will. it most likely won't because a rom is going to be built off of stock files that control the hardware and how it operates anyway.

i suggest you investigate the files that control the modem and try to see if the permissions are messed up, or see if you have deleted something you shouldn't have, which user error is the most common problem for everything. then if all else fails get another phone.

 

[zajchik]

Do the same thing goes for CM9 and
CM10.
What going on with JB? There has to be
some way to port on our devices?

 

[nickdalzell]

honestly i understand Stayboogy's opinion but i always liked Cyanogen myself. while it may or may not fix my rebooting problem the point is it enables menus that are hidden in the stock ROM. for example, it unhides the 'use 2g networks' option under mobile network settings. all current rooted and stock Merit ROMs have that feature hidden, so when i'm in a fringe 3G area and not near a wifi, my phone constantly switches between Edge and 3G. i want to keep data enabled when i'm not close enough to a public wifi hotspot without being forced into auto 3G mode. i honestly don't need the speed. Cyanogen has that toggle built in where i can disable 3G but keep Edge or GPRS (if available) and maintain my data connection when not close to a wifi. i have not been able to find any way to enable that option as of yet in the stock ROM. and among that feature, Cyanogen offered me tons of options i either would have to track down myself or never be able to use in the stock Merit. and i know i'm not the only one who would love to see a port to this phone...even the Blade has it...and the Blade isn't that different as far as tier/price level of smartphones go...

there are apps that can turn off data entirely or enable wifi...but i want to force 2G mode only and maintain data, and not need wifi. and i know you can use a dialer trick to force 2G but that only holds out until my phone reboots again and then the setting is lost and i have to manually change it over and over again...that's not good enough....

 

[stayboogy]

honestly i understand Stayboogy's opinion but i always liked Cyanogen myself. while it may or may not fix my rebooting problem the point is it enables menus that are hidden in the stock ROM. for example, it unhides the 'use 2g networks' option under mobile network settings. all current rooted and stock Merit ROMs have that feature hidden, so when i'm in a fringe 3G area and not near a wifi, my phone constantly switches between Edge and 3G. i want to keep data enabled when i'm not close enough to a public wifi hotspot without being forced into auto 3G mode. i honestly don't need the speed. Cyanogen has that toggle built in where i can disable 3G but keep Edge or GPRS (if available) and maintain my data connection when not close to a wifi. i have not been able to find any way to enable that option as of yet in the stock ROM. and among that feature, Cyanogen offered me tons of options i either would have to track down myself or never be able to use in the stock Merit. and i know i'm not the only one who would love to see a port to this phone...even the Blade has it...and the Blade isn't that different as far as tier/price level of smartphones go...

there are apps that can turn off data entirely or enable wifi...but i want to force 2G mode only and maintain data, and not need wifi. and i know you can use a dialer trick to force 2G but that only holds out until my phone reboots again and then the setting is lost and i have to manually change it over and over again...that's not good enough....

those things are not just enabled because cyanogenmod makes it possible. the options actually have to be present for the phone itself, and from the looks of it they are not possible with our phones...

so again, cyanogenmod is not going to do what you hope it will.

 

[nickdalzell]

I would like to at least try

 

[stayboogy]

I would like to at least try

install launcherpro, long press a empty part of screen, choose shortcuts, then choose activities, then choose the various things listed. you can make shortcuts to many things that you can't get to otherwise.

and what you are looking for isn't present.

it isn't possible with the phone itself and it has nothing to do with the rom...

 

[nickdalzell]

Cyanomod is more than just a set of apps and wallpapers. putting a CM 7 wallpaper, some boot animations and apps just makes it a rip-off and a lookalike. it's like making MS Windows look and act like MacOS X. believe me i done it. it doesn't change what it is. it may LOOK like it but it will never BE it. Cyanomod was and is my favorite companion to my love of Gingerbread Android. it enables a lot of settings often hidden by the carrier, manufacturer. for example i just fired up my Kindle Fire which has Cyanomod on it (lucky Fire) and there are a lot of often hidden settings showing, such as 'use 2G networks, saves battery' but of course are greyed out because they don't exist on the tablet (no cellular, 3G or anything of the sort) but the menus show. when i first rooted and installed a new launcher on stock Gingerbread on the Fire, those hidden menus (like the use 2G networks) were not even there. it was either turn on wifi or turn it off. that was it.

the thing is there are things i and many others like about Cyanomod and i'm determined to get a version for the Merit somehow. it would be a deal breaker to not have it. it has a built-in CPU clocking tool (avoids the need for a separate app to do the job which saves internal storage space) and a ton of other tools. when i first had it on my Optimus V (which i may go back to if i cannot ever get it on the Merit) i found a lot of features that didn't exist on the stock Virgin Mobile ROM that it came with (phone was out of box with an old version of Froyo, Cyanomod gave me Gingerbread which became my favorite version after, and a ton of features that are either carrier-hidden in stock ROMs or nonexistant, such as wifi tethering). so i respect your views on how 'worthless' YOU think Cyanomod is, but to me it's one of the best ROMs out there. there is no way i can enable what Cyanomod does in the stock ROM. sure, i can change the boot animation and wallpaper, install apps to do what CM has built-in, but in the end it's still a limited, slightly modified, many menus blocked/inaccessible by carrier--stock ROM that looks pretty, may have a faster kernel, some ICS blue, and is rooted. it's still a stock ROM. and looking like Cyanomod and being Cyanomod are not the same. Windows can look like MacOS, but it's still Windows. iOS 6 can even be made to resemble Android, but it's still iOS 6

 

[stayboogy]

Cyanomod is more than just a set of apps and wallpapers. putting a CM 7 wallpaper, some boot animations and apps just makes it a rip-off and a lookalike. it's like making MS Windows look and act like MacOS X. believe me i done it. it doesn't change what it is. it may LOOK like it but it will never BE it. Cyanomod was and is my favorite companion to my love of Gingerbread Android. it enables a lot of settings often hidden by the carrier, manufacturer. for example i just fired up my Kindle Fire which has Cyanomod on it (lucky Fire) and there are a lot of often hidden settings showing, such as 'use 2G networks, saves battery' but of course are greyed out because they don't exist on the tablet (no cellular, 3G or anything of the sort) but the menus show. when i first rooted and installed a new launcher on stock Gingerbread on the Fire, those hidden menus (like the use 2G networks) were not even there. it was either turn on wifi or turn it off. that was it.

the thing is there are things i and many others like about Cyanomod and i'm determined to get a version for the Merit somehow. it would be a deal breaker to not have it. it has a built-in CPU clocking tool (avoids the need for a separate app to do the job which saves internal storage space) and a ton of other tools. when i first had it on my Optimus V (which i may go back to if i cannot ever get it on the Merit) i found a lot of features that didn't exist on the stock Virgin Mobile ROM that it came with (phone was out of box with an old version of Froyo, Cyanomod gave me Gingerbread which became my favorite version after, and a ton of features that are either carrier-hidden in stock ROMs or nonexistant, such as wifi tethering). so i respect your views on how 'worthless' YOU think Cyanomod is, but to me it's one of the best ROMs out there. there is no way i can enable what Cyanomod does in the stock ROM. sure, i can change the boot animation and wallpaper, install apps to do what CM has built-in, but in the end it's still a limited, slightly modified, many menus blocked/inaccessible by carrier--stock ROM that looks pretty, may have a faster kernel, some ICS blue, and is rooted. it's still a stock ROM. and looking like Cyanomod and being Cyanomod are not the same. Windows can look like MacOS, but it's still Windows. iOS 6 can even be made to resemble Android, but it's still iOS 6

regardless of what you think, you're not correct.

i actually have repo/sdk, and have actually built CM7 for our phones, and i'm telling you it's not what you believe it is. there is nothing that's going to open those supposed "hidden" settings you refer to because they aren't on the phone, period. a rom doesn't activate them. chances are it's the adw launcher that makes them available, which can be had without cm7, and it's what comes with cm7. you don't understand at all. cm7 is nothing but apps and wallpapers. it uses actual process files from the phone, it does not rebuild anything.

i understand what you are saying, but you have understand how it's built, and you won't understand anything in that regard unless you actually look at the sdk. which doesn't contain some things that you "know" it does.

you can accept the truth or argue about nothing; it's your call...

but it's not wise to argue when you haven't built it yourself and have no experience with it...

i'm not trying to be rude, but you just don't have all the correct information.

 

[nickdalzell]

i am not trying to be rude either, and perhaps i don't know everything either. but you seem to be determined to convince me that CM isn't worth my time. i know many who think Gingerbread ain't worth anything compared with JB--but in both cases, i disagree. as for the launcher, Go Launcher is running the CM ROM on the Kindle, and i think my old Opt V runs the stock launcher. both devices had many menus that were hidden in stock software, and now show and either are greyed out (if not available) or work (the use 2G networks was hidden in the stock ROM on the Opt V, and worked perfectly fine and showed on the CM 7.1 IHO ROM i later installed after rooting it)

it, like Gingerbread, happens to be one of my favorite softwares. i don't expect my opinion to be shared anyway. but that does not mean i am going to give up. if it won't happen on the Merit, i'll just port my number back to virgin and live with the limited signal.