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mysterioustko said:
When people minimalize "just the screen" being better I think they are really fooling themselves. The screen is the main thing you deal with on the phone. You're not going to push the processor every single day that you use the phone, but you will undoubtedly look at and use the screen each time you use the device. The low resolution gs2 isn't in the same zip code as the GNex. People who bring up the GPU fail to acknowledge that the gpu in the GNex is still quite capable and doesn't struggle to play any game. I'd much rather have nfc, on-screen buttons, and a better screen than a gpu that I will never take full advatage of and little bit better of a processor (though that is debatable how much better the exynos actually is). Add to that the fact that the phone will always be ahead of the gs2 in updates and that there is no overlay skin to concern myself with, I'd say the choice for me is quite simple..GNex.
SN: At this stage in the game, having a low resolution and claiming to be the best phone in the market (if it had ICS) is not quite accurate. At this juncture with qhd and hd screens on the market, I can't back you on the "it would be the best phone argument". The screen is probably the most important feature of a phone because that's what you look at and use each time you use the device. Processors and gpus are great to TALK ABOUT, but in reality none of these processors are slow by any means, nor are the gpu's (and there isn't anything out right now that really pushes the gpus anyway so it's really a moot point). Who cares what a score on a benchmark says, it isn't going to translate into any better of an experience than anything else with a capable processor or cpu. This is the same reason I'm not really concerned with the quads that are on the horizon, because I really don't see anything that's going to truly take advantage of the hardware. I've yet to have any dual core phone I've owned struggle to process anything.
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Could not agree more. My priorities are about 50% display, 30% OS, 20% everything else (assuming reasonable performance everywhere). So much so that I returned my Sprint Epic 4G Touch to wait another couple months for the Galaxy Nexus. In the interim I got a iphone 4s and I'm still debating keeping it just because the display is so damned good. I can't say I'm not disappointed about some of the limitations of the Nexus, but overall I think it's still a better phone. Just my opinion though.
 
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I was curious to know will the LTE Verizon GN be pentaband as well, or just the international version?
 
AndroidifyMe said:
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I was curious to know will the LTE Verizon GN be pentaband as well, or just the international version?
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No question is a dumb question. The Verizon version will only be LTE & CDMA, no GSM radios at all, we think. There might be a surprise or two though when it launches. I can't imagine they would include extra (unused- on Verizon at least) radios to consume resources on it though. I think it will most certainly be optimized for only Verizon's suite of networks.
 
Or you can go buy a pre paid phone stick your sim card in it and have a phone till nexus comes out so you don't have buyers remorse. OR go on craigslist, and buy someones used phone on the cheap.. Sacrifice a little to get what you really want.
 
csreborn said:
The CPU and especially the GPU in the OG GSII are considerably better then the GN, so is the camera. The GN is basically its screen and ICS, if you put ICS on the GSII HD LTE it would easily be the best Android phone on the market.
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not so fast

The GPU is indeded underclocked and its being worked on dont worry. There may even be more of a great suprise for Nexus owners

Google has set the 3D rendering to software rather than Hardware it just takes a single file to be deleted to more than double the 3D scores in quadrant.
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Erm, shouldn't OMAP 4460's SGX be clocked at 384 Mhz? - Page 2 - xda-developers

im dying for a gnex but i really need 32 gig and want lte on att. there's a new LG lte phone for att also that you might want to check out
 
mysterioustko said:
Google wallet isn't officially on the galaxy nexus but we have it ported on there.
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So in other words, the answer to my question is "No, it doesn't launch with Google Wallet." The vast majority of people who purchase these devices aren't going to port anything.

mysterioustko said:
So when my phone comes tomorrow I'll be able to use it to pay for things just as I already do. Just because most phones don't have NFC doesn't mean it isn't useful. Your phone may not have it, but I use it all the time and will be able to continue doing so, sorry but you're the one that's missing out there.
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Okay, you're right, I am missing out. As are millions of others due to NFC not being widely accepted or available yet. Thus my point - it's not a huge advantage to have it on your phone right now. It's just not a compelling selling point.


mysterioustko said:
Also on screen buttons are more versatile. Themes will be coming along that will allow us to change the way they look. Also, there are already mods out now that allow you to change the button layout and how they display. And the extra onscreen space may be negligible to you, but it makes a difference when watching a movie in full screen..especially in HD..but a gs2 owner wouldn't be concerned with that though (low res). I'm not knocking the gs2, but I definitely don't see it as being better than the GNex (hence why I went with a Gnex).
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So you'll be able to customize the look of the buttons, who cares? That's not more functionality. The extra screen real estate is negligible when you have a 4.6" screen, yes. Again, you're missing the point. If you're going to point at a 4.5" screen and then say "Mine's bigger, I have 4.6" you're really not selling the other screen. So again, on screen buttons just aren't a "feature" that creates a compelling argument.

The screen and ICS are the two compelling arguments for the GN over the S2. The other stuff you've mentioned is essentially fluff, and that's okay that it appeals to you. We use these phones for the cool stuff along with the functional stuff.

Someone mentioned that I'm underestimating a better screen, I'm certainly not. I think it's pretty important, but there are degrees to the importance. If the screen were the be all, end all, I guess we should have all gone out and bought the iPhone 4 when it was first released because of Retina Display?
 
Fabolous said:
The CPUs in Exynos and OMAP4 are comparable (both Cortex A9 at 1.2GHz) but Mali-400 is proven to be a higher performing GPU than SGX540.

That's fact, no opinions there. Exynos is superior to OMAP4.

That said, I'd take a GN over an SGS2 any day. The software is superior OOB, development will be abundant, and you will always enjoy the latest version of Android first.
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Then i stand corrected. I don't know a whole lot about the two but was under the impression that the sgx performed better at a higher resolution and did better with HD videos as opposed to the Mali excelling in 3D graphics.

But i can honestly say i haven't invested much time researching the two because the software and Dev support is what I'm interested in.
 
Androidcurious said:
So you'll be able to customize the look of the buttons, who cares? That's not more functionality. The extra screen real estate is negligible when you have a 4.6" screen, yes. Again, you're missing the point. If you're going to point at a 4.5" screen and then say "Mine's bigger, I have 4.6" you're really not selling the other screen. So again, on screen buttons just aren't a "feature" that creates a compelling argument.
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you ARE underestimating the versatility of software buttons. Besides "only customizing the looks" (which is a pretty huge deal by itself that you are discrediting), you can also shift the buttons placements, add buttons, tweak it till you're satisfied. THAT is functionality. MoDaCo's Paul O'Brien Releases Patch For Galaxy Nexus Softkeys With Menu And/Or Search Key Reinstatement

And what Paul did is only the start, there will be more in the future I'm certain of that. I'd like to see ANY hardware buttons able to provide the flexibility that software buttons has. Besides, not having any hardware buttons is one hardware failure to worry about.
 
My Galaxy Nexus arrived today and of course I've been playing around with it. I sold my Nexus S and on ebay and needed to go ship it off, so while I was out I stopped by a cell phone store to play around with a galaxy s2 again. It's funny because up to this point (and bear in mind I have plenty of experience with the galaxy s2) I've always given that screen a lot of credit. However, after today my perspective has officially changed. After physically putting the Galaxy Nexus and the GS2 side to side and looked at the same things side to side (this includes menus, pictures, web browsing, etc), I can never look at the GS2 the same. Whereas, before I thought that even with the low res that the screen was still pretty good. I am now convinced that I wouldn't touch the GS2 at all, after see the GNex screen next to it. The GS2 looks exactly like what it is....low res. This might be fine (as it was for me) if you haven't experienced super amoled hd, but once you've experienced it first hand, it will make you look at the GS2 screen totally differently. My uncle was planning on purchasing a skyrocket, but after seeing my GNex screen he no longer is interested in the low res display and now wants the Galaxy Note (he likes the size). I'm not saying the GS2 has a bad screen by no means, but I will say it doesn't hold a candle to the GNex's screen. It's one of the those things you just have to look at them side by side in person to appreciate the difference in resolution. The GS2 started to look silly displaying so little on the screen at a time, whereas I had a plethora of items being displayed on the GNex.
 
As of today, November 30th, the SGS2 is a better smartphone than the AT&T-branded Galaxy Nexus. Why? It's simple... As of today you can purchase a SGS2 from AT&T for the AT&T network... Unless you want to import a GNex you'll be waiting for it to be released on the AT&T network for an indetermined period of time.

Due to the OP's unfortunate accident, a replacement phone is needed now. Under that circumstance a phone already available to AT&T subscribers will likely be a better choice than one that is not yet available. :cool:

If the OP wants to import a GNex then that changes the parameters of the comparison and adds a somewhat painful price tag to the experience... :)
 
Martimus said:
As of today, November 30th, the SGS2 is a better smartphone than the AT&T-branded Galaxy Nexus. Why? It's simple... As of today you can purchase a SGS2 from AT&T for the AT&T network... Unless you want to import a GNex you'll be waiting for it to be released on the AT&T network for an indetermined period of time.

Due to the OP's unfortunate accident, a replacement phone is needed now. Under that circumstance a phone already available to AT&T subscribers will likely be a better choice than one that is not yet available. :cool:

If the OP wants to import a GNex then that changes the parameters of the comparison and adds a somewhat painful price tag to the experience... :)
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Great point! Availability does play a major role in making a decision. I was in the fortunate circumstance of being able to sell my Nexus S and a Sensation, so my out of pocket cost was very minimal. Of course everyone isn't in the same situation, and everyone isn't willing to import their phone at the full cost.
 
Easy!!

Buy an iPhone 4S on contract for 199 and don't even open it - then sell it on ebay brand new for $600 - then buy the Galaxy Nexus from handtec.co.uk for $690
 
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