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justjimjpc said:
After analizing a conflict spreadsheet and how you implement events in profiles... There is no way I can see that your app would see anything as a conflict ... This is because there is no "End Time" to an event ... the current event will just stay in effect until the start time of any other event occurs.. even if this is only one minute later ...or five days later .... This not a bad thing ... and an eloquent way to handle things.

Therefore I think a graffic display is very important ... so one can see over the whole week/day what state the phone will be in ...
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Jim think a week view of a normal calendar. It might say you are going to be in a meeting from 3-5pm and also during 4-5pm your girlfriend is working out at the gym. Two events you may care about happening that overlap, are shown in a side by side view in a weekly calendar view. I see something like that for us should we decide to implement a visual view.
 
dkaufman1 said:
Jim think a week view of a normal calendar. It might say you are going to be in a meeting from 3-5pm and also during 4-5pm your girlfriend is working out at the gym. Two events you may care about happening that overlap, are shown in a side by side view in a weekly calendar view. I see something like that for us should we decide to implement a visual view.
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Ok ... But you do understand what I am saying about the way events are triggered .... they have an ON trigger ... but no OFF trigger ... they in effect get Off'd by the next event that is triggered ON ....

Hence you can not tell if you have an overlap because the event does know if it was your intention to have the event end at 3pm, 5pm, or 6:13am ...

Thus you are unable to easy know if another event is going to override and start before what was your intention for the end of the current event ...

I hope that makes sense !! :confused:
 
justjimjpc said:
Ok ... But you do understand what I am saying about the way events are triggered .... they have an ON trigger ... but no OFF trigger ... they in effect get Off'd by the next event that is triggered ON ....

Hence you can not tell if you have an overlap because the event does know if it was your intention to have the event end at 3pm, 5pm, or 6:13am ...

Thus you are unable to easy know if another event is going to override and start before what was your intention for the end of the current event ...

I hope that makes sense !! :confused:
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I follow you 100%. As you noted, the elegance of the solution was that conflicts were avoided. This was designed from the start. And while we do have the capability for unlimited profiles in our use case testing it seemed most likely that people would be able to manage their own schedule. Realize what you see as a conflict with an overlap might not be seen that way to others. I do understand your point, and will look into it. We had a lot of users clamoring for multi-profiles and the feedback on this update has been generally pretty good.
 
dkaufman1 said:
I follow you 100%. As you noted, the elegance of the solution was that conflicts were avoided. This was designed from the start. And while we do have the capability for unlimited profiles in our use case testing it seemed most likely that people would be able to manage their own schedule. Realize what you see as a conflict with an overlap might not be seen that way to others. I do understand your point, and will look into it. We had a lot of users clamoring for multi-profiles and the feedback on this update has been generally pretty good.
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I am not suggesting you change multiple profile, muliple events per profile .. this is an eloquent and unlimited variable method to handle any schedule ...

It was just that if there was a way to help display an oversight in schedule ..especially when you have multiple profiles in play ...

There is a saying that I like to quote ...

"A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof; Is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools."
 
Yeah I know the ringer volume and the media like notifications are seperate volumes, which I don't know why I illuded that they where. So I'm a dope. ;)

Is it possible to control the nofications volume as well so they are loud when you want them and lower when you don't?
 
kizer said:
Yeah I know the ringer volume and the media like notifications are seperate volumes, which I don't know why I illuded that they where. So I'm a dope. ;)

Is it possible to control the nofications volume as well so they are loud when you want them and lower when you don't?
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As stated in my previous post ....

justjimjpc said:
To my understanding Ringtones and notification sounds are two different animals, and as notifications are at a fixed volume and are not controlled by the ringer volume.
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dkaufman1 said:
Right...we understand the wishlist. Thanks for the feedback and spending time with assisting us.
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I have not messed with my schedule of events ...

But if I have two events starting at the same time ... with different settings ... which one if either will be executed last and therefore the controlling event ?

These two "sametime events" might be in the same or different profiles ...
 
Jim - the answer is:

Events which have the same time are all executed
together if their profile is active. They are executed in the top-down
direction if you look at the event list on your UI.

Example:
[profile1]
9 AM: mute
9 AM: volume 100%
[profile2]
9 AM: ring (unmute)

The result will be volume 100% and ring at 9 AM.
 
dkaufman1 said:
Jim - the answer is:

Events which have the same time are all executed
together if their profile is active. They are executed in the top-down
direction if you look at the event list on your UI.

Example:
[profile1]
9 AM: mute
9 AM: volume 100%
[profile2]
9 AM: ring (unmute)

The result will be volume 100% and ring at 9 AM.
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Got It !! so the last active profile is the "King of the Road"

BTW: I now have my spreadsheet working (with five events) ...
Easy Pick Active, Time-listbox, Days-CKBoxes, Ring & Vib Ck-Boxes, and Vol cell.

I click and pick and hit the macro process button and the result is a Weeks Calendar showing all of the Active Events... Works pretty nice ... and quickly gives me a visual and if I have any conflicts ...
 
So far for the last 5 days I've been running this app and I've tried all kinds of configurations to try and trick it or break it. It just seems to work and work very well.

Thanks for the app.
 
This is an app i am very excited for if i get an android device. I have read the thread and it seems the developer(s) are very willing to listen to users. What an amazing principle...if only the bigger companies would do it?!
 
kizer said:
So far for the last 5 days I've been running this app and I've tried all kinds of configurations to try and trick it or break it. It just seems to work and work very well.

Thanks for the app.
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This is a well executed program and with careful thought you will have flawless results. However if you have many profiles with several to many events per profile ... it can become easy to overlook time-event conflicts.

I have created an excel sheet to simulate and visually display how this can occur.

The conversation that I and dKaufman (Dave) have been having in this thread has been to highlight the way the app is handling the events..
As well as pointing out possible updates and desired features...

To this end i have attached a screen shot of my excel sheet showing 5 events with conflicts ...
 

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Nothing new just reporting its running flawlessly. Honestly I'm to the point now that I dont even change my settings anymore because its done every day automatically. ;)

Before I'd have it go low at work and loud after work.

Now I have it low at work, loud at lunch then back to low until work is over then loud again.

Throw in a meeting or two through the week and it adjusts for them too. ;)

This is what should of been in the G1 from the start. Now I just hope its ready for the 1.5 firmware or I'll be in trouble when I do update mine.
 
dkaufman1 said:
Jim - the answer is:

Events which have the same time are all executed
together if their profile is active. They are executed in the top-down
direction if you look at the event list on your UI.

Example:
[profile1]
9 AM: mute
9 AM: volume 100%
[profile2]
9 AM: ring (unmute)

The result will be volume 100% and ring at 9 AM.
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BUMP !!! DAVE

What is the latest with the app ... havent seen or heard on any updates or feature additions ... ??

Tkx fpr keeping us advided ...
 
Honestly we got sidetracked with a surprise we are working on for 1.5 Cupcake...I hope we can get it out very soon. And then we will turn our attention towards Timeriffic among other things.

Realize our release dates between major updates last time was quite lengthy, I don't want to set any false expectations. Thanks for the ping.
 
dkaufman1 said:
Honestly we got sidetracked with a surprise we are working on for 1.5 Cupcake...I hope we can get it out very soon. And then we will turn our attention towards Timeriffic among other things.

Realize our release dates between major updates last time was quite lengthy, I don't want to set any false expectations. Thanks for the ping.
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Way cool app. Just installed and configured...
 
1.4 is in the Market -

Cyrket - Timeriffic

Main new addition is the brightness control, which like audio control, is able to be set to a clock timer. You can add brightness to any existing profile action, too.
 
1.5 is out now with wifi and airplane mode added.

As for locale, more programs = more options for android users.
 
Hi, will this work with the Moto Droid?

Also, does it have an option to turn off the wireless devices as well as the ringers to save battery during the night?
 
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