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New Thunderbolt 4G video!
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theacoustician
Android Enthusiast
I smiled so big at "this thing is wicked, wicked fast".
I'm so excited now!
I'm so excited now!
Geezus
spense626
Newbie
I had the Pantech 4G modem for a couple days and it was amazing only reason I returned it was I used up 2 gigs in 2 days just browsing the web and watching live streams / youtube.. I averaged 21 D/L and 10 U/L with 40-50 ms.. if the TB is anything like that with UNLIMITED 4G!! Which it looks like it will be, I am going to be in heaven.
Yep.. Speeds look good. Plus it will be unlimited. (Didn't know if you knew this)
spense626
Newbie
rushmore
Extreme Android User
THIS is a key reason why folks that currently think tiered 4G is "okay, or not that bad", will find out the hard way it is bad.
Just as much as the carriers say unlimited can not be sustained, the drop in revenue when people push back with tiered will not be sustained either.
Carriers are talking crap, since they can just as easily throttle heavy users, rather than hit everybody with tiered. This is a pure money making ploy. Nothing else.
odiej34
Android Enthusiast
rushmore
Extreme Android User
Winmax is a more power hungry and less effective signal than LTE. Anyone that makes points otherwise are wrong from the start, so why worry?
There is a reason Sprint is trying to find ways to bail from it, but they already have products in the pipe-line. Sunk cost or not sunk cost- that is the question.
This is the #1 reason I am thinking Tbolt, to get the unlimited 4g...
But then again I am trying to figure out if I would ever truly go over a tiered plan... Considering over the past year and a half of owning my Droid I only went above 2GBs once. I just don't use the browser that much, and it is not due to it being slow, it is due to it being such a small screen... I would rather use my laptop...
Hmm, decisions decisions...
But then again I am trying to figure out if I would ever truly go over a tiered plan... Considering over the past year and a half of owning my Droid I only went above 2GBs once. I just don't use the browser that much, and it is not due to it being slow, it is due to it being such a small screen... I would rather use my laptop...
Hmm, decisions decisions...
rushmore
Extreme Android User
Please go to post #5 for perspective. It is VERY VERY easy to go over 5GB, yet alone 2GB with 4G. It is faster, so folks will want to use it more. The ENTIRE reason for carriers posturing about bandwidth- they make more moeny this way amd NOT less as the imply for the "humble, sweet low use users" as the carriers say they are "defending".
Lock into an unlimited plan NOW, or be doing a Homer Simpson level, "DOH!" in a few months.
Please go to post #5 for perspective. It is VERY VERY easy to go over 5GB, yet alone 2GB with 4G. It is faster, so folks will want to use it more. The ENTIRE reason for carriers posturing about bandwidth- they make more moeny this way amd NOT less as the imply for the "humble, sweet low use users" as the carriers say they are "defending".
Lock into an unlimited plan NOW, or be doing a Homer Simpson level, "DOH!" in a few months.
Hmmmmmm, but won't you just get stuck with tiered 2 years down the road?
It is only pushing off the inevitable...
I guess what it comes down to is I have lived my life without youtube on my phone (unless I am wifi), and little browsing due to the screen size, I am wondering if it will make that much of a diff...
Also, 3g is not true unlimited, if you get over 5GB in a month they start throttling/telling you to back off, or at least that's what they did with my friend...
karmamule
Well-Known Member
Please go to post #5 for perspective. It is VERY VERY easy to go over 5GB, yet alone 2GB with 4G. It is faster, so folks will want to use it more. The ENTIRE reason for carriers posturing about bandwidth- they make more moeny this way amd NOT less as the imply for the "humble, sweet low use users" as the carriers say they are "defending".
Lock into an unlimited plan NOW, or be doing a Homer Simpson level, "DOH!" in a few months.
And some apps are planning to treat 4G differently to take advantage of the extra bandwidth so you'll use even more. For example Mog will stream higher bitrate music if you're using 4G, so the same amount of listening will consume more bandwidth than it did before.
Please go to post #5 for perspective. It is VERY VERY easy to go over 5GB, yet alone 2GB with 4G. It is faster, so folks will want to use it more. The ENTIRE reason for carriers posturing about bandwidth- they make more moeny this way amd NOT less as the imply for the "humble, sweet low use users" as the carriers say they are "defending".
Lock into an unlimited plan NOW, or be doing a Homer Simpson level, "DOH!" in a few months.
P.S. if you buy a phone with no contract you COULD put it on one of these lines could you not? Like if I were to buy the next greatest hit a year down the road I could put it on the unlimited LTE?
milan03
Android Enthusiast
On EVDO's 3G you're lucky if you sustain 1-2mbps speeds, and with that throughput you really have to sweat to break 5GB a month. Really sweat.
With 20+mbps speeds on LTE you can technically run over 5GB cap in less than 1 hour.
If you think that because 2GB a month is more than enough on your current 3G vzw plan, you will seriously get RickRolled as soon as 4G slaps you with overages after a day or two.
milan03
Android Enthusiast
You need a SIM card on LTE phones. But more importantly, Verizon sees the MEID number of the device, and knows that it's a LTE compatible device. There comes your spanking new metered LTE plan.
So if I go with the unlimited contract it would HAVE to be the bolt for the entire duration of the 1-2 year contract?
milan03
Android Enthusiast
No but it would have to be started as unlimited 4G with LTE device, then grandfathered into the next one.
Ahhh that's what I was asking.
If I get the Thunderbolt, and a year from now pick up the next uber dual core or quad core phone (whatever is out), at unlocked prices, could I use this unlimited plan on said device?
milan03
Android Enthusiast
Most likely yes. But until the developers start coding for multicore hardware, there is absolutely no use of multicore mobile phones. I can't think of a single app that us currently on the market that uses dual core architecture.
Just like with early dual cores with laptops the cores will offload apps onto the other core so the phone can run the core at a lower voltage and still maintain speed.
It should increase battery life of the phone since when one core is at 50% and one is at 25% it will offload the processing from the 50% to the 25% to even the two cores out.
Should increase battery life and increase smoothness of the phone over all.
As long as Google codes it to do that (which I think they can do relatively simply).
Either that or we may be able to manually set the affinity for the cores
And regardless, they have announced 2.4 will include dual core support for the Android OS at least.
*Although I do agree 100% that the dual core will be mostly useless as of right now, I may pick up a one year contract on the Bolt with the buyback from Best Buy*
rushmore
Extreme Android User
THAT is the grand question. Will VZW continue to honor the "grandfather" process, or will they cut everybody off at the knees for their next device?
Seems a loophole COULD be that you simply get a device off contract and then they can not force the issue, but they may still zap the unlimited after two years.
I guess we will not know until then (or if tiered falls on it's face in the long-run).
rushmore
Extreme Android User
This is correct. The premise of operation and power use of dual core chips like the A5, Tegra 2 and new OMAP is not the same as dual core desktop chips.
Even current apps leverage their design to some degree.
milan03's premise is about spot on though for GPU function.
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An example is Flash and N64 app performance comparing the MyTouch 4G (gsm version of same chipset in TB) and the Tegra 2. No comparison with N64. Games like Beetle Racing and NFL Blitz are slow on the MyTouch, but very smooth on the gTablet.
Both Flash and N64 performance are far smoother with the Tegra 2 (gTablet) than the MyTouch 4G. Were it not for the 4G unlimited, I would be waiting for a dual core.