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Root New to Evo & just rooted :)

Havoc40 said:
That's the only thing I can think of. Either VOL DOWN, not named correctly, or bad download. Try this download link.... http://files.androidspin.com/downloads.php?dir=amon_ra/RECOVERY/&file=PC36IMG.zip
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Allow me to retract my previous statement...LOL! I apparently didn't do it correctly as you suggested. I rebooted back into recovery and whamo...it asked me if I wanted to update and I did by hitting the volume up button. So, I guess I need to go back into recovery and perform a nand backup first and then, if I'm feeling lucky, flash a ROM?
 
Okay...what all should I have checked to backup? It has an [x] on boot, system, and data. I probably need to also select wimax right? What about cache, recovery, sd-ext, and .andriod_secure?
 
cdadams1223 said:
Okay...what all should I have checked to backup? It has an [x] on boot, system, and data. I probably need to also select wimax right? What about cache, recovery, sd-ext, and .andriod_secure?
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You know, that's a question I'm not so sure of as well. All my backup's have the default 3, plus I add sd-ext (my card is partitioned for A2SD), and wimax. I don't know about android_secure and recovery, but I've been able to flip back and forth from nandroids with no ill effects. You should be fine using the default, and wimax.
 
Havoc40 said:
You know, that's a question I'm not so sure of as well. All my backup's have the default 3, plus I add sd-ext (my card is partitioned for A2SD), and wimax. I don't know about android_secure and recovery, but I've been able to flip back and forth from nandroids with no ill effects. You should be fine using the default, and wimax.
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Well, I went ahead and just started the backup. While I'm sitting here waiting, I found that the default three are pretty much all you need. The only reason to back-up sd-ext, that I found, was if you planned on making changes to your sd card w/ the whole A2SD thing...which you do. So, after this thing is finished backing up, I should save it to my computer for safe keeping...right? Can I rename the file or leave it as is?
 
This was taken from a akazabam post:

akazabam said:
you absolutely need boot and system for a bootable backup. You, of course, need data if you want it to be useable. So, in addition to those, three you will want .android_secure, if, and only if, you use froyo apps2sd (the "normal" way) AND you intend to *remove* any of those apps. I say that, because if you remove any apps from there, then restore your nandroid backup, you'll end up with the app showing up in manage applications, but unusable. You're better off backing up .android_secure if you use froyo apps2sd, just to be safe. As was already stated, only backup sd-ext if you have partitioned the sdcard, and use a2sd. Now with 2.3, it will just skip it instead of erroring out if you accidentally select it when you shouldn't have.

Beyond that, I always select wimax, but if you're trying to save space, make maybe one or two backups that include it, then don't bother after that. Just make sure to remember which backups have it included, and keep them safe. Recovery is pointless, as you need recovery to restore a backup. If you lose recovery, you're not going to restore it through nandroid, so I don't see the point. Cache is not necessary either, but if you don't include it, make sure to wipe cache before restoring a backup. The restore process *probably* wipes cache for you, but I'm not sure. Be safe, and wipe it yourself.

The reason these are selectable is to help you save space. If you don't *need* a particular partition, don't back it up, and the whole backup will be smaller. It's a matter of trade-off, and how complete you want your backup to be.
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Thanks Stevcha for that great find! Crap...guess I'll go delete my previous nand and go do it again...this time to include .android_secure. I use A2SD but I never partitioned my SD card so I shouldn't have to back it up right?
 
Thanks for that stevcha, I remembered reading that and it stuck in my head. But to explain on the spot I couldn't quite come up with the answers.

Cdadams1223, you definitely need to make sure you back up wimax. If you loose your wimax keys at some point in time, you'll need to restore a nandroid to get them back. That is the only way you can get them back.
 
cdadams1223 said:
Thanks Stevcha for that great find! Crap...guess I'll go delete my previous nand and go do it again...this time to include .android_secure. I use A2SD but I never partitioned my SD card so I shouldn't have to back it up right?
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You use Darktremors A2SD or do you use Froyo Apps2SD? Well, I guess if you didn't partition your card your using Froyo which is different than DT. Like akazabam said in the post stevcha quoted, you'll probably benefit backing up android_secure to be safe and have everything functional in your backup using Froyo. To answer a question in your previous post, you can rename the backup. Saving it to your computer is smart, just make sure you know what OTA it is (3.70) and HBOOT (2.10) for future reference.

Read these about partitions if your interested.
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/278898-android-partitions-kernels-explained.html

http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all...ore-information-about-android-partitions.html
 
cdadams1223 said:
I've had my Evo for about two weeks now. I was unsure if I wanted to root it or not, but all that is out the window as I rooted it last night. This is all pretty new to me despite my rooting my wife's Hero last year. There's still a lot of things I'm unsure of so be prepared for questions. Gotta get back to work, but I'll be back with questions.

Thanks in advance for future help! :)
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Congratulations on a successful root! And welcome to the [modded] Evo part of the family! :D haha

I would suggest trying out some ROMs. If you click the link in my signature, there are lots of ROMs to be found there. If you need help flashing (flashing is another term for installing) these ROMs, we are here to help. Believe me...my threads should be suffice too haha I swear, I stayed up all night some night with some very faithful people from here helping me root it and flash ROMs. This place is great for help.

Anyway, have fun with the root! Be sure to see what apps are also recommended for rooted phones too. Many websites and threads here can give you some great ideas on what you may want.

EDIT: Crap...my link is broken :/ hopefully it's temporary.
 
ndh777 said:
Congratulations on a successful root! And welcome to the [modded] Evo part of the family! :D haha

I would suggest trying out some ROMs. If you click the link in my signature, there are lots of ROMs to be found there. If you need help flashing (flashing is another term for installing) these ROMs, we are here to help. Believe me...my threads should be suffice too haha I swear, I stayed up all night some night with some very faithful people from here helping me root it and flash ROMs. This place is great for help.

Anyway, have fun with the root! Be sure to see what apps are also recommended for rooted phones too. Many websites and threads here can give you some great ideas on what you may want.

EDIT: Crap...my link is broken :/ hopefully it's temporary.
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Thanks NDH! I do have a few questions. I put the newest Kings ROM on my sdcard waiting to flash, but wanted to make sure I do things the right way. Do I have to us a custom kernal or does the Kings ROM already have one that you can tweak via SetCPU? I also placed the Calkulin's format on my sdcard to use when I wipe everything prior to flashing my ROM.

So, in order, I do the following...right?
1) Boot into recovery
2) Make a nand
3) wipe cache, data, dalvik
4) do a Calkulin wipe for extra assurance that things are clean
5) flash the ROM

Dumb question, but do I need to flash GAPPS or are the google apps/market already included in this ROM?

Thanks everyone for your help so far!
 
cdadams1223 said:
Thanks NDH! I do have a few questions. I put the newest Kings ROM on my sdcard waiting to flash, but wanted to make sure I do things the right way. Do I have to us a custom kernal or does the Kings ROM already have one that you can tweak via SetCPU? I also placed the Calkulin's format on my sdcard to use when I wipe everything prior to flashing my ROM.

So, in order, I do the following...right?
1) Boot into recovery
2) Make a nand
3) wipe cache, data, dalvik
4) do a Calkulin wipe for extra assurance that things are clean
5) flash the ROM

Dumb question, but do I need to flash GAPPS or are the google apps/market already included in this ROM?

Thanks everyone for your help so far!
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For GAPPS...there has only been one ROM that required me to flash GAPPS and I never did it but they say that it is the same as flashing any other ROM to your device. I know that I needed GAPPS because my Market app was missing, so you will see if you need it or not. If you boot up the device with the ROM and find out that you do need GAPPS, you can simply reboot the phone into Recovery and flash GAPPS and go back into a simple reboot of the phone and you will have your Google Apps.

For me, I did those steps except the Calkulin's format does the wipe and all that extra stuff for you so I never really did that step. In a nand backup, I always backed up everything except the last two options...what Recovery are you using? Stock (came with phone), ClockWorkMod, or Amon Ra? I tried using CWM and many of my ROMs did not want to flash. Others, CWM worked fine for them. And if you are using CWM, what version are you using? I heard that a 2.5.0.1 version or something was better than the current one which is like 3.0.0.0 I use Amon Ra. Looks a little different, but it works for me.

To be perfectly honest, I've heard of SetCPU but never used it or know about it so that may be a question someone else will have to answer.

But the steps you have are perfect. Manually wiping, etc. is probably better than just relying on C's format.

Best of luck to you with the flash! :)
 
Gapps is usually only needed on AOSP roms(Evervolv and CM are 2 of them). Kings is a Sense rom and should not need them. Doing the extras wipes before flashing can't hurt and only takes a few seconds extra.

If you want to overclock, you will need a custom kernel. If you just want to underclock(screen off) then you can use SetCPU. You will need to disable the lock for the stock kernel to be able to underclock it. I would just flash the rom and use the phone for a couple of charge cycles to see how it is before you decide on a kernel or using Setcpu. Just remember that most of us experience bad battery life the first day or so......just because we keep playing with the new roms to see what they are like ;)
 
Xtremedays said:
Gapps is usually only needed on AOSP roms(Evervolv and CM are 2 of them). Kings is a Sense rom and should not need them. Doing the extras wipes before flashing can't hurt and only takes a few seconds extra.

If you want to overclock, you will need a custom kernel. If you just want to underclock(screen off) then you can use SetCPU. You will need to disable the lock for the stock kernel to be able to underclock it. I would just flash the rom and use the phone for a couple of charge cycles to see how it is before you decide on a kernel or using Setcpu. Just remember that most of us experience bad battery life the first day or so......just because we keep playing with the new roms to see what they are like ;)
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Thanks Extreme! I'm flashing Kings right now. I did a thorough wipe and now I'm just waiting on the magic to happen. :) I hope this didn't screw up all the games I had going on Words With Friends...LOL!
 
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