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Nexus S vs ???

Another review on Optimus 2X. It looks like decent effort from LG and got positive review overall.

LG Optimus 2X Review

It's not certain whether this is going to T-mobile or AT&T though. Because of phones like this and NS, I'm seriously considering switch to T-mobile from Verizon. Staying with Verizon restricts me too much in terms of phones to choose. Also their recent moves on the data pricing, upgrade/return policy don't look good with iPhone introduction.
I just wonder how T-mobile is like when it comes to data signal reception inside building compared to other carriers. Some folks are saying it's horrible because of high frequency they are using for HSPA+.
 
I agree it didn't feel cheap at all and the all black look was awesome. Only complaint was excessive finger prints

I think it looks and feels great - just because it isn't heavy and all glass doesn't mean the build quality is inferior -just different materials.
 
Tegra 2 battery life:

Dell Streak 7 review -- Engadget

I know it's a review of a generally poor device but the battery life is a worry.

Read into it what you will - in the performance and battery section.
Initial feedback from early Optimus 2x owners suggests similar battery life to NS - maybe this would improve with optimised app development. Certainly no better but no worse either.
 
The following is just a rant.

To me, the deal breaker is the lack of a microSD slot. What were they thinking? I can't believe the developers at Google said, "Okay, let's shave $10 off the cost of this phone by getting rid of something no one really needs, such as external memory."

There's no way! The developers are going to want all the bells and whistles. Otherwise, they won't be able to fully test all the features of the operating system and the core software.

Seriously, moving forward with Android 2.4, 2.5, 3.0, etc., are they going to say, "We don't have expansion memory on our development devices, so we can't guarantee that the OS will work with it, even though every other Android phone in existence has it."

That's idiotic. Some bean counter at Google met with some bean counter at Samsung (a company famous for its low quality electronics) and came up with this compromise design that has angered the development community. Those of us writing apps for Android will have to either grit our teeth and buy a Nexus S just to have the official development device, or else dump Google's devices completely and go with the latest and greatest from Moto, LG, HTC, etc.

Or else just stick with the good, old Nexus One which for my money is still a fantastic handheld device. Just my humble opinion!
 
The following is just a rant.

To me, the deal breaker is the lack of a microSD slot. What were they thinking? I can't believe the developers at Google said, "Okay, let's shave $10 off the cost of this phone by getting rid of something no one really needs, such as external memory."

There's no way! The developers are going to want all the bells and whistles. Otherwise, they won't be able to fully test all the features of the operating system and the core software.

Seriously, moving forward with Android 2.4, 2.5, 3.0, etc., are they going to say, "We don't have expansion memory on our development devices, so we can't guarantee that the OS will work with it, even though every other Android phone in existence has it."

That's idiotic. Some bean counter at Google met with some bean counter at Samsung (a company famous for its low quality electronics) and came up with this compromise design that has angered the development community. Those of us writing apps for Android will have to either grit our teeth and buy a Nexus S just to have the official development device, or else dump Google's devices completely and go with the latest and greatest from Moto, LG, HTC, etc.

Or else just stick with the good, old Nexus One which for my money is still a fantastic handheld device. Just my humble opinion!
That's the least important thing for me - I've never been able to fill the 8Gb in my Hero. I have a dedicated Sony walkman for movies and music - I would never use a phone however good for these things anyway. Expandable storage may be an issue for some, however I think 16gig is plenty for most.
 
That's the least important thing for me - I've never been able to fill the 8Gb in my Hero. I have a dedicated Sony walkman for movies and music - I would never use a phone however good for these things anyway. Expandable storage may be an issue for some, however I think 16gig is plenty for most.

+1

The phone isn't a media device for me, sure it's great that it can but primarily, for me at least it's all about communication. Calls, SMS, mobile browsing etc.

I won't have any storage issues at all. Agreed it's irksome for those who make best use of media content on the move but 16gb is still a pretty solid amount, considering the cost of large micro SD cards.

Just my 2pence.
 
The following is just a rant.

To me, the deal breaker is the lack of a microSD slot. What were they thinking? I can't believe the developers at Google said, "Okay, let's shave $10 off the cost of this phone by getting rid of something no one really needs, such as external memory."

There's no way! The developers are going to want all the bells and whistles. Otherwise, they won't be able to fully test all the features of the operating system and the core software.

Seriously, moving forward with Android 2.4, 2.5, 3.0, etc., are they going to say, "We don't have expansion memory on our development devices, so we can't guarantee that the OS will work with it, even though every other Android phone in existence has it."

That's idiotic. Some bean counter at Google met with some bean counter at Samsung (a company famous for its low quality electronics) and came up with this compromise design that has angered the development community. Those of us writing apps for Android will have to either grit our teeth and buy a Nexus S just to have the official development device, or else dump Google's devices completely and go with the latest and greatest from Moto, LG, HTC, etc.

Or else just stick with the good, old Nexus One which for my money is still a fantastic handheld device. Just my humble opinion!

From a development standpoint, the internal memory behaves the exact same way as an SD card would, just much faster. The only downside is that you can't take the memory card out to use with a card reader or other phone for testing purposes.
 
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It's not certain whether this is going to T-mobile or AT&T though. Because of phones like this and NS, I'm seriously considering switch to T-mobile from Verizon. Staying with Verizon restricts me too much in terms of phones to choose. Also their recent moves on the data pricing, upgrade/return policy don't look good with iPhone introduction.
I just wonder how T-mobile is like when it comes to data signal reception inside building compared to other carriers. Some folks are saying it's horrible because of high frequency they are using for HSPA+.

I'm a long-time VzW customer who had concerns about T-Mobile coverage too. In my area, with about a month's comparison, data is comparable, tmo voice is better. This includes inside my fortress of a work building, where neither is good (I use WiFi there). VzW was once decent there but has deteriorated in last year or so.
 
Well after reading the specs on the SGS II...I have to say, I'm quite *argh*. It seems that Samsung saved everything for its own phone instead of putting it into the Nexus S. This is what I had envisioned the NS to be last year. Hands-on with the Samsung Galaxy S II | Android Central Would have been a sweet phone minus TouchWiz. I think more people would have gotten the Nexus S had it have these specs. I know I would.

The Galaxy S II steps things up with a 4.3-inch screen at 480x800 with the new Super AMOLED Plus technology, a dual-core processor, 1GB of RAM, either 16GB or 32GB of storage (plus microSD up to 32GB), Wifi b/g/n, USB 2.0, a 1650mAh battery, aGPS, an 8MP rear camera and 2MP front camera (and 1080p recording), and the new Touchwiz 4.0 atop Android 2.3.
 
This is all a real dilemna for me - I can now upgrade any time I want - I like a lot about the NS and really want the reassurance of dev support - however how can I ignore the incoming wave of higher spec hardware?
 
Galaxy S II is a beast as far as spec. I'm waiting on HTC to reveal their official phones at MWC. If you're looking to get a phone I'm thinking the best two phones will be the Galaxy S II or the Desire HD 2 (aka Saga or Pyramid)
 
Motorola Atrix got a great review from Engadget.

Obviously leave out the pointless and hideously expensive peripherals.
 
HTC showings at MWC is hugely disappointing with no dual core phones, no honeycomb tablet. They got just incremental spec bumps to Desire, Incredible. Now they even look like passed by LG's 2X, 3D.
 
HTC showings at MWC is hugely disappointing with no dual core phones, no honeycomb tablet. They got just incremental spec bumps to Desire, Incredible. Now they even look like passed by LG's 2X, 3D.
Yes, saw the Incredible S, Wildfire S, Desire S. Spec wise it was just like *yawn*. Very disapointing since I thought they'll realease some amazing phones this year. Also, what's up with adding S to all of the names of the phones? It just looks like they are copying from Samsung :/ Not very original imo
 
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