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TrueFangz

TrueFangz

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Serious thread please.

I saw a post on AC, and don't see one here, so thought I would start it.

I admit I haven't looked very hard, but spent the last few minutes searching google news for Note7 updates as I haven't heard of any more Note7 tragedies since the second recall had been announced. Supposedly, tons of people did not participate in the recall and are insistent upon keeping their 7's as long as possible. So I am having a hard time figuring out how/why this could be? How did all the hype go away when there are still a bunch of these out there in use?

Also as of earlier today a supposed S7 edge reported to catch fire, and it's not the first one either.

I have had the following Samsung devices: Note3, 4, 5, 7, 7, and now S7 edge. Love them all, but I don't know what to think or believe anymore.
 
TrueFangz said:
Serious thread please.

I saw a post on AC, and don't see one here, so thought I would start it.

I admit I haven't looked very hard, but spent the last few minutes searching google news for Note7 updates as I haven't heard of any more Note7 tragedies since the second recall had been announced. Supposedly, tons of people did not participate in the recall and are insistent upon keeping their 7's as long as possible. So I am having a hard time figuring out how/why this could be? How did all the hype go away when there are still a bunch of these out there in use?

Also as of earlier today a supposed S7 edge reported to catch fire, and it's not the first one either.

I have had the following Samsung devices: Note3, 4, 5, 7, 7, and now S7 edge. Love them all, but I don't know what to think or believe anymore.
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Well now, if you were one of the ones stupid enough to have kept your N7 after being told it was dangerous and to power down and return it, would you advertise the fact that your device had blown up? Or would you save your blushes and not advrtise your own stupidity. Further, in the UK insurerance companies will look for any excuse not to pay out, and your phone certified as dangerous by its manufacturer starts to smell funny and gooo starts ooozing from it before you have to rush the child to hospital, or your house burns....... hmmmmmm?
 
After the final recall from Samsung, it is now up to the user to return it. I believe that there won't be mass coverage of future problems because the corporation has really nothing more to lose...thus the lack of a national media coverage, kinda like if some private party is playing with fireworks and blows their own finger off, it won't get mass news coverage. It is strange though that we haven't heard of any further incidents.
 
I just read where an S7 Edge flamed up in the last day or so. It was a replacement for a Note 7 that hadn't gone up in smoke. So Samsung has a HUGE problem on their hands.
 
Uhh, sorry guys. I don't buy your rationalizations. If there continues to be spectacular incidents of cell phones experiencing spontaneous meltdowns, my bet is we'll hear about them in the news. I expect there'll be some more, but I also expect the incidence rate will drop off, if the problem is specific to only certain phones that for whatever reason are flawed. On the other hand, if the problem is a flaw in design, I would expect the problems to continue at a steady or increasing rate over time. Those are the ideas I'm considering. Glad to hear others, too :)
 
TrueFangz said:
Serious thread please.

I saw a post on AC, and don't see one here, so thought I would start it.

I admit I haven't looked very hard, but spent the last few minutes searching google news for Note7 updates as I haven't heard of any more Note7 tragedies since the second recall had been announced. Supposedly, tons of people did not participate in the recall and are insistent upon keeping their 7's as long as possible. So I am having a hard time figuring out how/why this could be? How did all the hype go away when there are still a bunch of these out there in use?

Also as of earlier today a supposed S7 edge reported to catch fire, and it's not the first one either.

I have had the following Samsung devices: Note3, 4, 5, 7, 7, and now S7 edge. Love them all, but I don't know what to think or believe anymore.
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Keeping the Note 7 is foolish. Considering that Samsung has issued a recall, if your phone has any issues, what do you think the likelihood is that Samsung would honor the warranty? Knowing that the device can overheat, and heat being an enemy of electronics, it doesn't make any financial sense for them to replace ANYTHING on your phone if you ask for warranty repairs. Samsung working on your device and releasing it back into your custody, that would be a liability on their part, and considering all that has transpired, I can't imagine any company dumb enough to release a product with a known safety issue back into service. Then again, I couldn't imagine anyone dumb enough to keep this phone considering all the warnings that have been issued.


The_Chief said:
I just read where an S7 Edge flamed up in the last day or so. It was a replacement for a Note 7 that hadn't gone up in smoke. So Samsung has a HUGE problem on their hands.
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It makes you wonder though, maybe the person that had the S7 Edge go up was using a 3rd party charger, possibly the same 3rd party charger that caught their note 7 on fire. Also, considering that Apple has warned consumers about buying charging accessories from Amazon, seems like there's something bigger here to contend with. I know a few micro USB cables I've bought from Amazon have proved headaches for me.
 
Another thought, is Samsung's offer of full refund on returned devices for an indefinite period or is there an expiry date? And after that, if your Note7 does crap out, combust or whatever. NO warranty, probably NO independent servicer is going to touch it, and can't sell it through legitimate channels like Swappa or Ebay, could end-up being stuck with the thing and losing all your money.
 
The_Chief said:
I just read where an S7 Edge flamed up in the last day or so. It was a replacement for a Note 7 that hadn't gone up in smoke. So Samsung has a HUGE problem on their hands.
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Please tell me no! I do notice this phone gets hot at times when charging with the cable that came with it....
 
The_Chief said:
I just read where an S7 Edge flamed up in the last day or so. It was a replacement for a Note 7 that hadn't gone up in smoke. So Samsung has a HUGE problem on their hands.
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Fingers crossed, I haven't had any type of issues. My S7 edge only becomes slightly warm when charging or even in VR. I hope I don't have future issues.

johnpjackson said:
Uhh, sorry guys. I don't buy your rationalizations. If there continues to be spectacular incidents of cell phones experiencing spontaneous meltdowns, my bet is we'll hear about them in the news. I expect there'll be some more, but I also expect the incidence rate will drop off, if the problem is specific to only certain phones that for whatever reason are flawed. On the other hand, if the problem is a flaw in design, I would expect the problems to continue at a steady or increasing rate over time. Those are the ideas I'm considering. Glad to hear others, too :)
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Yes, but that's with any phone, I believe the OP was specifically talking about the N7. Obviously, if there are multiple issues with any phone, it will be newsworthy.
 
InfernalByte said:
Well now, if you were one of the ones stupid enough to have kept your N7 after being told it was dangerous and to power down and return it, would you advertise the fact that your device had blown up? Or would you save your blushes and not advrtise your own stupidity. Further, in the UK insurerance companies will look for any excuse not to pay out, and your phone certified as dangerous by its manufacturer starts to smell funny and gooo starts ooozing from it before you have to rush the child to hospital, or your house burns....... hmmmmmm?
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I see your point, but I certainly wouldn't be surprised to hear several more people with reports who claim they didn't know about the issue, or were just about to go exchange when all of a sudden: Ka-Boom! :)

TexandroidSS said:
Keeping the Note 7 is foolish. Considering that Samsung has issued a recall, if your phone has any issues, what do you think the likelihood is that Samsung would honor the warranty? Knowing that the device can overheat, and heat being an enemy of electronics, it doesn't make any financial sense for them to replace ANYTHING on your phone if you ask for warranty repairs. Samsung working on your device and releasing it back into your custody, that would be a liability on their part, and considering all that has transpired, I can't imagine any company dumb enough to release a product with a known safety issue back into service. Then again, I couldn't imagine anyone dumb enough to keep this phone considering all the warnings that have been issued.
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I highly agree, but that's not really what I was getting at with this topic.

major2112 said:
Yes, but that's with any phone, I believe the OP was specifically talking about the N7. Obviously, if there are multiple issues with any phone, it will be newsworthy.
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^This^

There were so many Note7 reports in the first couple weeks of the OG, and the replacement, but now the media has gone quite silent. Basically I'm just wondering if the majority of the 7's were/are safe, but no one knows yet because the exact root cause hasn't been discovered yet. My main point is that there is still a huge mess of people still using them, and yet there have been no more reported incidents. Wondering how long it'll last, and if perhaps the two Note7's I possessed could have been perfectly safe.
 
I saw on Yahoo news there were reports of the S7 edge catching fire. However, they are saying this is suspicious and they do not have any proof of that yet. I've had my S7 since March. I charge it at work through a USB cable, at home with a wireless charger. The only time it gets really warm, is when I have it in Occulus VR. I would think that if there was a problem, it would have happened by now.
 
TexandroidSS said:
Also, considering that Apple has warned consumers about buying charging accessories from Amazon, seems like there's something bigger here to contend with. I know a few micro USB cables I've bought from Amazon have proved headaches for me.
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I only buy from reputable brands, sold direct from Amazon.

Gets much worse when you look at USB type C which can damage your device, computer, and chargers if you use cheap non certified cables.
 
TrueFangz said:
There were so many Note7 reports in the first couple weeks of the OG, and the replacement, but now the media has gone quite silent.
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Maybe because the majority are now off the streets and no longer a risk? Certainly here in the UK owners have been quick to respond to the requests to return their devices.
 
toptobottom said:
I wonder where the major news blasts are for this and I'm sure Apphole will not even give it an acknowledgement.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/iPhone-7-catches-fire-burns-a-car_id86828
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If it's only one iPhone 7, that's probably nothing to worry about. But if more and dozens start catching fire, then I think Apple will have a serious problem, and the tabloids and tech blogs will have a field day of course. There have been one off reports of various other iPhone models catching fire over the years.

If it was a Micromax, or a Vivo, or a Meizu, or something ignited, that probably wouldn't have been mentioned by (United States focussed) Phone Arena at all.
 
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My theory is that this issue is not confined to a single model or even brand. It's because manufacturers are trying to cram too much energy capacity into too small a space. The push to make batteries as small & thin as possible, while maximizing capacity, is a very slippery slope... especially when it involves lithium. I think we've passed a threshold where the batteries are shorting out, anode to cathode, because they're over-compressed.

IMO there are only two solutions to this mess: make the batteries larger and give the lithium some breathing room, or eliminate lithium in favor of a new energy storage medium. Battery technology is very innovative, and there are some really exciting things on the horizon. Time to pick the best of those new technologies and scale them to full production.
 
TrueFangz said:
There were so many Note7 reports in the first couple weeks of the OG, and the replacement, but now the media has gone quite silent. Basically I'm just wondering if the majority of the 7's were/are safe, but no one knows yet because the exact root cause hasn't been discovered yet. My main point is that there is still a huge mess of people still using them, and yet there have been no more reported incidents. Wondering how long it'll last, and if perhaps the two Note7's I possessed could have been perfectly safe.
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Seriously? By this point it's becoming increasingly clear that the vast majority were safe. There have not been any new accounts of phones burning (not exploding) since the second recall although the chance is always there. That says something! I still have mine because the phone I want to exchange to is not yet out. I guess that makes me dumb, stupid, irresponsible and everything other insult that's been thrown at us! I don't blame others for wanting to keep them forever especially how things have turned out so far. I'll also be the first to have a hearty laugh if Samsung finally gets to the bottom of it all and announces they the problem/risk definitively did not affect each and every phone (as I'm sure is the case). In any event, mine is being kept until I can replace it with the phone that I WANT, and not a moment before!
 
I forgot to mention that as of right now, in the United States, there is no deadline to receive a full refund. There also is no plan to limit charging, like announced in Europe, nor any plans to blacklist/disable devices! Stay tuned!
 
RaymondP said:
In any event, mine is being kept until I can replace it with the phone that I WANT, and not a moment before!
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I WANT IWANT I WANT I WANT. Don't ever stop to consider how you'd feel if your declared unsafe by the manufacturer phone hurt someone, it is obvious that you wil never comprehend the implications.

IT IS JUST A PHONE.
 
InfernalByte said:
I WANT IWANT I WANT I WANT. Don't ever stop to consider how you'd feel if your declared unsafe by the manufacturer phone hurt someone, it is obvious that you wil never comprehend the implications.

IT IS JUST A PHONE.
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Well of course, I'm too stupid and irresponsible to be able to prevent that from happening! Thank you, thank you so very much!
 
Let's keep this discourse civil.

RaymondP said:
I'm too stupid and irresponsible to be able to prevent that from happening!
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Until Samsung (and whoever else is investigating this) releases the final determination as to what actually caused these fires, there is no amount of intelligence or personal responsibility that can prevent it. How could it? No one knows the problem!

So let's get back on topic, which does not involve personal attacks or insults.
 
You cannot fly or take a number of public transport types with the note 7.

Most insurers around the world will not pay out if you have one which you failed to return under a recall should it explode and cause any damage .

Yes other Li-Ion devices have exploded, but not in the same league of failures as the Note 7.

Then there's the risk of it failing in your pocket. People have been killed by lithium batteries exploding in clothing pockets which have failed .

You're opening yourself up to a whole wave of legal issues if your device did fail for which you'd have no defence because you ignored a manufacturer safety recall.

Without knowing why they have failed and no clues you cannot be certain that your device is safe when even Samsung can't .
 
The_Chief said:
Let's keep this discourse civil.



Until Samsung (and whoever else is investigating this) releases the final determination as to what actually caused these fires, there is no amount of intelligence or personal responsibility that can prevent it. How could it? No one knows the problem!

So let's get back on topic, which does not involve personal attacks or insults.
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I don't recall insulting or attacking anybody. And the point being made is that I could certainly prevent anyone else from getting hurt of my phone were to overheat. It's totally possibly since there is nothing remotely happening like say, a grenade going off! They overheat, expand, and burst their casings. If left unattended next to something flammable, like a car, sofa or bed, they can cause fires. There is more than enough space there to keep others from coming into any harm! That's exactly what I've been doing all along!
 
nx1977 said:
You cannot fly or take a number of public transport types with the note 7.

Most insurers around the world will not pay out if you have one which you failed to return under a recall should it explode and cause any damage .

Yes other Li-Ion devices have exploded, but not in the same league of failures as the Note 7.

Then there's the risk of it failing in your pocket. People have been killed by lithium batteries exploding in clothing pockets which have failed .

You're opening yourself up to a whole wave of legal issues if your device did fail for which you'd have no defence because you ignored a manufacturer safety recall.

Without knowing why they have failed and no clues you cannot be certain that your device is safe when even Samsung can't .
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And that's another thing...risk! No new incidences of overheating and still 1.2 million out there, being used! Clearly something has changed and I'm going to say that something is risk! I've almost made up my mind not to give mine up. Every day that goes by with no more problems has me more comfortable with doing that!
 
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