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uhhh...that makes very little sense to me. Why test it if they don't plan to release it?
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They already started the sign up process for the nougat beta update...
uhhh...that makes very little sense to me. Why test it if they don't plan to release it?
They are collecting input from Zmax Pro customers to basically, improve functionality of their Marshmallow firmware, possibly using that data down the road, to make a not-so-sucky Nougat experience.
Maybe they've read enough on Android forums alone about just how much this phone sucks. They're not doing this to bolster root resistance or make it easier to root, but because it's a POS and they know it.
Obviously they want to improve their products and sell more handsets down the road. The rooting crowd looking for the ideal phone is miniscule compared to those just looking for a phone that looks/performs the best for a good price.
Face it. Their phones suck. Even their higher end phones are rubbish, except for maybe the original and 2nd Zmax (I thought they were hideous and cheaply built). I had hoped the Pro would break the slew of crap they've been putting out. Phone is physically perfect, firmware is crap. And being unrootable makes it that much worse lol
That's your opinion. I think it's a solid mid-range phone at a budget price, running mostly-vanilla android. The few bugs I had were pretty much fixed with the B12 update. Also if you expect that every single brand new phone you ever buy is automagically going to get root right out of the box, you're just letting yourself down. It's getting pretty old hearing people piss and moan that their Hyundai isn't a Ferrari.
I couldn't disagree more. The original ZMAX and the ZMAX PRO are the best two phones I've ever owned, especially in relation to their cost. I purchased a Samsung Galaxy S3 when it was released for about $350 if I remember correctly, total piece of crap. I also bought an S4 and an S5 for full price and they were also total pieces of garbage. I will never buy another Samsung product again. I bought my girlfriend an Apple iPhone on release day (can't remember if it was the 5 or 6) and paid nearly $800. Total piece of crap in my opinion. The last two ZTE phones I've purchased were amazingly priced AND have given me a great experience. The PRO has had a few quirks and they could have designed a few things a bit differently, but hopefully the PRO 2 will see further improvement. Many people rank the Pro as the best bargain phone of 2016, with good reason.
The OG ZMax, I tried it before dismissing it. You know those store display models with plastic fake screen? Felt like that, it skipped, stuttered and just didn't impress me. $20 less and I got a new Stylo. Rootable. I know. Just my opinion.
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Can you please pull a stock OTA from your Obsidian? If it's metro I have a metro obsidian that I rooted and tried to remove kinguser with supersume it gets stuck on metro boot screen smh. I can get to stock recoveryActually, they could have done many things differently. Physically, they nailed it. Beautiful phone. Underneath it, lousy Marshmallow firmware. Their Lollipop firmware would've been fine.
I have three ZTE devices. A plug-in vehicle GPS/Hotspot module, an Obsidian and a ZMax Pro. They all disappoint. I will say the Obsidian would be fine if not for the display, eww.. But I paid $20 new. The GPS module? It barely works. Every time my wife opens the door it sends me an break-in alert, those come through fine.
Locating my vehicle, forget it. If it were really stolen I'd get a notification months after it was loaded onto a container ship. If I ping location it says it's outside of my house when my wife is really out shopping lol... Cost me $150. Lame.
The OG ZMax, I tried it before dismissing it. You know those store display models with plastic fake screen? Felt like that, it skipped, stuttered and just didn't impress me. $20 less and I got a new Stylo. Rootable. I know. Just my opinion.
I knew enough about Samsungs to avoid them before the GS3 came out. Sorry you got burned on that....
I just wish ZTE had more access to stock roms and a better flash toolI couldn't disagree more. The original ZMAX and the ZMAX PRO are the best two phones I've ever owned, especially in relation to their cost. I purchased a Samsung Galaxy S3 when it was released for about $350 if I remember correctly, total piece of crap. I also bought an S4 and an S5 for full price and they were also total pieces of garbage. I will never buy another Samsung product again. I bought my girlfriend an Apple iPhone on release day (can't remember if it was the 5 or 6) and paid nearly $800. Total piece of crap in my opinion. The last two ZTE phones I've purchased were amazingly priced AND have given me a great experience. The PRO has had a few quirks and they could have designed a few things a bit differently, but hopefully the PRO 2 will see further improvement. Many people rank the Pro as the best bargain phone of 2016, with good reason.
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Yeah same here. Mine was resurrected with B12. However, not redeeming enough for the whole experience, adding in lousy customer service and total money spent on a subpar device. ($170+30 case, plus stupid extra USB-c cable and unlock fee, cuz metroPCS sucks) $100 and i wouldn't be griping. I've bought better devices for less)
Can you please pull a stock OTA from your Obsidian? If it's metro I have a metro obsidian that I rooted and tried to remove kinguser with supersume it gets stuck on metro boot screen smh. I can get to stock recovery
Duuuude, why? Just why did you pay $17o for it in the first place? Isn't it $99 or less if you port a number? $30 case? There's a lot of less than $10 case on ebay for this phone. I bought one and saved my phone when it fell out of my pocket. Last but not least... unlock fee? If you waited 3 mos you could have unlock it for free. My phone is unlock now for free coz I stayed with this shitty phone on shitty metro. LOOOOOOOL.
I also owned the original Stylo. I bought it a few months after I got the original ZMAX, thinking the Stylo would be an upgrade. I gave the Stylo to a friend and kept my ZMAX. There were indeed areas where the Stylo was better ( feels nicer in the hand, better camera, etc). But the original Zmax actually had a crisper display (easy to see when sitting side by side) and the sound quality/speaker was much better. Since the Zmax has physical menu buttons the screen space isn't taken up by on screen buttons like on the Stylo line (you end up losing screen space). Display a webpage with images on a ZMAX and a Stylo side by side and it's easy to see which is preferable when it comes to fully utilizing screen space.
But... I really like the Stylo. I like LG. I think LG and ZTE are making some great phones and I'm glad we have the choice. I think the competition between those two brands will give us better products
I personally think the ZMAX PRO is better than the current Stylo (regardless of root access). Better screen resolution (very important), larger screen, better memory options, no on-screen buttons, fingerprint scanner, full range of sensors (Gyroscope, etc), etc. There ARE some good features on the side of the Stylo. NFC being the stand out.
Try it without sdcard.it wouldn't let me update my phone again smh craziness smh at least this time i got pictures to show
have no sd card insertedTry it without sdcard.
Same here. Still wont let me update.have no sd card inserted
smh this crap stinksSame here. Still wont let me update.
They are collecting input from Zmax Pro customers to basically, improve functionality of their Marshmallow firmware, possibly using that data down the road, to make a not-so-sucky Nougat experience.
Maybe they've read enough on Android forums alone about just how much this phone sucks. They're not doing this to bolster root resistance or make it easier to root, but because it's a POS and they know it.
Obviously they want to improve their products and sell more handsets down the road. The rooting crowd looking for the ideal phone is miniscule compared to those just looking for a phone that looks/performs the best for a good price.
Face it. Their phones suck. Even their higher end phones are rubbish, except for maybe the original and 2nd Zmax (I thought they were hideous and cheaply built). I had hoped the Pro would break the slew of crap they've been putting out. Phone is physically perfect, firmware is crap. And being unrootable makes it that much worse lol