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Help NPS Useless with Win 7 ?

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oas76

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Hi all.
I must say that I was a bit dissapointed today, when I got my I7500 android device, and wanted to imediatley check for upgrades, and sync with computer. The NPS CD in the box was aged, so I uppgraded from Samsung.com ( Version 1.3.0 IH4). So I have 2 issues with this software

1) It does not install succesfully on my Windows 7 64-bit machine
2) It installs on my windows 7 32-bit, but it does not "connect" with the i7500. I can see that the two storage devices, and it is impossible to "connect" the phone.

Does anyone know of samsungs plans to release a suite for Win7, and also for plans and timelines for 1.6 or 2.0 firmware upgrade from samsung. Or would I be better off to just run this device in Dev mode ?

My I7500 has 1.5 running I7500XXII8. In advance, thanks.
 
i have mine working correctly with windows7 64 professional
using the various guides here


heres an example
http://androidforums.com/samsung-i7500/8801-using-i7500-x64-computer-drivers.html


you cannot synch with nps, only used for updating the device

you are on the most uptodate firmware. most people here do not have that firmware
1.6 and 2.0 wont be coming till next year
windows 7 will probably be sorted when its public official rather than RTM

btw where you get it from? country and carrier?
 
Hmm... come to think of it... in concept it might be all too hard to create a sync utility... the concept is to make a program that runs in the background on android... I believe that's what the wlnpssync or something is for... then create a desktop app to sync with the app running on the phone... possibly do a tcp port forward with adb... I also believe some company is creating some sort of backup tool with a similar function...

I can't see samsung ever getting android sync done.
 
It worked with the original FF firmware. They just cant be bothered to update NPS for the little changes in android. I'm guessing there were a bunch of bugs using NPS with the FF firmware and they decided to just ditch support.

Its really comical, a smartphone which can't sync with outlook!
 
LOL but luckily we're not really missing out on much since contacts are handled by google so just importing them through gmail will do. For backups, we have 3rd party apps on android itself.
 
I've gone one step farther. I've removed the samsung apps from the apps folder. No compatibility problems what-so-ever.
 
Alright the list of apps I removed as well as its corresponding library

3rd Party Apps
DebugTool.apk
galaxoapps.apk
HDBlog.apk
Jbed.apk - This is the J2ME emulator so if not needed, just remove.
Logcollector.apk
Quickdroid.apk
SwiFTP_1.11.apk
VPN_Connections_v09.apk
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HTC Apps
Clicker.apk - This is used in pdfreader
com.htc.pdfreader.apk
com.qo.android.htc.apk
Exchange.apk
FilePicker.apk
HTC2G3GWidget.apk
HTCBlueWidget.apk
HTCBrightnessWidget.apk
HTCGPSWidget.apk
HTCIntSDWidget.apk
HTCLockWidget.apk
HTCRingWidget.apk
HTCRotationWidget.apk
HTCSDWidget.apk
HTCSyncWidget.apk
HTCWifiWidget.apk
HTC_IME.apk
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Samsung Apps (Some of these are used for testing/debug info so remove as necessary)
bootsetting.apk
bootsetting.odex
CameraFirmware.apk
CameraFirmware.odex
CSC.apk
CSC.odex
CurrentDataState.apk
CurrentDataState.odex
DataCopy.apk
DataCopy.odex
FactoryTest.apk
FactoryTest.odex
FileCopy.apk
FileCopy.odex
FileCount.apk
FileCount.odex
InputEventApp.apk
InputEventApp.odex
lcdtest.apk
lcdtest.odex
MusicService.apk
PhoneErrService.apk
PhoneErrService.odex
RilFactoryApp.apk
RilFactoryApp.odex
serviceModeApp.apk
serviceModeApp.odex
shutdown.apk
shutdown.odex
Switchers.apk
Switchers.odex
testgps.apk
testgps.odex
TSPFirmware.apk
TSPFirmware.odex
WlanTest.apk
WlanTest.odex
wssyncmlnps.apk
wssyncmlnps.odex
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lib\libjbedvm.so - Used by the J2ME emulator so remove if not needed
lib\libpdfreader.so - Used by htc's pdfreader
modules\ext4dev.ko - Remove only if not using ext4 if you don't know what that is, leave it.
modules\jbd2.ko - Used by ext4 partitions for journaling. Remove only if not using ext4.
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Ahh u didnt want any of them? Why didnt u install the lite version? You know the apps don't really hurt unless u run them!
 
ahh ok :) How are you finding it? Can you reboot, kill the stray processes, and run this, and paste the output? I'm curious if there's any extra memory available.

sync ; echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches ; echo 2 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches ; echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches ; cat /proc/meminfo ; free
 
Fresh boot with all tasks killed and that clearing of cache.

MemTotal: 95948 kB
MemFree: 35740 kB
Buffers: 44 kB
Cached: 15024 kB
SwapCached: 0 kB
Active: 46360 kB
Inactive: 2776 kB
SwapTotal: 0 kB
SwapFree: 0 kB
Dirty: 0 kB
Writeback: 0 kB
AnonPages: 34116 kB
Mapped: 14724 kB
Slab: 4812 kB
SReclaimable: 996 kB
SUnreclaim: 3816 kB
PageTables: 2180 kB
NFS_Unstable: 0 kB
Bounce: 0 kB
WritebackTmp: 0 kB
CommitLimit: 47972 kB
Committed_AS: 552300 kB
VmallocTotal: 409600 kB
VmallocUsed: 61188 kB
VmallocChunk: 319484 kB

total used free shared buffers
Mem: 95948 60300 35648 0 44
Swap: 0 0 0
Total: 95948 60300 35648

1019 1000 808 S /system/bin/servicemanager
1020 0 872 S /system/bin/vold
1021 0 672 S /system/bin/debuggerd
1022 0 1280 S /system/bin/akmd2
1023 1001 9568 S /system/bin/rild
1024 0 70820 S zygote /bin/app_process -Xzygote /system/bin --zygote
1025 1013 20580 S /system/bin/mediaserver
1026 1002 1168 S /system/bin/dbus-daemon --system --nofork
1027 0 800 S /system/bin/installd
1029 0 3332 S /sbin/adbd
1054 0 0 SW< [loop0]
1056 0 0 SW< [loop1]
1092 1000 161m S system_server
1142 1001 99.3m S com.android.phone
1144 10001 116m S android.process.acore
1170 10006 104m S com.google.process.gapps
1209 10009 93712 S android.process.media
1324 0 896 S /system/xbin/dropbear -E -A -N root -U 0 -G 0 -C root
1329 0 976 R /system/xbin/dropbear -E -A -N root -U 0 -G 0 -C root
1330 0 708 S -sh
1551 0 2068 R ps
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Holy cow that's 49.57421875 mb free!

It looks like u dont have alarm clock (small difference) and com.android.inputmethod.latin which i guess is the skinned keyboard. The keyboard must be making alot of difference. And probably the advanced task manager too.

I'm switching to Galaxo :)
 
I use touchpal. It's a better keyboard compared to stock because it has the cooltek T9 input. Yea those programs are auto killed with a task manager
 
Ahh ok. So after normal use does com.android.inputmethod.latin restart ?

It seems to be using a fair amount of memory.
 
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