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Pyro~

I am sorry for getting back to you late...With regard to hummingbird and Snapdragon processor question. (Is samsung galaxy S (hummingbird) processor faster than the qualcomm snapdragon processor?)

1) we already covered MTPS issue, 90 MTPS if you test the GPU alone sure

2) you asked if having a dedicated GPU would show gains for gaming or graphic intensive simulations? Yes and NO. Once again it is a double edge sword...having a dedicated GPU (Samsung Galaxy S) will work in your favor (At high battery cost) because you have two CPU/GPU that need to be fed(Battery). At the same time, Samsung GPU operates 200mhz and transfer data at 8kbits and there Achilles heal. I imagine if ther hub controller were able to hyper thread (Quad Pump 8 squared to the forth) on PCB. I think the Samsung would own. Alias this is not the case.
Snapdragon processor while it does have a integrated GPU, it's data transfer is 265k bits. I could go further to explain integers and regiistors, but that bore the begesus out of everyone.


3) Also the Snapdragon is at .13nanometers process and Hummingbird is 35.nanometer process. (lamen terms) I can put a snapdragon processor on my pinkie finger nail and humminbird w/GPU would take up a finger nail and a half.


4) the wattage usuage in the case of cell phones (milli=watts.) is profound and I think Samsung will have a tough time with battery life...(Speculation on that part)

Result,
From my experience, the smaller real estate a micro processor has, less power consumption, and more efficiency, and the ability to do more per CPU cycles. I once again say “Hands down, every spec that I could look at from a micro processors engineer perspective, Snapdragon wins...

P.S. this is not speculation only the facts..So if mod feels the need to move this post from the speculation thread..thats cool. :)

I hope that helps with Galaxy vs EVO. I am talking down to the microscopic level and my years of experience. I know there is certain levels of physics possible, and this is not one of those times. I have to give kudos to Samsung for making 1ghz, but a .35 nanometer process, they are hitting a brick wall. In comparison Snapdragon wins. I am not saying on some levels, but all levels.
 
BlueScreen said:
Pyro~

I am sorry for getting back to you late...With regard to hummingbird and Snapdragon processor question. (Is samsung galaxy S (hummingbird) processor faster than the qualcomm snapdragon processor?)

1) we already covered MTPS issue, 90 MTPS if you test the GPU alone sure

2) you asked if having a dedicated GPU would show gains for gaming or graphic intensive simulations? Yes and NO. Once again it is a double edge sword...having a dedicated GPU (Samsung Galaxy S) will work in your favor (At high battery cost) because you have two CPU/GPU that need to be fed(Battery). At the same time, Samsung GPU operates 200mhz and transfer data at 8kbits and there Achilles heal. I imagine if ther hub controller were able to hyper thread (Quad Pump 8 squared to the forth) on PCB. I think the Samsung would own. Alias this is not the case.
Snapdragon processor while it does have a integrated GPU, it's data transfer is 265k bits. I could go further to explain integers and regiistors, but that bore the begesus out of everyone.


3) Also the Snapdragon is at .13nanometers process and Hummingbird is 35.nanometer process. (lamen terms) I can put a snapdragon processor on my pinkie finger nail and humminbird w/GPU would take up a finger nail and a half.


4) the wattage usuage in the case of cell phones (milli=watts.) is profound and I think Samsung will have a tough time with battery life...(Speculation on that part)

Result,
From my experience, the smaller real estate a micro processor has, less power consumption, and more efficiency, and the ability to do more per CPU cycles. I once again say
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andiron wrote:
one more question.... and I know this has probably been talked about before....but I would truly appreciate knowing the advantages and disadvantages....if any...of buying directly from Sprint...or from Best Buy or Radio Shack....or even of buying online via Sprint....and then as a comparison Wirefly?
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This has been discussed a bit in this thread:
http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-4g/62157-buying-evo-bestbuy.html

However, I'm still debating where and how I'm going to purchase it.

Here are the overall positives/negatives that I have thought about so far:

Mortar and Brick Sprint Store:
-Best chance to negotiate on price or accessories added.
-Will probably have either best or competitive deal.
-Possibly like Verizon, can transfer your contact info to your new phone. (Not sure on that as I've been with Verizon)
-Can probably get the activation fee waived.
-Take phone home with you.
-Possibly get some tutorials or help if needed.
-Can adjust calling plan and other details as needed.
-Have to mail in rebate from what I've heard.
-30 day guarantee.

Online Sprint:
-As good a price as store, possibly better due to online promotions.
-Less ability to customize plan or change things.
-Have to download contacts to google or something else and then load them to new phone.
-Have to wait for phone delivery, 1 to 3 days possibly.
-Won't be able to waive activation fee unless they have a special running.
-No ability to negotiate on anything.
-Probably same deal on rebate, must be mailed in and then wait.
-30 day guarantee.

Best Buy:
-Instant Rebate - no mail in.
-May be able to get phone cheaper if they match or include different specials, etc..
-No idea on how much you can customize your account/plan/etc... (have never bought phone through Best Buy)

Wirefly:
-Seems like best price available on most phones, but it varies depending on carrier and phone.
-Can get $50 back on Bing Cashback program.
-Instant rebate or less cost matching a rebate price.
-30 day guarantee, they include a shipping label should you need to send it back.
-Usually get the phone next day on FedEx.
-If phone has problems, can still take it to an actual Sprint store for help or trade in.
-Sometimes can't customize the plans as you would want. Not sure how the EVP or SERO programs would be applied to account. Probably have to work through Sprint Customer Service to get applied discounts.
-Have to pay activation fee, Wirefly claims to have no ability to waive those.


That's all I can think of right now. For me it will come down to who has it listed at what price, and what options will I have control over by ordering through them.

I figure if I have waited as long as I have to get the phone, another day or 2 won't kill me. :)
 
PyroSporker said:
"(Quad Pump 8 squared to the forth) on PCB"...my brain just fried! :eek:


You're the man, I had forgotten all about my questions. Glad to see you back around today, the late nights have been quiet. Thanks for taking the chance to answer.

One quick clarification for stupidity's (my) sake. you mention the .13 nm process of the Snapdragon. From what I understand, the entire Snapdragon chip is 45nm, so basically .13nm of it is the real guts that take care of all the processes? Or is it a measurement of how fast the data travels or something (cycle time)?

Basically, you have the knowledge and the know how to back up the thinking I have been having in my feeble brain. What you have described is right along the same lines of my thoughts (only dumbed down) and you put my mind at ease about the Evo vs Galaxy S battle from a professional's point of view.
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Pyro~

I just think your knowledge is spot on and how refreshing it is to converse with someone out side my JET team. I want to first thank you on my ability to explain little about cell phone processors. I still would like to go on the record that I am a PC processors engineer and doing the best I can to put the pieces together.

First, let me give you uber kudos, cuz you are correct, with regard to the die size of a Snapdragon processor .45 nanometers! (Those that care, same die size of a Nvidia 285 GPU)

The Snapdragon processor has built in DSP (Digital Signal Processor), 3g radio, built in Wifi, and for EVO exclusive 720p codec, 3d GPU, and GPS processor, and a host of other stuff.

I make processors that just do computing and when I look under a microscope with all that stuff listed above...I am truly amazed...I look at it (Not Snapdragon, something similar) and all fits on on your pinkie nail!!!

Back to your post...I am impressed with you knowledge and you are correct. THe total die size of a Snapdragon processor is about .45nm, including all the stuff listed above. The .13nm would be the Snapdragon core CPU micro architecture. I was only able to find Samsung Humminbird core process specs using .35nm process technology and that is rather large for today standards, witch is the equal, to Intel p III microprocessors chip (ca.1997)

I guess to finish you question. Further die size has nothing to do with the ability to transfer data. to certain extent. Die size is more in the ability to transfer...(Okies Jocks hit me) electrons. If you have one metal layer (Copper (Cu)) or what ever your processor is made out of. That electron has to travels to whatever transistor that is going to in order to give a (Yes/No) signal. Then let’s pretend that you have 7 of those metal layers and that represents 7 million transistors. and that same electron has to go up and down the metal layers to turn activate a Yes/NO signal, but they have to do at 6,4GT/s (1 GT/s data rate would be 8x109 bytes/s)
You can see that is moving close to the speed of light ((When thinking of a electron moving up and down through 7 layers of metal) not data output). This resulted in the need for multi-core processors. To date the smallest Intel process is .07nm that equals 3 electrons wide. I would have to split a human hair a 100k times to equal the same.

So as you move electrons through a smaller pipe they naturally move faster w/less effort. Hence Samsung Galaxy at .35nm is just simply PWND compared to EVO..

BSOD>-_O<
 
Camslam said:
andiron wrote:


This has been discussed a bit in this thread:
http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-4g/62157-buying-evo-bestbuy.html

However, I'm still debating where and how I'm going to purchase it.

Here are the overall positives/negatives that I have thought about so far:

Mortar and Brick Sprint Store:
-Best chance to negotiate on price or accessories added.
-Will probably have either best or competitive deal.
-Possibly like Verizon, can transfer your contact info to your new phone. (Not sure on that as I've been with Verizon)
-Can probably get the activation fee waived.
-Take phone home with you.
-Possibly get some tutorials or help if needed.
-Can adjust calling plan and other details as needed.
-Have to mail in rebate from what I've heard.
-30 day guarantee.

Online Sprint:
-As good a price as store, possibly better due to online promotions.
-Less ability to customize plan or change things.
-Have to download contacts to google or something else and then load them to new phone.
-Have to wait for phone delivery, 1 to 3 days possibly.
-Won't be able to waive activation fee unless they have a special running.
-No ability to negotiate on anything.
-Probably same deal on rebate, must be mailed in and then wait.
-30 day guarantee.

Best Buy:
-Instant Rebate - no mail in.
-May be able to get phone cheaper if they match or include different specials, etc..
-No idea on how much you can customize your account/plan/etc... (have never bought phone through Best Buy)

Wirefly:
-Seems like best price available on most phones, but it varies depending on carrier and phone.
-Can get $50 back on Bing Cashback program.
-Instant rebate or less cost matching a rebate price.
-30 day guarantee, they include a shipping label should you need to send it back.
-Usually get the phone next day on FedEx.
-If phone has problems, can still take it to an actual Sprint store for help or trade in.
-Sometimes can't customize the plans as you would want. Not sure how the EVP or SERO programs would be applied to account. Probably have to work through Sprint Customer Service to get applied discounts.
-Have to pay activation fee, Wirefly claims to have no ability to waive those.


That's all I can think of right now. For me it will come down to who has it listed at what price, and what options will I have control over by ordering through them.

I figure if I have waited as long as I have to get the phone, another day or 2 won't kill me. :)
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as for best buy, i will tell you, they can do everything to your account that an independant sprint store can (which i think is the same as the corp. stores, but around here bestbuy is a little better then the indy stores or i have to drive 30 mins to a corp store). the prices at launch (of the palm pre) were the same as the sprint store MINUS the MFR. You can opt for the Best buy insurance on it OR the sprint insurance (or both if you are really paranoid b/c you can add the sprint insurance to your account for up to 30 days after purchase of the phone) BUT if you get the best buy insurance they charge your credit card monthly a set fee untill you cancel the insurance (same thing sprint does, but sprint just adds it to your bill) the employees are trained to show you things about the phones (but prob not as much as the sprint employees).

When the Pre was about to come out, i went around to 3 local (indy) sprint store and best buy to see how "available" it was going to be, they all assured me they were getting them in and i would be put on the "list" but best buy was the only place to get them in around here (6 of them, 30 people in line) and i even went by one of the indy stores (w/ HUGE corp style sprint sign outside) later that day and they said that no one had even told them about the pre going on sale that day. So i wil say, if you cant get by a copt sprint store that day, bestbuy is great also, or even better b/c of the no MFR thing
 
Camslam said:
andiron wrote:


This has been discussed a bit in this thread:
http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-4g/62157-buying-evo-bestbuy.html

However, I'm still debating where and how I'm going to purchase it.

Here are the overall positives/negatives that I have thought about so far:

Mortar and Brick Sprint Store:
-Best chance to negotiate on price or accessories added.
-Will probably have either best or competitive deal.
-Possibly like Verizon, can transfer your contact info to your new phone. (Not sure on that as I've been with Verizon)
-Can probably get the activation fee waived.
-Take phone home with you.
-Possibly get some tutorials or help if needed.
-Can adjust calling plan and other details as needed.
-Have to mail in rebate from what I've heard.
-30 day guarantee.

Online Sprint:
-As good a price as store, possibly better due to online promotions.
-Less ability to customize plan or change things.
-Have to download contacts to google or something else and then load them to new phone.
-Have to wait for phone delivery, 1 to 3 days possibly.
-Won't be able to waive activation fee unless they have a special running.
-No ability to negotiate on anything.
-Probably same deal on rebate, must be mailed in and then wait.
-30 day guarantee.

Best Buy:
-Instant Rebate - no mail in.
-May be able to get phone cheaper if they match or include different specials, etc..
-No idea on how much you can customize your account/plan/etc... (have never bought phone through Best Buy)

Wirefly:
-Seems like best price available on most phones, but it varies depending on carrier and phone.
-Can get $50 back on Bing Cashback program.
-Instant rebate or less cost matching a rebate price.
-30 day guarantee, they include a shipping label should you need to send it back.
-Usually get the phone next day on FedEx.
-If phone has problems, can still take it to an actual Sprint store for help or trade in.
-Sometimes can't customize the plans as you would want. Not sure how the EVP or SERO programs would be applied to account. Probably have to work through Sprint Customer Service to get applied discounts.
-Have to pay activation fee, Wirefly claims to have no ability to waive those.


That's all I can think of right now. For me it will come down to who has it listed at what price, and what options will I have control over by ordering through them.

I figure if I have waited as long as I have to get the phone, another day or 2 won't kill me. :)
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If you're a new customer, ordering through EVP will guarantee you your corporate discount starting with your first bill (correct me if I'm wrong). If you choose to go a different route, you would then have to wait a couple of billing cycles to get your discount applied. Personally, I'm torn between getting it first and at the cheapest price. I'm leaning towards wirefly / amazon.com because of their cheap prices and no MIRs--I remember Amazon having the Incredible for $99 w/ 2 year contract. Also, ordering through Sprint.com will net you $50 by using the code "SAVE50." I'm not sure how long that code will be available though.
 
BlueScreen said:
Pyro~

I just think your knowledge is spot on and how refreshing it is to converse with someone out side my JET team.
...
I make processors that just do computing and when I look under a microscope with all that stuff listed above...I am truly amazed...I look at it (Not Snapdragon, something similar) and all fits on on your pinkie nail!!!
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I guess to finish you question. Further die size has nothing to do with the ability to transfer data. to certain extent. Die size is more in the ability to transfer...(Okies Jocks hit me) electrons. If you have one metal layer (Copper (Cu)) or what ever your processor is made out of. That electron has to travels to whatever transistor that is going to in order to give a (Yes/No) signal. Then let&#8217;s pretend that you have 7 of those metal layers and that represents 7 million transistors. and that same electron has to go up and down the metal layers to turn activate a Yes/NO signal, but they have to do at 6,4GT/s (1 GT/s data rate would be 8x109 bytes/s)
You can see that is moving close to the speed of light ((When thinking of a electron moving up and down through 7 layers of metal) not data output). This resulted in the need for multi-core processors. To date the smallest Intel process is .07nm that equals 3 electrons wide. I would have to split a human hair a 100k times to equal the same.

So as you move electrons through a smaller pipe they naturally move faster w/less effort. Hence Samsung Galaxy at .35nm is just simply PWND compared to EVO..
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Hahaha, I mostly pretend like I know whats going on. ;)
Yeah, the leaps and bounds that have been made in computer processing technology have been absolutely astounding.
I can't believe the revolution in data storage. My parents first hard drive computer, was about as big as a sedan, even cost as much as a car then, and only held a fraction of the data we can these days. Now there are 64GB micro SD cards going to market soon (about the size of a pinkie nail). I hope one day I can get one to put in my Evo.

Remember floppy disks!?

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Jiminy Chrsitmas!
 
PyroSporker said:
Hahaha, I mostly pretend like I know whats going on. ;)
Yeah, the leaps and bounds that have been made in computer processing technology have been absolutely astounding.
I can't believe the revolution in data storage. My parents first hard drive computer, was about as big as a sedan, even cost as much as a car then, and only held a fraction of the data we can these days. Now there are 64GB micro SD cards going to market soon (about the size of a pinkie nail). I hope one day I can get one to put in my Evo.

Remember floppy disks!?
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Yes, it was a Atari 800XL with a cartridge and not a floppy. I was flipping Apple the bird then with there propriety nonsense. Even though the first piece of software I pirated was on a 5in floppy at PC store, it was apple program..Dungeon Quest in green Mono-Chrome screen. Nobody really could play it, because at the time nobody had computers...I had to sneek into my school..Hence the computer bug, got me like crack..Now only thing I have to show for it is the computer chip your using to run you PC ( 73% of America) I am still going EVO..crazy.
 
Thanks BlueScreen, I enjoyed your technical yet easily understandable description and comparison of the snapdragon and hummingbird. I'm curious if you have any inside info or just general knowledge of Intel's new mobile phone processors? It looks like thanks to their work and the next gen 45nm qualcomm snapdragons (1.3ghz and dual core 1.5ghz) that the next generation of mobile devices will quickly be approaching PC capability and power. It would be amazing to one day be able to replace my laptop and desktop with a phone sized device, and just wirelessly connect it to a monitor and keyboard/mouse to get serious work done. This is assuming someday they will be able to dual boot windows and android depending if office work or mobile duties are needed.

Intel outs Atom for Android and MeeGo smartphones | News | TechRadar UK

Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8672 - CPUlist | PDAdb.net - Comprehensive Database of PDA, PDA Phone, Smartphone, PNA & Mobile Device Specifications

Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8650A - CPUlist | PDAdb.net - Comprehensive Database of PDA, PDA Phone, Smartphone, PNA & Mobile Device Specifications
 
Lets talk about real speculation...EVO is going to come out when EVO comes out...The real deal is? I mean how much is 4G going to be the bomb? Where I live I cannot get DSL, Comcast, and Satelite could kiss my..okies. I have Cricket (LMFAO) wireless service and it works! I had to pay my bill and get this....I got an upgrade? They move my serve to 600k to 1.4mbs and my FAP was 5gigs to 10gigs at $20 dollar premium for a total of $60 dollars per mo. The area were I live is covered by 4G, I did not want to purchase Sprints Over Drive Puck to get 4G now, because it came with a 2 yr. contract amd I know EVO will work as a Hotspot. If I were add it all together and do the umlited to plan through Sprint/EVO=$100 bucks and the Hotspot option for extra $20 bucks (Est) I would get 5 times faster speed, but paying twice as much...I know that I would get an uber phone, but what about going over the 5gig fap..I mean if you go over 5gigs in a month, then it's .25 for every MB..that can add up fast?
 
Vyper said:
Hello everyone. Found this article just posted on engadget.com Sprint HTC EVO pre-orders start this month at The Shack -- Engadget

Basically shows pre-orders coming this month at Radio Shack.
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Yes and if you look closely at the screen shot it gives instructions for employees to log in to the "Answers Online" system to get more info about it. If there are any Shack employees here, the login page is here:
https://myweb.radioshack.com/ICSLogin/?"https://myweb.radioshack.com/"

Probably nothing new there, but you never know.
 
mogulust said:
Thanks BlueScreen, I enjoyed your technical yet easily understandable description and comparison of the snapdragon and hummingbird. I'm curious if you have any inside info or just general knowledge of Intel's new mobile phone processors? It looks like thanks to their work and the next gen 45nm qualcomm snapdragons (1.3ghz and dual core 1.5ghz) that the next generation of mobile devices will quickly be approaching PC capability and power. It would be amazing to one day be able to replace my laptop and desktop with a phone sized device, and just wirelessly connect it to a monitor and keyboard/mouse to get serious work done. This is assuming someday they will be able to dual boot windows and android depending if office work or mobile duties are needed.

Intel outs Atom for Android and MeeGo smartphones | News | TechRadar UK

Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8672 - CPUlist | PDAdb.net - Comprehensive Database of PDA, PDA Phone, Smartphone, PNA & Mobile Device Specifications

Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8650A - CPUlist | PDAdb.net - Comprehensive Database of PDA, PDA Phone, Smartphone, PNA & Mobile Device Specifications
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I have to say, I love these question and this (Intel) is what live for..(Peeps in the Skunk works) I will do my best to answer this question.

1) First and for most this is a Android thread and more importantly a EVO thread. Android 2.2 is going to be shipped with EVO..periode! The Wimax portion is a add on. I can't say much more that! It is a joint venture between a lot of smart people that made happen, (Flawlessly, it will now know when 4g available and automatically switch to and from 3g/4g)) The last one is that yes Vo4G is real and will be part of the Sprint WiMax network (all can say is the software is done and what Sprint does with it is up to them) The final one is the software for video conferencing is done and we have finished!!! (Thank goodness, not much sleep over that one!)

Wimax software is coded for four people to chat via the front facing camera. The best we could do for video conference and was coded into the Wimax radio. To be honest 4 people video/chatting takes up to 3.2mbs bandwith average (tested) Sprints 4g network is 4-6mbps average and 3.2mbs for would provide (and does) provide for seamless video chat.

I know that we have done the best we can and been following this EVO thread. The WiMax test lab (Can&#8217;t say the company) like to say thanks for everything. The tweaks are done and everything from a WiMax perspective is complete done. Every WiMax option you could hope fore has been sent to Sprint to easily update 4G portion hardware of the phone. I hope this helps you for the next couple or weeks, maybe a month..

2) Intel is the only company right now can process chips at .07nm process, that being said...Yes companies contract out to process there chips and they do get tweak by us. Intel has always process mobile chips, for different companies and there own. .That is how I now certain measurements about, certain CPU cores. .I can say from a engineer perspective Snapdragon is technological a work of art.

3) Future processors. This is something I can talk about. Yes, played with quad core processor for mobile CPU's designed for mobile phones. I have personally seen dual core processors being manufactured for mobile phones with positive yield. I want to express these chips are expensive and base off price it will be awhile, before they are going into mass production. I have to leave it at that, with respect to whom the processors are for.

4) The possibility of running a similar Intel processor (4 or 6 core processor) is way off in the future, but it will happen! Until then we only supply our ability to shrink things and make them...say mobile? You have to remember it&#8217;s not so much the speed of the core processor as it the ability of the core processor to communicate with all the integrated devices, GPS, 720p codec, 3D GPU, FM Radio, and in EVO case 4g radio. If this entire device on one chip or die can communicate at this 1.3, 1.5 ghz on single or dual core processor would be awesome. It is from my experience this is a ways out unless some uber battery technology pops up.

5) let me go on the record that EVO will be the bench mark for at least the end of the year (Spec Wise) but the 4G network technology is going to carry all of us way beyond micro processors speeds, MP camera abilities, 1080p video capture, and etc.. If you don&#8217;t have the bandwidth to share it. You don&#8217;t have a phone you got a hybrid Video/Camera device periode..

I want to go on the record saying...I am not a Sprint customer, not a Sprint product holder, just a beliver in there 4G technology.
 
BlueScreen said:
I have to say, I love these question and this (Intel) is what live for..(Peeps in the Skunk works) I will do my best to answer this question.

1) First and for most this is a Android thread and more importantly a EVO thread. Android 2.2 is going to be shipped with EVO..periode!
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Thank You for that very informative post! Im just making sure im reading this correctly but......Is Evo shipping with 2.2 :eek:??? Was that a typo or did you actually mean it? I know you cant say much but a simple nod would do ;)
 
xXSecretAgentXx said:
Thank You for that very informative post! Im just making sure im reading this correctly but......Is Evo shipping with 2.2 :eek:??? Was that a typo or did you actually mean it? I know you cant say much but a simple nod would do ;)
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/nod, please don't ask to much more..I can so be fired. I have been following this thread like everyone else for awhile. I understand we just need a little info.


BSOD>-_O<
 
BlueScreen said:
I have to say, I love these question and this (Intel) is what live for..(Peeps in the Skunk works) I will do my best to answer this question.

1) First and for most this is a Android thread and more importantly a EVO thread. Android 2.2 is going to be shipped with EVO..periode! The Wimax portion is a add on. I can't say much more that! It is a joint venture between a lot of smart people that made happen, (Flawlessly, it will now know when 4g available and automatically switch to and from 3g/4g)) The last one is that yes Vo4G is real and will be part of the Sprint WiMax network (all can say is the software is done and what Sprint does with it is up to them) The final one is the software for video conferencing is done and we have finished!!! (Thank goodness, not much sleep over that one!)

Wimax software is coded for four people to chat via the front facing camera. The best we could do for video conference and was coded into the Wimax radio. To be honest 4 people video/chatting takes up to 3.2mbs bandwith average (tested) Sprints 4g network is 4-6mbps average and 3.2mbs for would provide (and does) provide for seamless video chat.

I know that we have done the best we can and been following this EVO thread. The WiMax test lab (Can
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Well all the ''sources'' seem to claim it having 2.1 so i was kinda shocked reading your post. In any case , you don't look like someone who would just throw rumors around. I'm taking your word for it and thank you for your post :)
 
Novoken said:
Any cliffs notes? Been busy.
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The newest and spiciest piece of info is that a prototype EVO had a white backplate. Ha.

Past that, Oprah showed off an EVO for about 20 seconds. Nothing interesting there.

I doubt you've missed anything. At this point, I think we're pretty squarely in "wait for the 12th" land.
 
BlueScreen said:
1) First and for most this is a Android thread and more importantly a EVO thread. Android 2.2 is going to be shipped with EVO..periode! The Wimax portion is a add on. I can't say much more that! It is a joint venture between a lot of smart people that made happen, (Flawlessly, it will now know when 4g available and automatically switch to and from 3g/4g)) The last one is that yes Vo4G is real and will be part of the Sprint WiMax network (all can say is the software is done and what Sprint does with it is up to them) The final one is the software for video conferencing is done and we have finished!!! (Thank goodness, not much sleep over that one!)

Wimax software is coded for four people to chat via the front facing camera. The best we could do for video conference and was coded into the Wimax radio. To be honest 4 people video/chatting takes up to 3.2mbs bandwith average (tested) Sprints 4g network is 4-6mbps average and 3.2mbs for would provide (and does) provide for seamless video chat.

I know that we have done the best we can and been following this EVO thread. The WiMax test lab (Can&#8217;t say the company) like to say thanks for everything. The tweaks are done and everything from a WiMax perspective is complete done. Every WiMax option you could hope fore has been sent to Sprint to easily update 4G portion hardware of the phone. I hope this helps you for the next couple or weeks, maybe a month..
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WOW...this is pretty heavy hitting...I'm taken a back a bit with the assertion that Evo will ship with 2.2.
 
xXSecretAgentXx said:
Well all the ''sources'' seem to claim it having 2.1 so i was kinda shocked reading your post. In any case , you don't look like someone who would just throw rumors around. I'm taking your word for it and thank you for your post :)
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I would be the same as you, if were not for tonight and I saw the update for my own eyes. I saw a up and running EVO 2.2 eclair. My team got there arse kicked to get this wimax code out. To make Intel, Google, HTC, and Sprint happy.

I thought piss on it...I have followed this thread and were all pissed that Sprint has not come forward withf something..I am sitting here fior the last month writing BS code as a Micro processor engineer. I can do it anymore...You guys got it...it is what it is happy May Xmas...or June. The tidbits of info about the Wimax software is it..It's 2.2 btw...You'll see it on your EVO

BSOD>-_O<

BSOD>-_O<
 
BlueScreen said:
/nod, please don't ask to much more..I can so be fired. I have been following this thread like everyone else for awhile. I understand we just need a little info.


BSOD>-_O<
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2.2 makes sense. Google IO is May 18-20. It is widely speculated that Android 2.2 will be announced (likely released to the attendees) during Google IO......I am sure Google would not allow anyone (Sprint) to announce the fact the a device would have 2.2 until after Google makes their annoncement.
 
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