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just cause it is 1500 mAh doesn't mean it will work... it has to be the correct dimensions for the slot and pins and everything... according to a few posts recently the TP2 battery will NOT work (nor will the hero's) because the EVO's battery is longer... which makes sense... why put the same sized battery in a much bigger phone... there is alot more room in this bad boy, they might as well help out in the battery department

If the battery is a RHOD160 1500 mAH battery - it will work in the Evo... End of Story.

They will not change the battery due to the FCC filings stating that the phone comes with and is used by a RHOD160.

If anyone would like to argue this, please go ahead. The battery shipping with the phone is a RHOD160.

http://www.engadget.com/photos/htc-evo-4g-hands-on-0/#2826120
http://www.wirelessground.com/htcsnapoembt.html
 
So does that mean even though my generic one was made for the Touch Pro 2 but isn't the original OEM and is only 1400 mAh it won't work? I have the original from my touch pro 2 and an extra generic one..

If the battery is a RHOD160 1500 mAH battery - it will work in the Evo... End of Story.

They will not change the battery due to the FCC filings stating that the phone comes with and is used by a RHOD160.

If anyone would like to argue this, please go ahead. The battery shipping with the phone is a RHOD160.

HTC EVO 4G hands-on - Engadget Galleries
HTC 1500mAh Standard Lithium Ion Battery - Original (OEM) RHOD160 35H00123-11M
 
is there any smartphone that will last all day (at least 12 hours) while using heavy internet browsing, wifi, etc? no phone im aware of will do that as most need to be charged at some point during the day usually thru computer or a car charger. i dont see the evo being any different. theres no way it will last all day so it will be charged at my desk at work during the day. i think i will invest in an extra battery at some point though.
 
is there any smartphone that will last all day (at least 12 hours) while using heavy internet browsing, wifi, etc? no phone im aware of will do that as most need to be charged at some point during the day usually thru computer or a car charger. i dont see the evo being any different. theres no way it will last all day so it will be charged at my desk at work during the day. i think i will invest in an extra battery at some point though.

Not really. Big touch screens, fast processors, 3g radios, gps, wifi, bluetooth, etc. all conspire to drain that battery. The flip side is that everyone wants a thin sexy device. Until battery tech improves drastically, higher capacity batteries in small form factors will continue to be rare and/or expensive.
 
is there any smartphone that will last all day (at least 12 hours) while using heavy internet browsing, wifi, etc? no phone im aware of will do that as most need to be charged at some point during the day usually thru computer or a car charger. i dont see the evo being any different. theres no way it will last all day so it will be charged at my desk at work during the day. i think i will invest in an extra battery at some point though.


Probably not going to see phones that can last 12 hours until there's a change in battery technology. Perhaps there is some efficiency left to gain from improvements, but I'd see it more likely being something like built-in solar power collection if that's even possible.

I'll be recharging mine on the go with a JustMobile Gum 4400mah portable battery charger that I use for most of my gadgets. I don't even bother with spare batteries any more. The Gum's 2.125" x 3" x .875" and gives me enough charge to get my iPod Touch 2G, Canon SD870IS camera, and cell phone one charge each if I'm out all day using them all.

I do wish batteries could last all day, but I consider phone battery tech not too bad considering my laptop can't last 3 hours of even casual use with not even many programs open and running.
 
is there any smartphone that will last all day (at least 12 hours) while using heavy internet browsing, wifi, etc?

As others have said, the hardware options are limited. However, there are several Android apps that can help you conserve your battery power. A "traffic cop" like JuiceDefender/UltimateJuice, Y5 and APN Switch is one type, and an automatic profile switcher like Locale, Timeriffic or Tasker is another type.
 
Not really. Big touch screens, fast processors, 3g radios, gps, wifi, bluetooth, etc. all conspire to drain that battery. The flip side is that everyone wants a thin sexy device. Until battery tech improves drastically, higher capacity batteries in small form factors will continue to be rare and/or expensive.

thats what i figured so it just seemed to me that all the talk about how big the battery would be was kinda moot because youre going to have to charge it at some point during the day anyways.
 
is there any smartphone that will last all day (at least 12 hours) while using heavy internet browsing, wifi, etc? no phone im aware of will do that as most need to be charged at some point during the day usually thru computer or a car charger. i dont see the evo being any different. theres no way it will last all day so it will be charged at my desk at work during the day. i think i will invest in an extra battery at some point though.


well, i have a car that will last over a month on a single tank of gas. i don't drive it much, and most places i go to are fairly close.:rolleyes:
 
If anyone would like to argue this, please go ahead. The battery shipping with the phone is a RHOD160.

This will be my last post, so its goodbye, it was fun while it lasted. And I am NOT going to the other place. Just wanted to say goodbye to good people here, it has been fun and real, and yes it has been real fun.

The RHOD160 battery may or may not be the battery shipped with the phone. The fcc filing cant support that or refute that.

A manifacture can change the type and brand of battery as long as it is not expected to change the radio and radiation in anyway. You can also send them any number of batteries stating that they are all going to be SHIPPED with the device. They will test all of the batteries and only post the battery that is marked as standard.

After the test, the manufacture can change any removable components and submit and update to reflect that.

Regardless of all that, it is very likely that the battery will be the rhod160. It is already used in phones, proven and reliable, and cheaply made and packaged.

To see the EIRP it is clear that the EVO has great battery management tools, which again tells me that the phone does not need a bigger battery.

Bottom line, dont change what is not broken.
 
Finally decided to post after 50 pages or so of lurking.

I don't believe that the upcoming "surprises" can have anything to do with hardware, since the specs are now public (FCC documentation et.al.). Therefore it must be software-related.

I think the most likely story is that features they claimed to be "still working on" will be activated, and/or the necessary software completed. Video chat, simultaneous voice and data use, the 2.2 update, and/or a major Flash-oriented app such as Hulu are my best guesses. I can't think of any other "surprises" that would be worthy of their own press releases, and not be a let-down when they're made public.

I'm thinking Netflix app, with streaming to phone in 4G areas. That would be SWEEET! Just my speculation.
 
This will be my last post, so its goodbye, it was fun while it lasted. And I am NOT going to the other place. Just wanted to say goodbye to good people here, it has been fun and real, and yes it has been real fun.

The RHOD160 battery may or may not be the battery shipped with the phone. The fcc filing cant support that or refute that.

A manifacture can change the type and brand of battery as long as it is not expected to change the radio and radiation in anyway. You can also send them any number of batteries stating that they are all going to be SHIPPED with the device. They will test all of the batteries and only post the battery that is marked as standard.

After the test, the manufacture can change any removable components and submit and update to reflect that.

Regardless of all that, it is very likely that the battery will be the rhod160. It is already used in phones, proven and reliable, and cheaply made and packaged.

To see the EIRP it is clear that the EVO has great battery management tools, which again tells me that the phone does not need a bigger battery.

Bottom line, dont change what is not broken.

I don't know you but read everything you post because you have valuable information (and a smart cookie to boot - from one woman to another). I really do enjoy your thoughts and speculation..

Maybe one day you will reconsider for those of us who enjoy it :)
 
This will be my last post, so its goodbye, it was fun while it lasted. And I am NOT going to the other place. Just wanted to say goodbye to good people here, it has been fun and real, and yes it has been real fun.

The RHOD160 battery may or may not be the battery shipped with the phone. The fcc filing cant support that or refute that.

A manifacture can change the type and brand of battery as long as it is not expected to change the radio and radiation in anyway. You can also send them any number of batteries stating that they are all going to be SHIPPED with the device. They will test all of the batteries and only post the battery that is marked as standard.

After the test, the manufacture can change any removable components and submit and update to reflect that.

Regardless of all that, it is very likely that the battery will be the rhod160. It is already used in phones, proven and reliable, and cheaply made and packaged.

To see the EIRP it is clear that the EVO has great battery management tools, which again tells me that the phone does not need a bigger battery.

Bottom line, dont change what is not broken.

I made a bet with myself that it would either be you or Gekko to reply to me with that quote.

Am I 100% sure the Evo will come with RHOD160? No. 95%+, yes, as you pretty much agree as well.

Have fun River, whereever you're headed. Indeed, I did appreciate your posts as they were extremely informative and semi-fun (who is she gonna bash now) to read.

Cheers.
 
Looks like Sprint took Verizon's lead. No more N1, in order to focus all efforts on EVO promotion:

Sprint Nixes Nexus One - PCWorld

Makes sense really. I was excited about the N1 when I first heard about it but the Evo is basically an improvement on all fronts. The only reasons I can think someone would want a N1 over an Evo are either they prefer a smaller device or they prefer stock Android.

The first part is a legit preference but I'm sure there will be stock ROMs for the Evo shortly after release.
 
wow the forum isn't moving like before. i've been a lurker and today i decided to post. i don't have to read through 5 pages just to catch up. discussion has been really limited and more much going on. everyone who got banned previously seemed to be the main posters
 
Since the N1 was suppose to launch in May. I wonder if this is setting us up for an earlier than June 6 release. We still haven't heard anymore on the surprised Dan Hesse promised. May would be a great surprise.
 
Since the N1 was suppose to launch in May. I wonder if this is setting us up for an earlier than June 6 release. We still haven't heard anymore on the surprised Dan Hesse promised. May would be a great surprise.

I honestly think his comments about "surprises" are more along the lines of some features/apps that were not confirmed or outlined at CTIA. I'm still betting on June 6th if only because my upgrade eligibility isn't until June 1st :)
 
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Report: Google Android surpasses iPhone in U.S.



by Marguerite Reardon

Google's Android operating system edged out Apple's iPhone operating system for the No. 2 spot in the U.S. consumer smartphone market in the first quarter, research firm NPD Group reported Monday.
According to NPD, devices running Android accounted for 28 percent of the units sold to U.S. consumers in the first quarter of 2010. BlackBerry devices made by Research In Motion, which use RIM's homegrown operating system, took the top spot with 36 percent of the U.S. market. Apple's iPhone, which had been in the No. 2 spot previously, fell to third place with 21 percent of the market.

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This chart shows the sharp growth in Google Android phones among consumers in the U.S. market compared to other smartphone operating systems.
(Credit: NPD Group)
NPD's figures are based on self-reported consumer surveys and they estimate the number of devices sold to consumers. The figures do not include sales of devices to business customers through enterprise contracts.
Android is an operating system that is available on several different models of phones made by different manufacturers, such as Motorola, HTC, and Samsung. Meanwhile, Apple's operating system is used only on Apple's own iPhone.
Ross Rubin, an analyst with NPD, attributed the strong growth in Android to the fact that devices using Android software are now available on all major U.S. carrier networks. Verizon Wireless, in particular, has helped fuel success for the operating system. Verizon launched a major marketing campaign for devices, such as the Motorola Droid, last year. And Verizon, the largest U.S. wireless operator, has also been including Android devices in its buy-one-get-one free smartphone promotion. T-Mobile USA also features Android phones as its flagship smartphones, and AT&T has begun selling Android phones.
"The wireless carriers in the U.S. are still the king makers in the mobile market," said Rubin. "Verizon in particular is what is making the Android so successful right now with its promotions and marketing."
Rubin said that strong sales of the Motorola Droid, HTC Droid Eris, and RIM's Blackberry Curve via these promotions have helped keep Verizon's smartphone sales on par with AT&T in the first quarter. NPD's data suggests that smartphone sales at AT&T account for nearly a third of the entire smartphone market, about 32 percent. Verizon Wireless accounted for 30 percent of smartphone sales. T-Mobile made up 17 percent of all smartphone sales and Sprint brought in 15 percent of all smartphone sales.
There is no question that Apple's iPhone is still very popular. Last month, AT&T reported that it had activated about 900,000 iPhones for new customers during the first quarter. It also sold another 1.8 million iPhones to people who were already AT&T customers. Without the iPhone, AT&T's subscriber growth for contract customers would have been negative.
But the NPD findings suggest that sales of the phone could be even higher in the U.S. if the device was available on other carrier networks, such as Verizon Wireless. Reports surfaced in March that the iPhone could be coming to Verizon soon. But definite plans for a Verizon iPhone have still not been announced.
"If the iPhone was available today on Verizon, Apple would certainly grow market share," Rubin said. "But it's harder to say what will happen in the long term. It's difficult to know what the feature-set will look like on phones in a year. But it's clear the iPhone still has enough cachet today to pick up market share."
 
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