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[Official] G2 reviews

nj02vette said:
Just because the one metric to you is important doesn't mean the screen is suddenly lackluster. Perhaps more people find it important to have the higher PPI for reading?

I love myself a good car analogy. Take a sports car that has the fastest 0-60 time, fastest 1/4 mile, best braking, best lap time, and yet has a 3rd place lateral g measurement. Does that make it not a great sports car?

Hardware wise is probably the fastest thing out there. Display size/Package size ratio is unequaled. And it's display quality is maybe 2nd or 3rd best out of flagship phones (and 99% better than most every other phone out there).

Now tell me that unimpressive. :D
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PPI is worthless. We all know that. Resolution is also not that important, unless in a peeing contest. Moto X proved that Apple (conservative) way is just fine in this day and age.

For an average person, i would bet that brightness (aka readability outside) is far more important than PPI and resolution...and since all screens nowadays are very pixel-densed (above 320PPI), i would go even further to say that brightness is the MOST important feature of a display. 2nd? Color accuracy. Everything else is of little importance to me (and most folks).

So, although the article tries to be neutral and fair, you have to see thru it and get what is MOST IMPORTANT to you...or in this case, me (and probably most avg folks). I learn this the hard way with my Note 2.

Your car analogy does not work. If you know cars, then you know that a car can't be all #1s in those categories and suck at lateral g. They are all inter-related. Not so with a phone display! Phone display stands out as an independent factor in a phone experience. Software can correct color accuracy to "some" degree, but brightness is not correctable with aftersale software updates...at least, none that i know of recently.

Most folks and I don't care about LG Viper or those other 99% phones that you buy at Walmart for pre-paid services. What i care about is how G2 compares with its peers, its competitors, and its class. Remember, by the time that G2 comes out, its internals are no better than its modern peers. Its camera is great among Android (for now), but may not be much better (if at all) than iP 5S.

Impressive? Yes. But, a disappointing display is a disappointing display. Notice that not one review/preview said that G2 display was class-leading. Not one. Until i can get my hands on it, i find this a bit disappointing. Remember, LG introduced this display as being the latest and greatest among ALL screens.
 
Damn dude. Big time pessimist? The screen is among the best out there. That's fine with me. A 5" screen at this point in the game isn't going to get much better. It's going to be glorious.
 
Take a look at the display section on GSMarena review of G2 I posted above. G2 got 667 nits at max brightness, right on par with One and iPhone5 near the top. Not sure why there is discrepancy with anandtech chart.

In any case, believe me G2 screen should be plenty bright, especially compared to AMOLED screens on most Samsung and Motorola phones. Just because there are even brighter LCD screens doesn't make it poor screen in brightness.
 
LG stated in their press release that their newest 5.2" LCD screen in theory has 535 nits max. So yeah...I trust anandtech over anyone any day of the week.
 
tigmd99 said:
LG stated in their press release that their newest 5.2" LCD screen in theory has 535 nits max. So yeah...I trust anandtech over anyone any day of the week.
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Even so, it's still brighter than any AMOLED (including note 2) by big margin. Get over it. G2 is not perfect but screen brightness is not something to worry about.
 
Well we should all know soon enough since some G2s are now being seen in the wild. With any luck, I won't have any trouble finding one on Thursday so I can give this thing the old once over before making my final decision.
 
tigmd99 said:
PPI is worthless. We all know that. Resolution is also not that important, unless in a peeing contest. Moto X proved that Apple (conservative) way is just fine in this day and age.

For an average person, i would bet that brightness (aka readability outside) is far more important than PPI and resolution...and since all screens nowadays are very pixel-densed (above 320PPI), i would go even further to say that brightness is the MOST important feature of a display. 2nd? Color accuracy. Everything else is of little importance to me (and most folks).

So, although the article tries to be neutral and fair, you have to see thru it and get what is MOST IMPORTANT to you...or in this case, me (and probably most avg folks). I learn this the hard way with my Note 2.

Your car analogy does not work. If you know cars, then you know that a car can't be all #1s in those categories and suck at lateral g. They are all inter-related. Not so with a phone display! Phone display stands out as an independent factor in a phone experience. Software can correct color accuracy to "some" degree, but brightness is not correctable with aftersale software updates...at least, none that i know of recently.

Most folks and I don't care about LG Viper or those other 99% phones that you buy at Walmart for pre-paid services. What i care about is how G2 compares with its peers, its competitors, and its class. Remember, by the time that G2 comes out, its internals are no better than its modern peers. Its camera is great among Android (for now), but may not be much better (if at all) than iP 5S.

Impressive? Yes. But, a disappointing display is a disappointing display. Notice that not one review/preview said that G2 display was class-leading. Not one. Until i can get my hands on it, i find this a bit disappointing. Remember, LG introduced this display as being the latest and greatest among ALL screens.
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Wow, you have little perspective here. Its either the best, or it sucks. The car analogy was apt, as I said it was 3rd in lateral Gs. And if you looked at the other metrics I listed, a car can indeed have be best in all those categories and not have top lateral Gs. Superior HP and braking are a bit more important for those listed.

I think you need to realize that most reviewers got early release samples. And if I remember correctly, Anandtech was a quick review, not in depth.

Finally, you seem to mention average consumers. But most consumers have chosen Samsung phones for Android. You know, the ones with SAMOLED displays that are neither bright nor have decent color accuracy. So you are flat out wrong. People don't care about those things.

You'll either like the device or not when released. It certainly may be disappointing to you. But by the other responses here, its clear your in the minority with your opinion on the display.
 
iowabowtech said:
All,
We are straight up done talking about the brightness factor. Every point that needs made has been made. Let's talk about other things related to the G2.

Thanks,
IBT
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Agreed.

I (and most average people [and I know because I can read everyone's minds]) am looking forward to looking this thing over tomorrow in the store!

:D
 
Oh, and not sure if you guys have seen this Phonedog review.

There is also a part 2.

Only 2 negatives I see are the fingerprint magnet aspect of it (around 9:05) and the fact that the Knock On feature seems to not work intermittently.

A CSR told me that Verizon will only be carrying the black version, too. Blows.
 
HanSolo said:
I (and most average people [and I know because I can read everyone's minds]) am looking forward to looking this thing over tomorrow in the store!

:D
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Me too, I hope. I'm waiting to hear back from my guy as to whether he'll have any and if he'll accidentally misplace one until I get there. ;)
 
HanSolo said:
Oh, and not sure if you guys have seen this Phonedog review.

There is also a part 2.

Only 2 negatives I see are the fingerprint magnet aspect of it (around 9:05) and the fact that the Knock On feature seems to not work intermittently.

A CSR told me that Verizon will only be carrying the black version, too. Blows.
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That's confirmed from Verizon in a press release. The explanation is that the Verizon version will be the only one to also get wireless charging.

iowabowtech said:
Me too, I hope. I'm waiting to hear back from my guy as to whether he'll have any and if he'll accidentally misplace one until I get there. ;)
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And???
 
I see the Verizon version is thicker because of wireless charging. I wonder what its spec thickness is compared to the nominal spec thickness for the G2.
 
nj02vette said:
That's confirmed from Verizon in a press release. The explanation is that the Verizon version will be the only one to also get wireless charging.


And???
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Strike out. My usual sources don't have any in stock for sale tomorrow. There's a few to be had but at the larger corporates and they're not doing me any favors. I may just leave this one up to destiny. If I can find one great. If no, I may see it as a sign to wait.
 
nj02vette said:
That's confirmed from Verizon in a press release. The explanation is that the Verizon version will be the only one to also get wireless charging.


And???
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That's typical VZ bull. It has to be black because of wireless charging? Where's the logic in that?

This might be a deal breaker for me. If the Note 3 wasn't coming next month, I'd probably grin and bear it. But it is so hard for me to choose between the two regardless, this might be the thing that tips me towards the N3.
 
Let me be the first to say that i might be wrong with the G2's display brightness. This is what i get for trusting Anandtech so much! :D

Link: LG G2 review: An Android phone like any other | TechHive

The review is crap. But, it did mention how bright the display is and has a picture of G2 in somewhat sunny condition:
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So, as of now, i stand corrected. Sorry guys. LG G2 is back on my short list...now, if only Sprint would let me order it! :p Like i said above, display brightness is a MAJOR point for me due to what i use my phone for.
 
HanSolo said:
That's typical VZ bull. It has to be black because of wireless charging? Where's the logic in that?

This might be a deal breaker for me.
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Talked to a VZ rep and they said white will be coming, just not upon release. AT&T is in the same boat, black only on release (at least that's all I could find on their site). T-mobile I think is going to have white when they release it on the 18th so maybe we just have to wait a week?
 
tigmd99 said:
Let me be the first to say that i might be wrong with the G2's display brightness. This is what i get for trusting Anandtech so much! :D

Link: LG G2 review: An Android phone like any other | TechHive

The review is crap. But, it did mention how bright the display is and has a picture of G2 in somewhat sunny condition:
lg-g2-100053703-large.jpg


So, as of now, i stand corrected. Sorry guys. LG G2 is back on my short list...now, if only Sprint would let me order it! :p Like i said above, display brightness is a MAJOR point for me due to what i use my phone for.
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Anandtech usually does pretty good work, but sometimes makes mistakes. As I said, early software could have been a culprit. Also, not impossible the reviewer didn't understand all the software customizations and turn off auto brightness and pump it up to 11 before taking the measurements.

That's why I like to read as many reviews as possible.
 
HanSolo said:
That's typical VZ bull. It has to be black because of wireless charging? Where's the logic in that?

This might be a deal breaker for me. If the Note 3 wasn't coming next month, I'd probably grin and bear it. But it is so hard for me to choose between the two regardless, this might be the thing that tips me towards the N3.
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Being in the engineering and design world, it might have some logic. You need to design a different back, and the marketing folks decide that they'll only make one color and look at the demand. No one wants to make something that might not sell.

Just speculation.

Oh, and I picked it up today.
 
tigmd99 said:
Link: Samsung Galaxy S4 vs. LG G2: Neighbor squabble - GSMArena.com

LG G2 actually looked worst than GS4 under sunlight!! :confused:
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They also rated the G2 screen brightness of 667 nits, which is different from every other review, and above what your own research says the max for the display.

All I can say is the S4 display pales in comparison. Not only is it not nearly as bright or color accurate, but you can't see it near as well in the sun.
 
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