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Official Price/Date Reveal Today???
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g_patrick15
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With the lack of other options to the consumer, the Xoom may be dead on arrival. No one (outside of the tech guru's who browse sites and forums like this) will buy this model if it's the only choice. The most popular iPad is the basic entry level model. Not a lot of people have the highest end model in comparision to the lower spec'ed edition. Apple came in and single handedly established a market. When a market is set, it's not a wise idea to go against the grain. I know the Xoom will be a great tablet, and to be honest the $800is not too far from what I expected to pay anyway. But I want a wifi only model. Hell, I don't think I even need 32gb. Give me a 16gb wifi-only model for $500-600 and Motorola would have themselves a happy customer.
Homan13PSU
Android Enthusiast
Right now I'm a no go in terms of buying this. First off, I don't need the full 32 gigs this thing ships with, and the proposed $800 is out of my price range. I'm hoping in time Moto truly competes with Apple and releases a 16 gig, WiFi only version. That would totally be in my wheel house.
I have the extra cash to buy this tablet @ that price point. I was 100% sure I'd buy until today after hearing they may impose a $20 dollar + activation fee along with my xoom. In grand scheme of things whats another "maybe" $50 bucks more on top of $800 + taxes not much. Though somewhere inside me I'm like why should I have to do this if I don't even want maintain this 3G service after the month. I bought the device I should be able walk away with it and use it's wifi, and be done with it. I'm paying extra for nothing, plus the added work of going and cancel the service after the month. Bad move on VZ, and moto part with that crap.
The $800 price for this thing is out of line. It will sell, but I would be surprised if Sales impressed anyone by the end of the year. Tying it to Verizon, even for 1 month, is just insulting to users. At $800, we should just be able to by a functional device with zero strings attached. If we have to have strings it should come heavily subsidized.
All I want is wifi only. I will wait and see what the rip off for that is first. I'm also waiting to hear what HTC puts out as a 10 inch tab coming in June. I'm not interested in a 7 inch tab.
We would all be better off if people would hold off buying these at all until pricing is more reasonable. The more people buy these with hooks, the more we encourage others to follow suit. The only way we can send the industry a message is by not buying at these prices or conditions.
All I want is wifi only. I will wait and see what the rip off for that is first. I'm also waiting to hear what HTC puts out as a 10 inch tab coming in June. I'm not interested in a 7 inch tab.
We would all be better off if people would hold off buying these at all until pricing is more reasonable. The more people buy these with hooks, the more we encourage others to follow suit. The only way we can send the industry a message is by not buying at these prices or conditions.
howarmat
Android Expert
if it was 600-700 i would get it, 800 is a slap in the face as mentioned i think. the 20 for the first month data i dont care about. They will waive activation if you ask (VZW store not BB probably) so im not worried about that either. I honestly think the ad is a hoax because we saw the damn thing in VZW inventory as 699 pricing
StreakTheQuad
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Don't forget the $35 vzw activation fee. Sure I can afford it, but i'd rather pay for value, not because vzw/moto think their customers are stupid or have no other options.
The truth the matter is that Apple has a huge hold on the market for tablets. Spec don't mean shit to most the masses. A potential buyer for instance goes to BestBuy says to himself he wants 10 inch tablet. From the bottom to top that Apple iPad offers a large amount of choices to fit his needs. Then theres the Xoom that destroys the Apple iPad top tier tablet, but is 800 dollars. The fact is most people don't buy top the line, typically they buy lowest entry price or middle of the road. The Xoom doesn't fill any of those roles. Those 80 bucks that you think don't mean shit (32/3G iPad vs. Xoom) means a lot to most people. If they didn't "need" camaras for instance to have them.
These are "want" items not "need" so keep that in mind also. A lot people may end up buying xooms, but only when it hits the price they feel its worth to them. The tab is a perfect example of that. They keep finding ways to drop the price of that tablet till someone says "hey for that price why not". I was going to buy a tab for Christmas, but decided to wait to see what apple, and android would show in 1st quarter. I'm glad I waited because the choices now are so much better than tab. So I think I can wait a little longer to see how this all pans out.
These are "want" items not "need" so keep that in mind also. A lot people may end up buying xooms, but only when it hits the price they feel its worth to them. The tab is a perfect example of that. They keep finding ways to drop the price of that tablet till someone says "hey for that price why not". I was going to buy a tab for Christmas, but decided to wait to see what apple, and android would show in 1st quarter. I'm glad I waited because the choices now are so much better than tab. So I think I can wait a little longer to see how this all pans out.
knappkd
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Yeah, the activation fee hurts. Gonna have to try to have this waived. This data thing is the only thing really bothering me. The price of the device at 799 seems reasonable to me. I think we will see the ipad2 priced higher than this.
knappkd
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The whole data pricing is a moot point. I just looked up verizons return policy.....
"You may terminate service for any reason within 14 days of activation. If you purchased a wireless device at a promotional price at the time of activation, you must return it within the device return period to avoid being assessed an Early Termination Fee of $175, or $350 if you purchased an Advanced Device. You will remain responsible for your Activation Fee unless you terminate service within three days of activation. You will also be responsible for all applicable usage fees, prorated access charges, taxes, surcharges or other charges that accrued to your account through the termination date. If you paid a security deposit, it may take between 30 and 60 days to process the return of your security deposit. The charges for any service used on the account before the service termination date may be applied against your security deposit."
So as long as you cancel within 3 days you get activation fee and cost of data plan minus usage returned. I plan on canceling within 5 minutes, so I should be ok.
"You may terminate service for any reason within 14 days of activation. If you purchased a wireless device at a promotional price at the time of activation, you must return it within the device return period to avoid being assessed an Early Termination Fee of $175, or $350 if you purchased an Advanced Device. You will remain responsible for your Activation Fee unless you terminate service within three days of activation. You will also be responsible for all applicable usage fees, prorated access charges, taxes, surcharges or other charges that accrued to your account through the termination date. If you paid a security deposit, it may take between 30 and 60 days to process the return of your security deposit. The charges for any service used on the account before the service termination date may be applied against your security deposit."
So as long as you cancel within 3 days you get activation fee and cost of data plan minus usage returned. I plan on canceling within 5 minutes, so I should be ok.
StreakTheQuad
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That may be true, but the general public may not be able to figure it out. Right now, it is widely perceived as unreasonably expensive, with a forced service fee.
Motorola PR needs to do done serious damage control, because the negative buzz is killing all of the positive momentum built over the last month.
I'm done getting worked up. I'm going to sit tight until we get official pricing from motorola or verizon, and not from a scanned ad with misspellings.
My max for a tablet was 800 bucks. I also wanted a case for my tablet, after this is all said and done (providing price is correct) I'm looking at 900 dollars or so. Or I can wait see what apple offers, or another honeycomb tablet that comes down the piple line. Knowing that Apple will bring a fresh product to market means a price drop I bet on this motorola xoom. Do I "need" a tablet right this second that it's worth the early adoption price? I don't think so I'd rather let competition dictate the best deal for me.
Edit: Just read that iPad 2 reveal could happen this week. Could spell disaster for the Xoom if it's beat spec wise, and price. Even if they match specs, and beat them in price it's bad news for Moto.
Edit: Just read that iPad 2 reveal could happen this week. Could spell disaster for the Xoom if it's beat spec wise, and price. Even if they match specs, and beat them in price it's bad news for Moto.
It's the principle of the thing. WiFi only iPads are typically cheaper than WiFi + 3G iPads. I can live with the Xoom not having a WiFi only model, but to charge $20 to get online to ACTIVATE WiFi? What kind of crap is that. It's simply a move to try and get people to forget they turned on auto-renewal and get more subscription based money.
I was hoping for $700, but if they want $800 and $20 to activate wireless, I'll wait for the iPad 2 to be announced and keep my eye on the Asus Slider.
knappkd
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How do you forget? Buy the plan... Activate the device... Cancel the plan and they refund your money. Should take less than 5 minutes and it costs me nothing.
I am of the exact same opinion as you. I wanted to pay $600 for it actually, but I do know the tablet is worth the price of admission... so I will give them my $800 and still end up being excited about it.
For others, I'm sure there will be less expensive Honeycomb tablets available by the holiday. I'm just willing to pay extra for the opportunity to not wait that long.
I think Apple will match the Xoom spec wise... But I've read the announced features for iOS 4.3, and nothing has been announced as innovative as Honeycomb's tablet optimizations. It's possible they're keeping some things under wraps... but that rarely happens, and they don't even seem to be thinking in that direction.
They are stubbornly going to stick to that iPhone UI for the sake of their current customer base's familiarity with it. And while simple to use, Android's forward thinking features are just more innovative.
Nah, they will sell 4-5M easy... True, that is not enough to be a serious threat to Apples market share. But it will be enough to raise awareness until the next wave of honeycomb tablets. And that would still be a respectable amount of units sold for Moto as well. Really, the only question mark right now is the price/release of Tmobile's Slate? Either way, I'll pay to not have to wait. I will definitely be back on these boards to share
.One thing I was thinking about last night that could help the Xoom is timing. Right now people are getting there income tax returns. That's extra cash burning in peoples pockets that they otherwise would not have. For some folks it's just disposable income, and why not spend it on a nice new tablet?
p8ntballah21
Android Enthusiast
That is probably the reason I am getting the XOOM if the price ends up being $799. With my tax refund being deposited by Feb 11th (hopefully) I will be pciking this up. If this was released at another time at this price I wouldn't even be entertaining the idea.
I've heard a lot of knee jerk reactions on price. But I think for all the specs it has I would think a similar spec'd iPad2 will be around the same price. For me the iPad2 is not an option, I have an iPod Touch, I dont need a 9.7 inch one.
Nothing else on the horizon really excites me (no viewsonic, no notion) Maybe the Toshiba but thats too far out and I don't want to wait, so I realize that I'm adopting this tablet early and I will have to pay a little more for it, If I had any patience I would wait for a WIFI only, but I've been following the Xoom for far too long to wait much longer.
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