PINK SLIME: I May Never Eat Another Burger

[breadnatty08]

Yes thats the sad thing , because of money and big business dealings , we are the guinnie pigs . They are pushing the heart of america out of business namely the farmlands and natural ways to grow crop and raise livestock

Tis true. We invest a lot of time and extra money in sourcing locally grown veggies, humanely raised meats and natural cheeses. It's a small step, but definitely worth it. The networks are out there, but if you need to make some big bank, it can be tough.

 

[Rico ANDROID]

Tis true. We invest a lot of time and extra money in sourcing locally grown veggies, humanely raised meats and natural cheeses. It's a small step, but definitely worth it. The networks are out there, but if you need to make some big bank, it can be tough.

You are right, and on to a good thing. I am looking for local home-grown roadside type markets and community garden type projects . Id l ove to support these and know what I consume than continue fattening corp pockets and eating styrofoam and slime for more money

 

[330D]

You are right, and on to a good thing. I am looking for local home-grown roadside type markets and community garden type projects . Id l ove to support these and know what I consume than continue fattening corp pockets and eating styrofoam and slime for more money

Like I said before, I'm so lucky to be able to get locally grown high quality beef, but I'm also really lucky to live in a rural enough area that I can have my own garden or choice of local farm stands/farmers markets. There are local dairies that produce cheese and milk as well. The buy local movement is huge here, and the farmers and local people have embraced it.

 

[Steven58]

Possible solution: Don't eat red meat/burgers?

 

[OutofDate1980]

...Unfortunately, it's going to take a lot of government action to kill subsidies for corn/soy and less influence from lobbyists to get things to change. They are the two big keys pushing the movement towards processed crap and making it cheap.
If nutritious veggies were subsidized (and then sold as cheaply) as corn, we would honestly have a healthier America. Too bad as in the tobacco and gun lobby, we're just out numbered.

You're not out numbered, just out spent. Remember the Golden Rule.

 

[batgeek]

Possible solution: Don't eat red meat/burgers?

oh. hell. no.

people were meant to eat meat.

much like 330D, i'm lucky enough to live where there are many local producers from which i buy directly from.

 

[Rico ANDROID]

Possible solution: Don't eat red meat/burgers?

Right , batgeek?!

Ohhhh Noooo he diihhh-int!!!!

Gimme my red meats! and i wants it 100% , no grisstle, no kneecaps, just red meets!!!

 

[Rico ANDROID]

I was BORN to do this! ... and they go and spoil it all.

 

[TxGoat]

people were meant to eat meat.

I've heard some people argue that based on the way our teeth are designed, that we're more meant to be herbivores. I think some people put a little too much emphasis on the whole, "The bible says we're supposed to have dominion over all animals on the planet" notion.

I heard Bill Clinton has gone vegan and has drastically increased his overall health. Then again, he used to eat at McDonalds, so just eliminating that probably added another 3-4 years to the end of his life (if he keeps the interns at arm's length).

 

[Rico ANDROID]

I've heard some people argue that based on the way our teeth are designed, that we're more meant to be herbivores. I think some people put a little too much emphasis on the whole, "The bible says we're supposed to have dominion over all animals on the planet" notion.

I heard Bill Clinton has gone vegan and has drastically increased his overall health. Then again, he used to eat at McDonalds, so just eliminating that probably added another 3-4 years to the end of his life (if he keeps the interns at arm's length).

Personally, I thought that script only meant that we are to care for the beasts, etc, etc, but not mistreat or harm them. I think of it every time I look into a helpless little pup's eyes as he licks my face or so excited that hes got some attention. As far as meat eating goes, it later says we could eat meat but to pour its blood out to the ground before eating.

You are right, I think we started out as vegans.....im leaning more that way each day. My pics lf the burgsrs just for fun. Actually all I eat now is seafood or some pork, like Stevie59 said,...ive all but given up on red meat

 

[TheBrit]

We're omnivores...we're supposed to have a varied diet. Going vegan means you will miss out on essential nutrients unless you take supplements.

 

[Rico ANDROID]

We're omnivores...we're supposed to have a varied diet. Going vegan means you will miss out on essential nutrients unless you take supplements.

My prob is that im not turning veggie by choice. Ive had , for years but didnt know it when I was a kid, and denied it as a grown monkey, that ive always had problems digesting red meat. Didnt come to light till one time I had surgery aftdr highschool. It souldnt heal even weeks and a month after being home. Found out red meats were doing something to my system that attacked the cells that would have "scabbed" (putting it as nicely as I can).. It was weird. Drs wondered what was causing it then by procedures, found it was a contributor to the prob. Stopped eating my fav WENDY'S HOT & JOOCIE!, and wow, sterted mending fast as in days.

Needless to say, I backslid always and always felt bad internallly...makes me wonder what ive been eating even then. But todays burgers, hayale! I cant even digest! So its cut from my diet.

 

[TxGoat]

Personally, I thought that script only meant that we are to care for the beasts, etc, etc, but not mistreat or harm them. I think of it every time I look into a helpless little pup's eyes as he licks my face or so excited that hes got some attention. As far as meat eating goes, it later says we could eat meat but to pour its blood out to the ground before eating.

You are right, I think we started out as vegans.....im leaning more that way each day. My pics lf the burgsrs just for fun. Actually all I eat now is seafood or some pork, like Stevie59 said,...ive all but given up on red meat

I like seafood and poultry, although poultry is typically mistreated as well. I won't touch Shrimp though since they're bottom feeders and I once got deathly sick from a plate of Shrimp Alfredo that had me losing over 20 lbs in a week. I was violently throwing up (out of BOTH ends) for that whole week.

We're omnivores...we're supposed to have a varied diet. Going vegan means you will miss out on essential nutrients unless you take supplements.

I don't think we're "supposed" to have any type of diet. I think the human body does a great job of adapting to what foods it has access to, hence the reason some people can live off of stuff like Mac n Cheese or Ramen. Below is a good example of someone that doesn't have a "varied diet" and actually only eats 1 meal a day. I suspect he's in better health than a lot of people that have that variety that you speak of.

 

[Rico ANDROID]

I like seafood and poultry, although poultry is typically mistreated as well. I won't touch Shrimp though since they're bottom feeders and I once got deathly sick from a plate of Shrimp Alfredo that had me losing over 20 lbs in a week. I was violently throwing up (out of BOTH ends) for that whole week.





I don't think we're "supposed" to have any type of diet. I think the human body does a great job of adapting to what foods it has access to, hence the reason some people can live off of stuff like Mac n Cheese or Ramen. Below is a good example of someone that doesn't have a "varied diet" and actually only eats 1 meal a day. I suspect he's in better health than a lot of people that have that variety that you speak of.

Bottom eaters as in "rump-roast"? As in "ham-hock"? As in caboose? As in "shrimp-cocktail"? Now TxGoat whatchoo go and spoil my luv for shrimp! XD

Wow I guess you could say shrimp did not agree with you! Only beef got me that deathly ill once...but I did also on weiners and those nasty vienns sausages...like you-both portals! And I cant get close to those two items to this day!

 

[zuben el genub]

I don't doubt the stuff is edible. BUT - it should be labeled and sold at a discount.

I've heard stories of people eating meat that was just turning during the depression.

We used to have chopped meat with textured soy protein in it. Cost less, but was labeled as soy included.

I happen to like soy burgers and will also use ground turkey. Lots less fat.

 

[Bob Maxey]

there has been crap in the ground beef for a very long time. My butcher grinds my beef while I wait. No slime and I can eat it rare if I want. No worries over bugs and problems.

 

[breadnatty08]

Jon Stewart did his whole opening bit last night on pink slime. He ended up with the slogan: "Pink slime: it's pretty much no worse than the sh*t you already eat". Ahh, good stuff.

 

[ylexot]

I'm just amused about how people blame the companies and want government to fix it when the government is complicit in the issue.

Who has more power than the government and the corporations combined? The people themselves...but that power is dwindling because we keep giving more and more of it to the government.

 

[ElasticNinja]

I'm just amused about how people blame the companies and want government to fix it when the government is complicit in the issue.

Who has more power than the government and the corporations combined? The people themselves...but that power is dwindling because we keep giving more and more of it to the government.

Well, the government is to represent the people, and be made up of the people etc. Thus the only way for people get such large scale things done is via the government. Give corporations LESS influence in government, and the problem would be somewhat alleviated. Although I would accept those with intellect and money will probably always have proportionally more influence, it should be minimized somewhat.

If you suggest individuals create and enforce such regulations, you end up with a regulatory nightmare completely non-conductive to business, on par with the infamous License Raj.

 

[ylexot]

Well, the government is to represent the people, and be made up of the people etc. Thus the only way for people get such large scale things done is via the government.

Wrong! Want to hurt a corporation, don't buy their product. That will affect them a lot faster than waiting for the government to intervene.

Give corporations LESS influence in government, and the problem would be somewhat alleviated.

Ok, that I agree with.

If you suggest individuals create and enforce such regulations, you end up with a regulatory nightmare completely non-conductive to business, on par with the infamous License Raj.

I'm not suggesting that at all. I'm suggesting that individuals (and groups of individuals) can identify problems and make them known to the public. The public can react accordingly. Want an example of that in practice? Ever heard of the Better Business Bureau? How about Consumer Reports?

 

[ElasticNinja]

Wrong! Want to hurt a corporation, don't buy their product. That will affect them a lot faster than waiting for the government to intervene.
Ok, that I agree with.

I'm not suggesting that at all. I'm suggesting that individuals (and groups of individuals) can identify problems and make them known to the public. The public can react accordingly. Want an example of that in practice? Ever heard of the Better Business Bureau? How about Consumer Reports?

There will always be people who dont know/dont care. People power can work, but it seems to fail with regards to foods and consumer goods more often than not (Not that I've statistics, heh).

Thats fair enough! And sometimes the industry will take action themselves - but if you want to prevent it more permanently, you're looking at government intervention. If something like that is so prevelant, then I would reckon the tempatation will always be there for those who want to make a quick buck.

 

[ylexot]

There will always be people who dont know/dont care. People power can work, but it seems to fail with regards to foods and consumer goods more often than not (Not that I've statistics, heh).

If the people don't care, why should the government? Like you said, they're supposed to represent the people...

Thats fair enough! And sometimes the industry will take action themselves - but if you want to prevent it more permanently, you're looking at government intervention. If something like that is so prevelant, then I would reckon the tempatation will always be there for those who want to make a quick buck.

The government typically is quick to overreact to a situation and then do nothing to fix their own mistakes. I'd rather have the government stay out of it. They tend to do more harm than good.

 

[OutofDate1980]

Yum, Yum coming to your grocery stores soon.

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"Almost all non-human mammals eat placenta for good reasons. Are we missing something? A paper by neuroscientists at the University at Buffalo and Buffalo State College suggests that ingestion of components of afterbirth or placenta -- placentophagia -- may offer benefits to human mothers and perhaps to non-mothers and males."

 

[ElasticNinja]

If the people don't care, why should the government? Like you said, they're supposed to represent the people...

Because people like to be willfully ignorant?

The government typically is quick to overreact to a situation and then do nothing to fix their own mistakes. I'd rather have the government stay out of it. They tend to do more harm than good.

Heh, that analysis isn't half wrong But I think humans have a habit of denial/ignorance then overreaction, no?
If governments did more harm than good you'd live in a cave right now and have lost your only surviving son to a clan war with the neighbours.

 

[finndo77]

I am almost becominga vegetatian but, like youve said,because of strongarmed orcing farmers into accepting certain practices, its hard to find whoe foods. We have such stores locally,but, "they cost more" than the processed foods. Theres some communities here that have opened up neighborhood "open air type markets" where they bring home grown veggies and fruit that others can buy....this I like.

Check online to see if trader Joe's is near you, they sell good stuff cheap, organic, sometimes local.