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Premium Navigation - free or paid for?

Not being local to your area, I can not tell how accurate the street names are that it produced, but I will try the same codes with google nav and see what it produces.

I have not had any issues with copilot, speed warnings are great, and very accurate as well. Speed camera warnings on sat navs are fine, but I find that as allot are user based, as well as the fixed ones, they are not always that accurate, and many mobile ones are moved around simply due to these user based sat navs. I forget where it was now, but an update I did on my tomtom for sat navs, caused the device to go off over 20 times on one straight stretch of road, all down to mobile cameras, which obviously the local plod, moved about daily.

Speed camera warnings are fine in an area you are not local to, but I find the built in speed warning feature of copilot to be far better, as it alerts you at a user specified speed over the speed limit. For me it is handy, as coach and car speed limits are different on various roads, so I can easily change the warning.
 
So I actually used the HTC Locations Free trial yesterday (and the Google Maps on the way home), and I'm fairly impressed with it.

Compared to Google Maps
1) I could actually understand the instructions it gave me
2) Allowed me to use other phone features while still navigating
3) No concerns that I had no phone signal in the area I started from

Annoyingly though,
1) Refused to show me any directions until a GPS signal was locked (which took a couple of minutes), where Google Maps would have used a rough location to get me started (or at least show me the route even if my location wasn't accurate)
2) Having 3D buildings was good, but Google Maps Sateilite and Street Views were better

In conclusion, still undecided. I'll do the same thing when I go for a road trip next weekend, and hopefully decide if its worth buying

P.S. If you suffer from the same "postcode not found" issues, find the Postcode on HTCsense.com, save it as a footprint, and navigate to that on the phone
 
HI all,

I was just playing around with my new desire HD while waiting for my lunch in a pub earlier opened car panel, searched a location clicked premium navigation and it said that a free 30 day trial has been activated..I dad not know it was something i had to pay for i just presumed that that was the free one..I knoiw now that the google maps is the free one and as i do not drive i actualy have no need for a sat nav anyway so i was just wondering after 30 days will i be charged? It's not something i want and realy it should have an explanation on it before clicking on it!! I did not download the Car panel it was already on the phone! I don't want it...can i just deactivate it from my phone?

Thanks All
Donna
 
Donna,

You'll be prompted to buy a license only if you try to use it after the trial - it shouldn't bill you automatically or anything. I certainly wasn't after my 30 days.

You can continue to use the Google Maps one for free - its quite useful when you need directions in a city, even walking. Or, when you're in someone else's car :)
 
sonesh said:
Co-pilot seems like a nice piece of software, but it lacks speed camera's (according to the website) and the traffic updates are more expensive. With that, and the Postcode results, I'm going to have to pass
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Co-pilot does have free speed cameras, they update them about once a month. I have used it since the days of my Hero and its pretty good.
 
dijon said:
Donna,

You'll be prompted to buy a license only if you try to use it after the trial - it shouldn't bill you automatically or anything. I certainly wasn't after my 30 days.

You can continue to use the Google Maps one for free - its quite useful when you need directions in a city, even walking. Or, when you're in someone else's car :)
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thanks

:p
 
SithSurfer said:
Just to clear some stuff out, in terms of car-usable sat nav you've got:

Google Navigation:
  • Turn-by-Turn;
  • Voice prompts;
  • Traffic updates;
  • All features are FREE (+data charges if you don't have a data plan);
  • You need to stay connected as there's no option to download the maps just yet.

HTC Navigation / Locations:
  • 30-day trial version;
  • All maps are downloaded, hence there are no delays and your 3G/HDSPA/GSM signal is not an issue;
  • It has Voice Prompts, Speed Camera and Speed Alerts;
  • You can buy a month, year all life subscription after the trial period;
  • It's pretty damn good and I'm sticking to this one over Google's for the time being.

Hope that helps.

PS. No idea about transferability of the licenses but I assume it's somehow connected to the HTC Sense thus it just might be an option. We'll see how it goes, but then about
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does anyone who why it says your map is expired and please download the latest one. Once I click and I couldn't find the Malaysia map and it says can't find, please download it manually .. what does it mean? which web site to download it from?
 
You in fact have three navigation options I have tested them all today:

Google Navigation (Free)

  1. Turn by turn free navigation from Google
  2. Voice prompts
HTC Locations (Free)

  1. Turn by turn navigation
  2. NO voice prompts
HTC Premium Navigation (Licence)

  1. Turn by Turn Navigation
  2. Voice prompts more natural sounding lanugage
  3. More trip information displayed than locations
  4. Speed Camera and traffic available (At an extra cost)

I am not sure which maps are downloaded and which are used from the installed maps on the SD Card though!
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hey guys i decided to ge the premium navigation and to be honest? its not great due to 1 significant issue:

IT DOESNT SEARCH VIA POSTAL CODES!!!! (well for the UK anyways)

also the co-pilot menus in app is easier to navigate.

Q: did anyone have co-pilot bought on another android device before buying a DHD? were you able to download it for free or is the license per device? (just thinking is it like frigging gameloft...)

Ta!
 
eddiewawa said:
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Q: did anyone have co-pilot bought on another android device before buying a DHD? were you able to download it for free or is the license per device? (just thinking is it like frigging gameloft...)

Ta!
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Yes I had it on my Hero, the account is tied to your market email account and so you can just reinstall.

BUT you must remember to deactivate it first from your old phone, including deactivation any premium package ie traffic, or you will have problems. Saying that the support team were very good at helping me when I forgot the latter.
 
Sorry for hijacking this thread a bit but...

I am trying to use the Premium Navigation Trial, and can't seem to save my current location. By this I mean, I am sitting somewhere in the country that I want to save. With My dedicated Garmin Sat Nav I was able to just tap the screen, and save the location under any name I wanted.

Can I actually do this with Desire's Premium Navigation?

If not, does the CoPilot app do this?

Thanks

Paul
 
Do anybody know where/how I can bye a licence to Premium Navigation.
I can't find anything about that in the phone or the manual.

Thank you!
 
Nav wont search by postcode, google maps does, so search post code on maps then click the destination and choose navigate
 
ardhill said:
Sorry for hijacking this thread a bit but...

I am trying to use the Premium Navigation Trial, and can't seem to save my current location. By this I mean, I am sitting somewhere in the country that I want to save. With My dedicated Garmin Sat Nav I was able to just tap the screen, and save the location under any name I wanted.

Can I actually do this with Desire's Premium Navigation?

If not, does the CoPilot app do this?

Thanks

Paul
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Paul - no idea on the Premium Navigation, but yes you can do this with Co-pilot (press and hold screen to save POI, which can be placed in Favourites)

btw, I didn't know that before I had a look - I can see that being very useful!!

Dan
 
Personally I'd get the Car Panel premium licence as I prefer the voice options... the Google one is far too annoying for me (pretty tinny) and Google Navigation doesn't always keep up, where I never had a problem with Car Panel.

Saying that, I have left Google Navigation on my phone for the walking instructions ;)

ardhill said:
Sorry for hijacking this thread a bit but...

I am trying to use the Premium Navigation Trial, and can't seem to save my current location. By this I mean, I am sitting somewhere in the country that I want to save. With My dedicated Garmin Sat Nav I was able to just tap the screen, and save the location under any name I wanted.

Can I actually do this with Desire's Premium Navigation?

If not, does the CoPilot app do this?

Thanks

Paul
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What you CAN do is open the Car Panel and at the bottom in the middle it says "Mark This Location" (I think it adds it to the footprints folder) you can rename it however you want and it's so much easier to get at quickly when you want to nav to it.
 
Hallo, i have had this Premium Navigation working 30 days, now i want to bye hole europe, east and west, does anybody know how many GB it fills, because i only have 8 GB Micro SD card in my desire HD. To RENE M, in the danish phone you can bye maps in Locations. Thanks.
 
zarkrax said:
You in fact have three navigation options I have tested them all today:

Google Navigation (Free)

  1. Turn by turn free navigation from Google
  2. Voice prompts
HTC Locations (Free)

  1. Turn by turn navigation
  2. NO voice prompts
HTC Premium Navigation (Licence)

  1. Turn by Turn Navigation
  2. Voice prompts more natural sounding lanugage
  3. More trip information displayed than locations
  4. Speed Camera and traffic available (At an extra cost)

I am not sure which maps are downloaded and which are used from the installed maps on the SD Card though!
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This answered a lot of my questions.
Thanks
 
If this helps new Sat Nav users in my view Google maps is very good. You can improve it by downloading better voices from the Market and there are also speed camera apps available there. I have read that Google are working on a download system similar to Nokia's Ovi maps which will remove the reliance on data connection. One nice feature is that when you reach your destination is the screen shot will change to Street view.
 
Have also recently ‘discovered’ (and inadvertently activated free trial) ‘HTC/Route 66 premium navigation’ on new Desire-S. Route 66 sold, but not high profile down this end of globe (NZ), mainly Garmin, TT and Navman. Tried from home (on hill) to local business. Attemped to send me down street with pedestrian steps (only) joining top and bottom sections. Resisted instructions, system coped OK with deviation.

Tried to return, same instructions, up pedestrian steps, resisted. Home again, but system says ‘home’ is at other end of street, appears to be numbered from wrong end. ‘Home’ is in older part of city, absolutely NO changes to road structure, name or numbers last 50 years at least. Not promising. Own standalone Navman, Garmin (x2) and TT (x2) and have never experienced slightest difficulty with local ‘home’ routes.

Seems OK on local highways, rather ‘bland’ display with very few ‘extras’ or user customizable areas. Speed readout turns red if over speed limit but is wrong on some local 70kmh streets (thinks they are 50kmh). No warning tone (that I can find) associated with over speed limit so inaccurate mapping speed database probably not going to be noticed too much. Voice good compared to Google synthesised.

So far not impressed. Very unlikely will purchase on expiry of trial period unless I stumble across ‘hidden’ options page that liberates the features I have come to expect in stand alone navigation systems. Probably OK for those who are more inclined toward simple ‘Go/Stop’ gadgets and have the optional ‘pedestrian step climbing wheels’ fitted to their vehicle.
 
I tryed quite a number of navis. HTCs locations is one of the worse ones (it does not even find my home, and similar country side places). I use CoPilot Premium now, and it works great.

This is my post to HTC:
"I'm a HTC customer since the first android phones came out, and hundreds of friends of mine bought a an HTC Android device because of my recommendation. Until spring I was very satisfied with all HTC devices.

Yet a great frustration came up, since HTC forced its users to use the built in maps and navigation tools.

First they did this as a responds to selecting an address out of the contacts, now they even start "locations" and its built in navigation on car docking. Newly there is no way to circumvent the call of "locations", which ask for paying a licence for the navigation tool each time.

Firstly: I payed for my smart phone, and its my own decision if I want or not getting additional payed software for it.
Secondly: The build in navigation is terrible as compared to others, like CoPilot, etc. (it does not find my home, while Google and CoPilot find most places)
Thirdly: When in car I want to use my own car dock home, and certainly not "locations"

The Android OS has a built in mechanisme, that permits users to choose theire prefered services for certain functionalities, such as navigating to a place, etc.. It's not fair by HTC to disable this mechanisme just force theire navigation solution.

After having contacted HTC several times for this problem, getting no answers what so ever (standard support cannot do much in this place), and experiencing that each firmware upgrade does even make it tougher to find a work around, I'll probably discontinue buying HTC devices, unless HTC changes policy.

Please note that HTC became what it is today mainly by the open source OS Android, but what they do now contradicts Open Source policy completely.

In my country it is illegal to force customers to post-sell charges, that are not declared in first place. This is what HTC is doing now - so I will return all my, and my kids devices still under warranty if there is not a solution in the next three weeks.

Maybe this public post, will move HTC towards a change - this is my hope"
 
Hi sonesh I can get your postcode on my route 66 but only if I leave a space between the first and last three letters. Cheers
 
sonesh said:
I'm not a big fan of Google Maps because the Voice is barely recognisable, and I've heard it will some times not bother reading out an instruction. Plus there is the whole issue of what to do if you hit a signal blackspot

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Download SVOX TTS from Market, it improves the voice and allows you to put a voice on of your choice, I have Oliver UK English, sounds very real and very clear
 
I use the Google maps and find this sufficient for general navigation, except for the voice, what am I missing with paid for?
 
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