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Help Problems with my m8

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SilliBird

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I'm having two problems with my m8-

1. Battery Life - The battery life is absolute garbage for me. I constantly am killing apps and have several battery saving apps. I haven't checked in a while, but last time I checked GSam says I get like 3-4 minutes per %. I also have the power saver settings and brightness low.

2. Screen freezes - If the phone dies, when I charge it again and the phone re-boots, the screen is like frozen. Buttons work, holding down power works, but I can't interact with the screen, (the touch isn't working.)

Other than this I love the phone. The Battery Life issue is why i'm not using it much though because it dies too quickly.
 
Get rid of all the power saving apps and just use the one that came with the phone, Also check the frequency of updates on things like Twitter- these can also kill the battery
 
Doing away with the task killer apps will pick you up a lot of battery. The link explaining why is a very good read. If you are still having problems you do need to check the frequency of app activities such as social and mail apps. I hope this will recover some of your lost power. Welcome to Android Forums. I hope you enjoy your time here.
 
Battery usage stats should tell you exactly what is using battery power.

I agree with these guys...you don't need task killers anymore. But it is not clear why u don't know WHAT is draining your battery,

Regarding the freezing, is is possible that your task killers are over zealous, loading on boot and killing things that they should not?

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Update: Removed all those things, each percent lasts about 2 minutes, GSam says. Battery manager reports the top two apps using battery are 1.) System UI - 12% and 2.) Google Services - 11%. It also reports that Wi-Fi is using 24%, Cell Standby is using 19%, and Phone idle is using 17%.
 
Yes, if you have removed all your task killer, memory management, and etc. type apps, then let your phone settle into it's new routine and let us know how it's going.

I've been using Android phones exclusively since Nov 9, 2009 on the Motorola A855 (OG Droid as some call it) and it was never recommended to use task killers back then either as Android takes care of itself quite nicely; these 'additional' apps just good fodder for the play store and the un knowing.

The only other thing I found was when leaving one app for another, use the back button to back yourself out instead of the home button to just 'quit'.

good luck
 
teddyearp said:
Yes, if you have removed all your task killer, memory management, and etc. type apps, then let your phone settle into it's new routine and let us know how it's going.

I've been using Android phones exclusively since Nov 9, 2009 on the Motorola A855 (OG Droid as some call it) and it was never recommended to use task killers back then either as Android takes care of itself quite nicely; these 'additional' apps just good fodder for the play store and the un knowing.

The only other thing I found was when leaving one app for another, use the back button to back yourself out instead of the home button to just 'quit'.

good luck
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Does clearing the recents close apps?
 
SilliBird said:
Does clearing the recents close apps?
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Sometimes.

Depends on what services are used and what preferences are set.

You can close social networking apps all day long but so long as you have them set to notify and do what they normally do, they'll never really stop.

Typically you don't need to close an app unless it's misbehaving (and many do unfortunately).

Even if open, a well-behaved app will go into hibernation and consume zero battery.

Get Wakelock Detector, and use it especially, and Gsam too.

What robs your battery are apps babbling away even when your screen is off - they keep the phone awake.

Here's a picture of battery use with the screen off. Notice how little power drops even though there are simple wake-ups going on - mail and messages mostly.

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Here's my M8 getting 8 hours of screen on time with actual use, mailing, posting, browsing, over about 17 hours -

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No task or memory killing, no closing apps, just letting Android do its job with good apps, properly configured.

And don't overlook your radios.

I can and often do go to fringe coverage areas in the desert and then my battery doesn't do as well.

Again, nothing with apps will change that either.
 
SilliBird said:
How long/How much usage should it be until the battery 'breaks in' and starts performing better?
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About a few days, tops.

Batteries haven't broken in for years and they need no magic charging cycles for conditioning.

The battery tech that did hasn't been made for years.

A few charging cycles to get the initial calibration table is it - and that gets cleared whenever you power down your phone all of the way.
 
SilliBird said:
I'm having two problems with my m8-

1. Battery Life - The battery life is absolute garbage for me. I constantly am killing apps and have several battery saving apps. I haven't checked in a while, but last time I checked GSam says I get like 3-4 minutes per %. I also have the power saver settings and brightness low.

2. Screen freezes - If the phone dies, when I charge it again and the phone re-boots, the screen is like frozen. Buttons work, holding down power works, but I can't interact with the screen, (the touch isn't working.)

Other than this I love the phone. The Battery Life issue is why i'm not using it much though because it dies too quickly.
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Backup your phone. Try Helium Backup.

Then do a factory data reset to erase all of your apps and data.

Then either run a day or two without setting up anything, just see how it runs.

If it's draining and freezing, it's broken, take it in.

If not, restore your backup.

If it's not hardware then it's likely that the operating system caches are messed up - and a factory data reset will fix that.

Chasing battery solutions and app killers is going to get you exactly nowhere if you have bad hardware or tangled caches.

I doubt that you'll want to try this - no one ever does.

You'll thank me later if you do - usually everyone does. ;)
 
I agree with EarlyMon. You should do some sort of test while you can to make sure you do not have a factory defective battery.

good luck
 
SilliBird said:
I don't believe it's factory defective because my last android was like this to... either that or I am highly unlikely.
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Or you have some app that you keep using and don't know yet that it's poorly written and is the source of your problems.

The procedure I've laid out removes luck and guesswork from the equation - your phone is a machine and can be diagnosed like the machine it is, and my post explains how and why and what you fix or find out.

I know of no alternative paths to solution and I've been doing this a while.

But it's YOUR phone, so you do as you think best. :)
 
Somewhat on topic, should I be using Clean Master or just remove it and let things cache and run in the background? thx
 
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