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handyman439

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I just got a casio commando, and am probably gonna root it in few days or so. I have a few questions hopefully someone could answer.



*** After rooting, I understand I have 3 options to clean up my phone and remove bloatware...

1.) uninstall and remove apps
2.) freeze apps
3.) freeze apps and move to sd card

I am not sure which route I want to take yet. Could anyone point out any advantages/disadvantages to either option?



*** Will moving apps (that I will use) to the sd card increase the performance of the phone? Will it decrease the performance of the apps?



*** I plan on using a different launcher, can that original launcher be removed after rooting? also will I be able to remove my lock screen?
 
I have the same question about the bloatware and the Commando, and please add a step-by-step with ability to restore if needed. Some talk about Titanium around, but I need some Basic 101 on this.

How about it "Almighty Phone Hack Gods", can ya help the new guys. ;)
 
I am no where near a "Almighty Phone Hack God", but...

Titanium is the way to go, but when you back-up to your SD card, take it out and put it somewhere safe. You never know if/when your phone is going to crash or wipe and if you loose the apps you may loose the ability to restore the phone if you need to send it back. I did stumble onto a workaround for this though.

I rooted my phone. I backed up the "bloatware" and then uninstalled with Titanium, thinking that I would be able to restore them if needed. Well, I "butt dialed" myself into a complete security phone wipe and lost all the backups (security settings for my work's exchange server). No worries, right? - since I was keeping the phone. Then my phone screen began to not rotate and the compass stopped working so I wanted to replace it under warrenty. All the apps were gone so I figured this out.

When the replacement phone came, I activated it, rooted it and did the same thing. I then took the SD card out of the new phone and put it into the old phone. When I ran Titanium on the old phone there were all the backups and I was able to fully restore the missing carrier apps. I derooted the phone and sent it back to Verizon. No problems with them accepting it back and crediting me for the return.

Your situation may be different and you may have other results.
 
Thank you for sharing your experience, as it applies directly for my reason for asking. Now if you could enlighten us with the step-by-step on how to use this Titanium. Found the procedure to root, just not that one.
 
Frodoz,

Can you post a link to what what you found on rooting?


Anyone have any input on on weather I should uninstall, freeze, or move/freeze the bloatware after rooting?


Also, if I purchased applications, will they still be available after rooting?
 
The Casio Commando is like the a Panasonic Toughbook laptop, made for the field, but last gen specs. This is probably why it's not popular with the phone devs/gods, resulting in less support than other new phones.

Google search came up with a few consistant links for rooting with SuperOneClick and Titanium Backup for de-bloating. A co-worker who rooted their Android XYZ will assist me with "that part", so I don't mess it up.

Still looking for the "step-by-step instructions" to using Titanium Backup. Some of us really need this rugged smart phone, so help us out folks, please.
 
Run titanium. If you do not get asked to accept Super User permissions the first time you run it then go back and root your phone. If you have rooted your phone you will need to power it down and restart it or you won't be able to have Super User rights. In titanium, once you get through all the screens they want you to read you will get to a screen that has three buttons on top. Tap the one that says "Backup/Restore". This will bring up a list of all the applications installed. Look at the list. Pick an app, lets say Bing. Tap on Bing. A window will pop up asking you to Backup, freeze, un-install, or wipe data. Tap Backup. It will backup the app and then go back to the app list. Tap Bing again and then select uninstall. It will ask you if you are sure, click yes. If you delete something that makes your phone quit doing something like making phone calls, go back to the list. All the uninstalled apps will be at the bottom. Find it, tap on it and then tap restore. If you do not back up the app before you uninstall it, you will not be able to reinstall it; it will be gone forever. You can find all the apps at xda, and you can install it normally, but it won't be a system app and it will it will not survive a wipe.

A note about deleting Bing. If you delete Bing and are using the stock launcher the search spyglass and search from the menu will not work even if you have installed the proper google search application. Installing another launcher from the market will fix this, but then you loose the nifty flip out menu which I never liked anyway because it makes that rediculous whooshing noise.
 
Now we're talking. Will use this info when we root it. Thanks again. Will try to give details and results next week when we have time to do this.
 
I think im about ready to give this a try, but I am still wondering if it is better to freeze or uninstall the unwanted applications?

Also, is there an option to remove the commando unlock screen after rooting?
 
handyman439 said:
I think im about ready to give this a try, but I am still wondering if it is better to freeze or uninstall the unwanted applications?
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Freezing the app will still leave it in the phones memory, uninstalling it removes it from the memory and places it on the SD card. If you don't need or want the room, freeze it.

handyman439 said:
Also, is there an option to remove the commando unlock screen after rooting?
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I'm sure someone who knew what they were doing could remove the unlock screen but I'm not that guy. I have my phone connected with my work's exchange server and I hate the lock screen. Since they are paying a portion of my phone bill, I am obliged to have it connected...
 
"I think im about ready to give this a try, but I am still wondering if it is better to freeze or uninstall the unwanted applications?"

If you get to it before me, please post.

I'm still not comfortable trying this stuff without help from my buddy. I would like to uninstall, but we may freeze first to make sure all works well. Then later move to an extra micro for safe keeping to free the space on phones internal memory.

I could do without the quick launcher and really want Bing "replaced" with Google, not just added. I do like the screen lock though.
 
I just went into this rooting thing on my Commando with not much of an idea what to do. I just did a Google search, and did what they said. I ran into some issues, but was able to figure them out on my own. My phone still works, and I have all the bloatware removed. Hurray!
 
You will not need ADB or the SDK to root the Commando. Use super one click. You will need the drivers, and there is a post on this forum to download them.
 
Are you sure of this? I just read another guide and it sounded like it needed to be installed? Perhaps that is just if you want to use advanced features or controll the phone without super one click?
 
To use super one click all you will need are the SOC folder and the windows drivers. SOC has the adb files that it needs built in. If you are wanting to root manullay or do other other things like push, pull, dump, flash, etc. then you will need the SDK.
 
Just rooted the phone and it went "super" easy, haha.

1.) Install casio drivers
2.) Enable usb debugging on computer
3.) Connect phone
4.) Run SOC
 
Any data that an app has created while it's running - like your level and score on Angry Birds. If you wipe the data it returns it to it's "just installed" state.
 
I understand that one of the reasons for rooting is so that you can restore apps in order to get updates...

Is that only if you uninstall the updating program? or does the phone need to be completely unmodified to install updates?

Also will my phone still try and update itself, or will I have to manually check to see if updates are available?
 
rjglenn said:
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A note about deleting Bing. If you delete Bing and are using the stock launcher the search spyglass and search from the menu will not work even if you have installed the proper google search application. Installing another launcher from the market will fix this, but then you loose the nifty flip out menu which I never liked anyway because it makes that rediculous whooshing noise.
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I just installed a new launcher as you described.
I chose Go-Launcher-EX from the Market. Works well for me!

I am glad to be rid of that rediculous snap-out menu, as well as having the search key work with Google, instead of Bing or nothing. Added Google Voice Search from the Market; this added the mic-key to the Google-Search window.
 
handyman439 said:
Just rooted the phone and it went "super" easy, haha.

1.) Install casio drivers
2.) Enable usb debugging on computer
3.) Connect phone
4.) Run SOC
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So is this the Casio G'zOne phone you rooted?? I have this phone and I've done everything you list, but hangs up on step #7 Been working on this for two weeks with no luck
 
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