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Random Thought Thread

bjacks12 said:
An SRT-8 at that price? It's got some serious problems for sure. Run, don't walk away from that car.

The Impala from Supernatural is a beautiful car. My dad had one in high school(i believe his was a coupe though). I would definitely give the early 2000s models a look, as they can be had for a good price, and get decent fuel economy for what they are. They were favored by fleets, so there are a lot of well-maintained cars out there.

I wouldn't even consider an electric car right now in your position in life. They're toys of the rich, and they're really not very practical yet. And somebody's got to burn something to power them, even if it isn't in your engine bay.
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The post was taken down. It was a Troll. Not good on gas though, but an amazing car for both commute and power. And that's something I kinda am into. I'm probably too young for racing though.

Imagin that. A 19 year old with an SRT HEMI or something.
 
Gmash said:
Flagged for removal already. Probably a scam.

As for electric cars, I'd wait to buy, the next generation will undoubtedly have longer-range batteries. Still, the Nissan Leaf will go 85 miles on a charge. That is plenty for most people for a day's driving. It would be worth leasing if you mostly drive around town.

SF, you might be interested in this article:

Life with a Leaf: what I learned from four months with an electric car | Guardian Sustainable Business | theguardian.com
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Where can I lease a car?
 
I don't think even leasing a car would be a good option for me. By the time I get a car, probably March next year, I'll have maybe about $5,000 to work with. I know I can buy a decent gas guzzler (Any gas car is a guzzler) for that price, though I would love to have an electric car. But it just doesn't seem realistic with what I make, and what will go out.

I'm not too stingy about sharing what I make at McDonalds.

On average, with school, I can get about <$500 - >$400 / month. On the off months, between semesters, I can always take on a second job (I planned for that over the summer, but didn't happen)

A lease would be maybe around $250 / month and adding insurance to that, probably about about my full paycheck right?
 
leasing a car seams like just throwing money away you dont get to keep the car and you dont get the money back so WHAT is the point of it ay i ask
 
PHP:
blkbeltkid17 said:
leasing a car seams like just throwing money away you dont get to keep the car and you dont get the money back so WHAT is the point of it ay i ask
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The good thing is you get a new car at the end of the lease. Cars are becoming more and more like phones with innovation with electricity and technology in the car, making it safer, and cost effective. Leasing a car in this market will always get you the "flagship" device.
 
sfbloodbrother said:
PHP:

The good thing is you get a new car at the end of the lease. Cars are becoming more and more like phones with innovation with electricity and technology in the car, making it safer, and cost effective. Leasing a car in this market will always get you the "flagship" device.
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yeah I just dont see the economics between a few hundred phone to 20K car you can lease a phone and not lose much but a car payment aint that sig. more amount of $ that you are losing?

P.S. I am a youngin never bought a new car so don't take this in a bad way I more or less wanna wrap my head around why leasing car (or anything) for that matter is beneficial to anyone but the seller
 
blkbeltkid17 said:
yeah I just dont see the economics between a few hundred phone to 20K car you can lease a phone and not lose much but a car payment aint that sig. more amount of $ that you are losing?

P.S. I am a youngin never bought a new car so don't take this in a bad way I more or less wanna wrap my head around why leasing car (or anything) for that matter is beneficial to anyone but the seller
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Well if you can't afford a $200,000 Mercedes-Benz, you can always lease it.

In this economy, if you lease a Nissan Leaf, it's a good car now, but in 3 years after all these other car companies do their R&D for newer designs and longer range, ain't nobody gunna want to buy a used Nissan Leaf.

That's the benefit of leasing, because at the end of it, they have to take that car back. Then you can get a better one. But it's still at a high price.
 
blkbeltkid17 said:
yeah I just dont see the economics between a few hundred phone to 20K car you can lease a phone and not lose much but a car payment aint that sig. more amount of $ that you are losing?

P.S. I am a youngin never bought a new car so don't take this in a bad way I more or less wanna wrap my head around why leasing car (or anything) for that matter is beneficial to anyone but the seller
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Actually the opposite is true. Most car dealerships try to sell you used cars in the hopes you won't pay the car off, then they can repossess the car and redo the process all over again. Most people who lease a new car have enough money to keep up with the payments and the high insurance rates.

Edit- the only people who really benefit alot from leasing are places like Aarons and Rent a Center. You always end up paying way more than what it's worth by their process of lease.
 
sfbloodbrother said:
I don't think even leasing a car would be a good option for me. By the time I get a car, probably March next year, I'll have maybe about $5,000 to work with. I know I can buy a decent gas guzzler (Any gas car is a guzzler) for that price, though I would love to have an electric car. But it just doesn't seem realistic with what I make, and what will go out.

I'm not too stingy about sharing what I make at McDonalds.

On average, with school, I can get about <$500 - >$400 / month. On the off months, between semesters, I can always take on a second job (I planned for that over the summer, but didn't happen)

A lease would be maybe around $250 / month and adding insurance to that, probably about about my full paycheck right?
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I agree it wouldn't make sense for you, I was more responding to the comment that electric cars are not practical. For some people I think they can be.

Leasing can make sense for people who always want to be driving a new car. They plan on always having a car payment anyway, so with leasing they can afford something nicer than they could afford to buy, then turn it in at the end of the lease and get something else. I'm not one of those people, I like to own my stuff.
 
I would love to have an electric vehicle. Not paying for gas, that's amazing. But of course the price of that car will still be more than buying a gas car and spending $3000 a year on gas.

And by that time, the an expensive electric car today will be worth less in 3 years. Far less. Why leasing an electric car will be better than buying one. I'd say, buying an electric car now is a bad move. Buy gas now, in a few years, electric will be a better choice.
 
You have to take into consideration the increased cost of maintenance as well as the effect on your power bill.

The payback period on the Leaf is between 7-9 years...and you plan to keep it for only 2 or 3, so I would avoid it like the plague.

My car is relatively inexpensive, and I have an immaculate driving record, but my payment + insurance already eat through what the monthly budget you stated. At this stage I really recommend finding a cheap late 90's-early 2000's car. Fuel isn't THAT bad if you buy a car that is somewhat fuel efficient. You get used to spending it.

The 03 Impala that I almost purchased was $5,000. IIRC the payments worked out to less than $100 a month on a 5 year loan. I probably should have just gone ahead and bought it, as I would now have it paid off. But I didn't look very well into the future. Still love my Fusion though.

Another option to look at if you're determined to get into the alternative fuels....find a car that's been converted to run on CNG. It's cheap, you can still use gasoline if you have to, and it's way more practical than an electric vehicle.

People like to say the Leaf is good for around town commuting. Sure, it probably is. But in purchasing it, you are absolutely committing yourself to NEVER travelling unless you have an alternative car. Most people do drive somewhere at least a couple times a year.
 
blkbeltkid17 said:
yeah I just dont see the economics between a few hundred phone to 20K car you can lease a phone and not lose much but a car payment aint that sig. more amount of $ that you are losing?

P.S. I am a youngin never bought a new car so don't take this in a bad way I more or less wanna wrap my head around why leasing car (or anything) for that matter is beneficial to anyone but the seller
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There are a few times when leasing makes economic sense.

If you are going to be living and working in a particular area for a fixed amount of time, say a year or two years, then leasing a car can make more sense than buying a vehicle and then selling it before you leave.

If you prefer newer, maintenance-free vehicles (my mom had a boss who would buy the latest Corvette every year), then it might make more sense to lease. Yes, you are giving away money, but the lease would cost less than depreciation when investing in a new car and then selling it 12-24 months down the road.

Keep in mind, there are usually limits on mileage and such, as well.

And if you live close to work, then it may be worth your while to just invest heavily in a quality bicycle or motor scooter.
 
Should we rename this Random Thought Thread, or start a new one in Automotive to talk about this maybe? :p:rolleyes:
 
Hubby has a friend who has a new ish start up...dont remeber the name of the company but when he told me about it I thought it was BRILLIANT!! In fact...I wanted to invest...anywhooop the concept is...you lease a previously leased car through them for a set price per month....and you can trade it in at any time for another car for the same set price...or something like that:rolleyes:
hey it's early...I was up late:rolleyes: sounds rinky dink the way I'm describing it I know...but it's not...:o

i need coffeee


PS how was your trip Kaat??
 
In 7-9 years, we will have electric cars that go over 250 miles. That's why I say that buying an electric car like the leaf is a bad idea. But something like a tesla is still a good idea I think.

For me, buying a gas car probably makes more sense right now. At least until the electric car market becomes competitive. Right now it's dry. Time to play the waiting game.

In the mean time, I need to find a gas powered car to drive. I'll take any car from the Chrysler Group LLC. I don't know why, but I like their cars. Not GM, and not Toyota (not that their bad, just not feeling like a Toyota)

Maybe a Sebring, or a Dodge Chrager if I'm lucky.
 
mikedt said:
Unexpected item in the bagging area. Please remove item before continuing.
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Gah! This is a "rant" of mine (& I know this isn't the appropriate thread for rants but... he started it!)

When I go to the grocery store, sometimes I only buy a small number of items so I'll go through the self-checkout since the regular lines are usually kind of long & I always think it *might* be faster this time. But I LOATHE self-checkouts!! :mad:

The concept is simple enough, but I swear, those things see me coming & just love screwing with me.
Step 1. Scan the item
Step 2. Put the item in the bag
repeat...
Easy peasy, right? Ha!!!

For me, it often works more like this:
Step 1. Scan the item
Step 2. Put the item it the bag
Step 3. Computer voice LOUDLY says "unexpected item in the bagging area" (which is the item I just scanned, I was expecting it but apparently the computer wasn't?!?)
Step 4. I remove the item from the bag
Step 5. Computer states "please place the item in the bagging area" (SERIOUSLY? OK... NOW you're expecting it? fine!)
Step 6. Put the item in the bag
repeat of Steps 3 & 4 until I either figure out a way to fiddle with the bag & items to get it to shut the heck up, or I end up having to flag down an employee to put a sock in it.

I've almost walked out & just left my groceries there a couple times. I seriously hate self-checkouts!! I think it's ridiculous that we have to be our own cashier & we don't even get a discount for it, at minimum there should be an automatic savings to us for dealing with such ridiculousness...

**rant over*** :D
 
PattiCakeUS said:
Whoops! I was looking for & thinking about the post I wanted to quote for my self-checkout thought, & didn't read yours close enough.

*unlike* :p
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Lol. I'm probably going to fail this class. My sister said take the F, then take the class again and get an A next time. The A will show on the transcript and replace the F.

I don't know... Spend $500 to fail then take it again ? That's coming out of my wallet, and I don't want $1000 coming out of me for one class.

Welcome to life. Life cost a hellofa lot of money.
 
London duck, but I think Peking duck is better.
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PattiCakeUS said:
Gah! This is a "rant" of mine (& I know this isn't the appropriate thread for rants but... he started it!)

When I go to the grocery store, sometimes I only buy a small number of items so I'll go through the self-checkout since the regular lines are usually kind of long & I always think it *might* be faster this time. But I LOATHE self-checkouts!! :mad:

The concept is simple enough, but I swear, those things see me coming & just love screwing with me.
Step 1. Scan the item
Step 2. Put the item in the bag
repeat...
Easy peasy, right? Ha!!!

For me, it often works more like this:
Step 1. Scan the item
Step 2. Put the item it the bag
Step 3. Computer voice LOUDLY says "unexpected item in the bagging area" (which is the item I just scanned, I was expecting it but apparently the computer wasn't?!?)
Step 4. I remove the item from the bag
Step 5. Computer states "please place the item in the bagging area" (SERIOUSLY? OK... NOW you're expecting it? fine!)
Step 6. Put the item in the bag
repeat of Steps 3 & 4 until I either figure out a way to fiddle with the bag & items to get it to shut the heck up, or I end up having to flag down an employee to put a sock in it.

I've almost walked out & just left my groceries there a couple times. I seriously hate self-checkouts!! I think it's ridiculous that we have to be our own cashier & we don't even get a discount for it, at minimum there should be an automatic savings to us for dealing with such ridiculousness...

**rant over*** :D
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Happened to me yesterday. Packet of sandwiches and a coke, just two items, the stupid thing couldn't get it right. Scanned the coke, put it in the bag, the computer barks loudly "Unexpected item in the bagging area"... WTF!

For Tesco it's more like "Unexpected error in the accounting area." LOL
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/ma...investor-BlackRock-starts-dumping-shares.html
 
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