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Razr HD Maxx or Wait for LG Optimus G Nexus?

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leviathangod

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Been waiting for a while for the Razr HD to come out and now that it's out the LG Optimus G Nexus may or may not be coming out next month and it looks like it may be a better phone. Should I go ahead and get a Razr HD MAXX or wait and get a LG optimus G Nexus?
 
Well I would hate for you to wait, and then it not come to Verizon. The simple answer is, if you want to root and ROM, wait, because nothing beats a Nexus on Verizon in that regard. But my wife has the RAZR M, and I actually really like the New Blur, and with the battery life of the MAXX, it may be the best all around phone in existance. So if you just want a great smartphone for everyday use, I think the RAZR HD is the way to go.
 
Considering the announcement is only a week away, I would say wait regardless just for more info. Then make your choice. :)
 
Citizen Coyote said:
Considering the announcement is only a week away, I would say wait regardless just for more info. Then make your choice. :)
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Not a bad idea, although it took a massive twitter attack to get Verizon to announce they were going to carry the GNex, they didn't announce it at the unveiling.
 
yeah, I think you guys are definitely right. I've had my Droid X for about 2 and half years. I think I rooted it and loaded my first Rom 1 month after I bought it. I would like to have the extra processing power of that Quad core chip and with only a week to wait. I guess I'll just hold on a bit longer and then make my decision but if a LG optimus G nexus comes to Verizon soon I think that may be my choice since it's spec make it look like it will be a beast of a phone.
 
Yep, that is the impression I got. Verizon's fault IMO, I wish I had a comparable network in my area.
 
AntimonyER said:
Yep, that is the impression I got. Verizon's fault IMO, I wish I had a comparable network in my area.
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Well from what Andy Rubin had to say, it seems like they just won't be dealing with lte devices in the immediate future citing battery life and the cost of adding separate radios as the reason why. It's a little perplexing since the gs3 and razr hd both get great battery life on lte, but either way it looks like us Verizon and Sprint users will have to hope for the next nexus.
 
AntimonyER said:
Yep, that is the impression I got. Verizon's fault IMO, I wish I had a comparable network in my area.
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I think it's Google's fault as well. Apple was able to make a deal with Verizon to handle their own updates and no bloat. Why couldn't Google work up the same deal?
 
I don't think there is ANY way that Google was given the same standing that Apple got with Verizon. Verizon was BEGGING Apple for the iPhone, and would have sold their grandmother into slavery to get it. The Nexus, no where NEAR the same standing. Verizon lets Apple have their own way, because it was the only way Apple would come to Verizon. Not true with Google, Verizon will get dozens of Android phones whether Google lets them have a Nexus or not.
 
You're right.

I don't think Verizon will lose many customers over people dumping them for a nexus either.
I just feel that Google could've done more.
I'm sure a majority of Verizon GNex owners that knew what they were doing were on jelly bean three months before Verizon pushed the update.
Google could sell a Verizon Nexus 4 and just advertise, don't wait for your carrier to push an update. As soon as it's released AOSP someone will make a flashable .zip with detailed instructions on how to install it.

Edit: and with Verizon requesting the locked bootloader on the GS3, I wonder if they requested the same thing on the Nexus 4, and Google was just like eat a dick.
 
I don't think they even gave Verizon the time of day this time around or else we would be seeing rumors about a Sprint version since it's the same CDMA/LTE hybrid idea. I totally agree with Anti on the idea that Verizon will not get another Nexus until VoLTE starts out and Verizon no longer has a say about allowing that device onto their due to the block c spectrum provisions.
 
So Verizon can control their CDMA whichever way they want, but the FCC says they have to allow unlocked devices in their LTE, correct?
I don't see why the FCC can't tell them to quit ******* around with the CDMA.
 
jova33 said:
So Verizon can control their CDMA whichever way they want, but the FCC says they have to allow unlocked devices in their LTE, correct?
I don't see why the FCC can't tell them to quit ******* around with the CDMA.
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As sucky as it is, it's because CDMA is proprietary. LTE is technically GSM technology and the block c regulations force Verizon to treat it as such. Since current phones still have to use the CDMA for voice and texting, that gives Verizon 100% control over any device on their network. Once device no longer have the CDMA crutch, and are exclusively LTE, you'll be able to bring your own device to them without them being able to deny you access as long as you pay for your service.
 
jova33 said:
I don't see why the FCC can't tell them to quit ******* around with the CDMA.
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Because we live in a democratic nation with laws. The government doesn't have the right to arbitrarily interfere in corporate policies like that (the LTE restrictions are possible because they were conditions Verizon accepted as part of a contract). Don't like Verizon's policies, you are free to take your business elsewhere.
 
The FCC imposes strict restrictions on commercial radio. You know the stuff you listen to in your car during your drive to work... if not mp3 or satellite radio.
And America isn't a true democracy.
 
jova33 said:
The FCC imposes strict restrictions on commercial radio. You know the stuff you listen to in your car during your drive to work... if not mp3 or satellite radio.
And America isn't a true democracy.
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The FCC doesn't regulate all commercial broadcasting.

They only regulate free broadcast stations like NBC, ABC, FOX, and local radio stations that can be picked up by anyone that owns a tuner.

Most of their regulations do not apply to cable, satellite TV and satellite radio (if anything, they are only regulating the frequencies they use since its a broadcast medium) and definitely not internet radio (that's just silly). Any censorship they do bring is self-imposed.

In a similar sense, the FCC regulates what frequencies CDMA uses, but they don't have control over how its used because its not a public broadcasting medium.

Although you are right, we are not a democracy. We are actually a republic.
 
I guess a big deal for me would be how rootable is the LG Optimus G Nexus going to be out of the box? While going with the Nexus name is suppose to mean more of a stock Google experience and all the updates first I'm not so sure it will have any advantage over the new Motorola/Google phones.
 
dautley said:
I guess a big deal for me would be how rootable is the LG Optimus G Nexus going to be out of the box? While going with the Nexus name is suppose to mean more of a stock Google experience and all the updates first I'm not so sure it will have any advantage over the new Motorola/Google phones.
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Not quite sure what you're asking. The LG Nexus 4 will be ridiculously easy to root because it's an unlocked pure Android phone. No carrier intervention allowed. That said, the only announced versions of the Nexus 4 will not run on Verizon's network, so that point is sort of moot if you're on Verizon. As for the LG Optimus G, only Sprint and AT&T have announced they'll carry it. No idea if Verizon will, but you can bet it will be locked down as tight as they can make it if they do.

As far as Motorola phones... well, see my sig. There's no way a Moto phone will ever be as open as a Nexus or receive updates as quickly, unless it is a Nexus.
 
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