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Help removable system apps ??

singleastronaut

singleastronaut

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A newbie asking for help. Dont know where to put this question, so I just created this thread.


If anyone of you here know please tell me which System Apps are safe to delete.
I have a rooted Alcatel OneTouch Flash Plus and I wanna delete those big / unused Apps on it.
Fyi All Google Apps (Google+, Chrome, Newsstand, Play Game, Play Book etc) are System Apps on this phone. Is that safe to delete them??? And also Native Apps like Music player, Vid player, Email service, and browser.
Thanks in advance guys. :)
 
Hello!
Download and if possible buy the prokey for it, Titanium Backup.
It will allow you to freeze apps, see if your device performs correctly, then you can backup and delete them.
Question, what is your reasoning behind deleting system apps?
Also, you need not create more threads about this....I've removed 3 other duplicates ;) ;) :)
 
Firstly, welcome to our AndroidForums!

Secondly: Rooting Best Practices

I don't see that we have a forum for your specific device, although there are several Alcatel One Touch forum you could ask-around in.

I would also highly encourage you to first make/take a Nandroid backup from your supported custom recovery and safely make an off-site backup/copy of it before modifying (i.e., deleting/renaming/disabling) any system apps.

Cheers and best of luck!
 
Thanks mikey.
I have installed Titanium and yeah I freeze some Apps but haven't tried to delete them.
So you said, I've gotta back up before delete them to see if my phone is still oke? But Is the effect will coming right away? I'm afraid of getting my phone brick! Or bootloop.

About those double threads, sorry this sites kept telling me there's problem about connection so I kept tapping on that "create thread" button.
 
The unwanted Google stuff, like Books, Newstand, Music, you can just disable them and never see them again, totally safe, no root required. I'd very careful about deleting things like Browser, because you might find that no user installed browsers will work after that. Because they may rely on a services provided by the system browser component, same with other things like music, calendar, email, etc. Like the Google stuff, you can just disable and hide them quite safely and again no root required. You're not going to gain any user storage space or increase performance by deleting system apps anyway, if that was your idea.
 
mikedt said:
The unwanted Google stuff, like Books, Newstand, Music, you can just disable them and never see them again, totally safe, no root required. I'd very careful about deleting things like Browser, because you might find that no user installed browsers will work after that. Because they may rely on a services provided by the system browser component, same with other things like music, calendar, email, etc. Like the Google stuff, you can just disable and hide them quite safely and again no root required. You're not going to gain any user storage space or increase performance by deleting system apps anyway, if that was your idea.
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Well for now, I have only disabled them. And thinking of deleting those Apps (Unused Google apps). For the native apps like music and video player or browser can't I replace them with other apps from playstore???
 
singleastronaut said:
Thanks mikey.
I have installed Titanium and yeah I freeze some Apps but haven't tried to delete them.
So you said, I've gotta back up before delete them to see if my phone is still oke? But Is the effect will coming right away? I'm afraid of getting my phone brick! Or bootloop.

About those double threads, sorry this sites kept telling me there's problem about connection so I kept tapping on that "create thread" button.
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Yeah, no worries about the duplicates.. Glitches happen.. Didn't mean to sound snarky
 
singleastronaut said:
Well for now, I have only disabled them. And thinking of deleting those Apps (Unused Google apps). For the native apps like music and video player or browser can't I replace them with other apps from playstore???
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Maybe not, because those can provide components and frameworks for other user installed apps to hook onto. The browser provides the HTML rendering component that many other user installed browsers use AFAIK. A few days ago someone apparently deleted system calendar, and no user installed calendar apps would work, they crashed instantly. Can't remember what they actually had, but it meant they had to restore the original manufacturer's firmware for it. And if it's a little known Chinese device, good luck with this, you will have serious problems. That's why we strongly recommend you use Titanium to freeze and backup anything that can't easily be replaced.

You can even have a situation where you've deleted a component, everything is apparently working OK, but when you restart it, it's crashing and bootlooped. And the fix is to restore the manufacturer's firmware...if you can.
 
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mikedt said:
Maybe not, because those can provide components and frameworks for other user installed apps to hook onto. The browser provides the HTML rendering component that many other user installed browsers use AFAIK. A few days ago someone apparently deleted system calendar, and no user installed calendar apps would work, they crashed instantly. Can't remember what they actually had, but it meant they had to restore the original manufacturer's firmware for it. And if it's a little known Chinese device, good luck with this, you will have serious problems. That's why we strongly recommend you use Titanium to freeze and backup anything that can't easily be replaced.
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Thanks man, just deleted one of those Google Apps and yeah my phone keeps telling " unfortunately Chrome has stopped" . :(
 
Mr. Lucky said:
There's no real advantage in deleting versus freezing them. System apps reside in their own partition, and removing them won't create more room for downloaded apps.
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But uninstalling updates (if any) will free some space.

Otherwise yeah, in general freeze then forget about them is simpler and safer. Though having said that I do remove Google Play Books, Music, G+, Google Search, Chrome etc from my devices, but I always have nandroid backups or a spare copy of the ROM before I start messing. Don't try removing or freezing Google Play Services or Google Services Framework though, or anything Google related will break, including apps that are not Google but are using some of their services.
 
Yup at least if you just disable an app, and it causes a problem, all you have to do is boot into safe mode and enable it.
As the others have said, theres no viable reason to uninstall an app. Just clear it's data then disable it.
Unless you're gonna start installing user apps as system apps which is a whole new kettle of fish
 
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