GreatBigDog
Android Enthusiast
I made a backup of all the pages in this thread to date. I know mjschmidt is going to as well, maybe a couple of more can as well.
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Rogers Dream 1.6 Update
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GreatBigDog
Android Enthusiast
Sent these to @RogersMary over the last couple of days.
Yesterday
Today
I did get this back in answer to my tweet yesterday.
Yesterday
Today
I did get this back in answer to my tweet yesterday.
mjschmidt
Android Expert
Sounds like she is getting tired of listening to you bark. ;-)
GreatBigDog
Android Enthusiast
I can start to see it, give it another week and this outcry will have taken on a life of its' own and at that point there will be no stopping it. If we continue pushing hard enough eventually the main stream media will get hold of our quest and there will be the big embarrassment for Rogers if they haven't done anything by then.
Right now there are a few of us that are pushing this issue really hard, quite a few that are making contributions as they can, some people chiming in now and then. But.... judging by the number of hits this thread gets there are many more who are watching on the sidelines to see what happens. You are the ones that we need to step up to the plate, If you are on Facebook, MySpace, Twitter, or any other social media sites, we need you to start linking back to this thread, the blog and the petition. Go ahead and send tweets to @RogersMary and @RogersHelps even though you know that you will get the canned answer.
You see the links for Digg, del.icio.us, stumbleUpon and Google at the bottom of the page. Please use them if you are with any of those sites, if not then join and then use them ;-)
Right now there are a few of us that are pushing this issue really hard, quite a few that are making contributions as they can, some people chiming in now and then. But.... judging by the number of hits this thread gets there are many more who are watching on the sidelines to see what happens. You are the ones that we need to step up to the plate, If you are on Facebook, MySpace, Twitter, or any other social media sites, we need you to start linking back to this thread, the blog and the petition. Go ahead and send tweets to @RogersMary and @RogersHelps even though you know that you will get the canned answer.
You see the links for Digg, del.icio.us, stumbleUpon and Google at the bottom of the page. Please use them if you are with any of those sites, if not then join and then use them ;-)
GreatBigDog
Android Enthusiast
I wonder if any of the execs at Telus or Bell are following this thread. If they are they'll be really happy it's not them. They won't say anything though because they could be next, if their customers get as upset as we are.
I want to thank Big Dog and Schmidt for revving up the engine on this. I am an early poster to this thread and have been watching closely for any updates. I too have submitted a complaint to the Rogers OotP as well as placing numerous calls to Rogers CS, Tech, Relations. My 'Dream' is that we will one day get this update pushed through to all 1.5ers....Eve, Magic and Dream. We need it now! No update, no paid apps....what a joke. Good luck signing me to another agreement Rogers if we don't see some action soon.
Any luck with the media?....oh wait I think Rogers owns that. Somebody call CTV....wait they're busy with Olympics.....
Waiting patiently....at least for now. Rogers please come through for your customers!
Any luck with the media?....oh wait I think Rogers owns that. Somebody call CTV....wait they're busy with Olympics.....
Waiting patiently....at least for now. Rogers please come through for your customers!
mjschmidt
Android Expert
Android OS percentges broken down
Posted on Thursday, Dec 17, 2009 by Phil Nickinson
http://www.androidcentral.com/android-os-percentges-broken-down
"We often lament the fact that the Android operating system is a wee bit fractured, with devices running on a number of versions. How bad is it, you ask?The Android Developers blog spells it out in the chart above (erm, their numbers, our chart): Most of you are running Android 1.6 (myTouch 3G and G1 on T-Mo)., followed by 1.5 and 2.0.1 (Droid owners, that's you!)
Those numbers are based off devices that accessed the Android market for 14 days ending on Dec. 14. We know that Sprint plans on upgrading the Hero and Samsung Moment next year. As for the rest? We'll see."
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Hey, Rogers, see that above!? You are leaving your customers in the minority of Android users worldwide!!!! Almost 3/4 of Android users are ABOVE 1.5!!!
Posted on Thursday, Dec 17, 2009 by Phil Nickinson
http://www.androidcentral.com/android-os-percentges-broken-down
"We often lament the fact that the Android operating system is a wee bit fractured, with devices running on a number of versions. How bad is it, you ask?The Android Developers blog spells it out in the chart above (erm, their numbers, our chart): Most of you are running Android 1.6 (myTouch 3G and G1 on T-Mo)., followed by 1.5 and 2.0.1 (Droid owners, that's you!)
Those numbers are based off devices that accessed the Android market for 14 days ending on Dec. 14. We know that Sprint plans on upgrading the Hero and Samsung Moment next year. As for the rest? We'll see."
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Hey, Rogers, see that above!? You are leaving your customers in the minority of Android users worldwide!!!! Almost 3/4 of Android users are ABOVE 1.5!!!
Sanitylost
Newbie
I've been following this thread and I decided to go to the HTC site and look what I found:
Can I upgrade my Rogers Magic device to Android 1.6?
HTC is not currently planning any Android 1.6 upgrades for Rogers Dream or Magic. Android 1.6 was only made available for
Can I upgrade my Rogers Magic device to Android 1.6?
HTC is not currently planning any Android 1.6 upgrades for Rogers Dream or Magic. Android 1.6 was only made available for
zortoflaven
Member
Oh wow. That is disappointing for sure. 
gnugu
Well-Known Member
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GreatBigDog
Android Enthusiast
Answered NO and left a very poor result on the survey.
Sanitylost
Newbie
Answered truthfully....but let it be known I was "Dissatisfied" overall.
Sounds like Rogers has leaned on HTC and they've agreed to take the hit for no updates or...they'll go straight to 2.0.....Don't hold your breath.
Now what are the options if this is the end of the battle?
2.0 is not possible atm. If T-mobile are not going to update their G1 to 2.0 or 2.0.1, very unlikely you see anymore update. Unless Rogers willing to pay HTC to do it.
Got my Rogers bill today and was charged 97$ over usual for no reason so I called tech support and spoke with the manager. He sorted things out no problem. I started talking about android: mentionned that 1.6 was out (the usual bla bla bla, I always say the same thing when I call rogers) and without me mentionning anything else, he told me that they had been given a formation on new android versions. He said that Rogers will release the new version of android in early 2010 with the launch of new android phones and, when I asked why we did not have 2.0 (released last month) or 1.6 (released in septembre) he said that Rogers is waiting to update with the latest version. He said that my LG Eve did not have the latest version of android because it was released this year (2009) and they're waiting in 2010.
They know that Bell has 1.6 so they will update with possibly 2.01 or AT LEAST 2.0. They wanna be ahead of everyone else in 2010
For the scepticles, I asked for confirmation of this information, and he confirmed.
They know that Bell has 1.6 so they will update with possibly 2.01 or AT LEAST 2.0. They wanna be ahead of everyone else in 2010
For the scepticles, I asked for confirmation of this information, and he confirmed.
I guess the only way that Rogers is going to make their android customers happy and earn their trust back is to deliver 2.x
Brendanmurphy
Android Enthusiast
Rogers does not have google experience phones. Rogers has a custom rom on theres witch includes Exchange support. So no it is not a google experience phone
mjschmidt
Android Expert
I've been to that HTC page before looking to see what it said, and I don't recall seeing that. I can't prove it, and I hate to stray into conspiracy land, but I can help but wonder if that info re 1.6 was added recently at the behest of Rogers.
Mr. Szeto also called me to say that he hadn't heard from the other depts yet and promised to call me tomorrow.
I think it's time we did a little digging with HTC because we're getting conflicting info again. HTC has previously told us that the 1.6 update existed and that Rogers just had to request it to make their modifications.
Edit: Further, if HTC is now claiming they have no plans for a Rogers 1.6 update, why did multiple members of rogers OotP tell us they were getting it for testing an evaluation? I want to know who does the actual modifications to the ROM. Does Rogers do it, or does HTC do it on Rogers behalf? Maybe Rogers looked at the update from HTC (the testing and evaluation) and then told HTC no _after the fact_?
Mr. Szeto also called me to say that he hadn't heard from the other depts yet and promised to call me tomorrow.
I think it's time we did a little digging with HTC because we're getting conflicting info again. HTC has previously told us that the 1.6 update existed and that Rogers just had to request it to make their modifications.
Edit: Further, if HTC is now claiming they have no plans for a Rogers 1.6 update, why did multiple members of rogers OotP tell us they were getting it for testing an evaluation? I want to know who does the actual modifications to the ROM. Does Rogers do it, or does HTC do it on Rogers behalf? Maybe Rogers looked at the update from HTC (the testing and evaluation) and then told HTC no _after the fact_?
GreatBigDog
Android Enthusiast
You know that the only way that 2.x would fit on the dream would be with the apps installed on SD. Not even the guys over at XDA have gotten 2.0 to be fully functional on the G1 yet. I think that it's only a pipe dream to think that Rogers is working on 2.0 for the dream. If Rogers is skipping 1.6 and going to 2.0, at best the magic "might" see it an certanly the Dream won't.
But then again I could ge wrong and Rogers is out to one up everybody to have the first Dreams and Magics running 2.0 ;-)
Gbd
mjschmidt
Android Expert
Looking at the HTC site again, I just realized, they've redone the whole site! It used to be when you went to htc.com you could see _all_ the worldwide products. Now when you go to htc.com, it automatically redirects you to HTC - Mobile Phones, Smartphones, Cell Phones, PDAs! No matter what you do, it redirects to this page! You can now only see the Canadian phones, and for the magic there is only the Rogers Magic. There's even a link to "Buy from Rogers"!
Ladies and Gentleman, I do believe we've been scammed by Rogers. The HTC site is now _different_ then it was even a few days ago, and I doubt it got to be the way it is now without input from Rogers.
You can bet I'll be bringing this up with Mr. Szeto when he calls tomorrow. If we are right, and _Rogers_ has decided not to buy the 1.6 update from HTC, and if they won't be releasing 2.0 for Dream and Magic, then they will have screwed us over.
I just emailed HTC support to ask why they won't release 1.6 for our phones when we know it exists and we know the phones support it.
You can contact them here: http://www.htc.com/ca/about/contact-by-email
I wrote the following:
"Why is HTC not releasing the Android 1.6 update for the Rogers HTC Dream & Magic. We know the update exists, and we know that the phones will support it, so why can't we have the update?"
Ladies and Gentleman, I do believe we've been scammed by Rogers. The HTC site is now _different_ then it was even a few days ago, and I doubt it got to be the way it is now without input from Rogers.
You can bet I'll be bringing this up with Mr. Szeto when he calls tomorrow. If we are right, and _Rogers_ has decided not to buy the 1.6 update from HTC, and if they won't be releasing 2.0 for Dream and Magic, then they will have screwed us over.
I just emailed HTC support to ask why they won't release 1.6 for our phones when we know it exists and we know the phones support it.
You can contact them here: http://www.htc.com/ca/about/contact-by-email
I wrote the following:
"Why is HTC not releasing the Android 1.6 update for the Rogers HTC Dream & Magic. We know the update exists, and we know that the phones will support it, so why can't we have the update?"
It is possible to have 2.x fit in dream. That is not a problem. Initially, 1.6 was the same thing but after the final compile, it was less than it was expected. 2.0 still have an issue to solve which is the camera driver. Unfortunately the driver for the camera is a closed source. But if Rogers willing to pay for it, i don't see that is a problem.
mjschmidt
Android Expert
We shouldn't be giving up on 1.6 so easily. We _know_ the update exists, and we _know_ it works on these phones. I want to know if Rogers is pulling some strings at HTC to avoid having to pay for the update.