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Root Rooting to remove apps

I believe the reason is that the system apps are on a different partition, so the space is not available to use for other apps unless you re-partition the internal memory. However, someone who knows more than me can confirm. :)

On the other hand, anecdotally my phone "seems" to run smoother now. I have no data to actually show that though.

Using OSMonitor, it appeared that on boot my phone would load many system apps into memory (even if they aren't actively doing anything) like Stocks, News, etc. Now that I deleted them, other apps (that I use more often) get preloaded. Not sure if this is a real phenomenon or just a feeling.
 
im not able to complete the removal of apps.....it gives me the android guy and a yellow exclamation when it reboots after it 'uninstalls'.....when I manually reboot it when it just sits there the app is still there having failed the uninstall..
 
amlothi said:
I believe the reason is that the system apps are on a different partition, so the space is not available to use for other apps unless you re-partition the internal memory. However, someone who knows more than me can confirm. :)

On the other hand, anecdotally my phone "seems" to run smoother now. I have no data to actually show that though.

Using OSMonitor, it appeared that on boot my phone would load many system apps into memory (even if they aren't actively doing anything) like Stocks, News, etc. Now that I deleted them, other apps (that I use more often) get preloaded. Not sure if this is a real phenomenon or just a feeling.
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SUroot said:
That's right, you'd have to repartition
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Thanks for this guys!

BTW, how do I repartition? and would repartitioning mean wiping out the content of the ROM? Would it be possible to install APKs to the system partition?
 
You can always install .apks to system if you have a flashable zip and you put the apks in there.

Repartitioning is not for everyone. Its something I would recommend after a certain level of familiarity with being rooted and modded.
 
SUroot said:
You can always install .apks to system if you have a flashable zip and you put the apks in there.

Repartitioning is not for everyone. Its something I would recommend after a certain level of familiarity with being rooted and modded.
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How do I do that flashable zip thing? also, would this affect me adversely in any way once I de-root? How would updated to the app be handled?
 
You can download any flashable apps zip file and replace the apks with your own.

When you "de-root" the entire phone is wiped clean so it wont affect anything

EDIT> Forgot to add, if you purchase titanium backup pro, if there are updates on the market to /system/apps, there is an option to "Integrate" the updates into the ROM (system)
 
I believe for some it works and others not. Generally though, you would need S-off.

The easiest way to do it without flashing a custom rom (if you're rooted) is via adb.
 
No you can do adb without s-off.

S-off stops you changing system whilst android is running. If youre rooted you can change system using adb if you are in recovery.
 
I think it's better to rename stock apps, just use root explorer and rename the .apk to .bak and it will not longer show or be executed as an app. Why would you want to do this? If in the future if you need to restore your phone to factory defaults, for a warranty claim you haven't lost anything its still there. And is very easy to put back into place.

SSD (Solid State Drives) or flash memory in our phones do not actually delete anything when you hit "delete". It only Flags the file as deleted. That space can then be over written. Until then the file is still there, its only marked as "deleted". Ever wondered why some apps take forever to install and only a couple of seconds to delete? Now you know why.

Just my .02 on deleting stuff.
 
TDS40 said:
I think it's better to rename stock apps, just use root explorer and rename the .apk to .bak and it will not longer show or be executed as an app. Why would you want to do this? If in the future if you need to restore your phone to factory defaults, for a warranty claim you haven't lost anything its still there.
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Because the only way to return to stock (for warranty purposes) is to use an RUU which overwrites everything anyway.

You'd have to remove the custom Hboot (s-off), custom recovery and rooted rom for it to be valid for warranty.

And if you want to reuse the space in system elsewhere (by changing the partition layout) the file has to be "gone" for the space to be re-used.

also, btw, what you say about solid state drives and flash memory is not specific to the type of storage, rather the file system. But yes, you are correct. This is true of most (if not all) file systems.
 
TDS40 said:
I think it's better to rename stock apps, just use root explorer and rename the .apk to .bak and it will not longer show or be executed as an app. Why would you want to do this? If in the future if you need to restore your phone to factory defaults, for a warranty claim you haven't lost anything its still there. And is very easy to put back into place.

SSD (Solid State Drives) or flash memory in our phones do not actually delete anything when you hit "delete". It only Flags the file as deleted. That space can then be over written. Until then the file is still there, its only marked as "deleted". Ever wondered why some apps take forever to install and only a couple of seconds to delete? Now you know why.

Just my .02 on deleting stuff.
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Thanks.
tried this and changed unwanted to .bak s. After reboot they are changed back to .apk :confused:
 
SUroot said:
Although you need root access to remove system apps, you can actually now do this without rooting. Rooting will not allow OTA updates.

What I will suggest is simpler.

1) Download 19/Nov r14: VISIONary + one click root - Android @ MoDaCo

2) In that app apply temp root (Lost at reboot)

3) Download titanium backup

4) In titanium, go to the Backup / restore tab. Find tehapps individually and press them to uninstall.

5) Reboot.

Simple. No warranty voided. No Recovery changed. OTA not affected.
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That didn't seem to work for me. I did the temp root, but although the program seemed to be doing something for a minute or two, when it came back and I don't think I was rooted. Titanium only had about 5 entries listed (e.g. wifi connections), not any programs. Also, when I open the "Superuser" app, it doesn't show any apps in the list.

Is that rooting method only compatible with certain phones? Here's my software numbers, if it matters:

Android 2.2
Software 2.09.405.8
Kernel 2.6.32.15-gfc0527
 
when you open titanium it should prompt for SU access. To be honest, it only works for some people unfortunately.
 
SUroot said:
Although you need root access to remove system apps, you can actually now do this without rooting. Rooting will not allow OTA updates.

What I will suggest is simpler.

1) Download 19/Nov r14: VISIONary + one click root - Android @ MoDaCo

2) In that app apply temp root (Lost at reboot)

3) Download titanium backup

4) In titanium, go to the Backup / restore tab. Find tehapps individually and press them to uninstall.

5) Reboot.

Simple. No warranty voided. No Recovery changed. OTA not affected.
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Most important to me is does this process wipe the phone?
 
SUroot said:
Although you need root access to remove system apps, you can actually now do this without rooting. Rooting will not allow OTA updates.

What I will suggest is simpler.

1) Download 19/Nov r14: VISIONary + one click root - Android @ MoDaCo

2) In that app apply temp root (Lost at reboot)

3) Download titanium backup

4) In titanium, go to the Backup / restore tab. Find tehapps individually and press them to uninstall.

5) Reboot.

Simple. No warranty voided. No Recovery changed. OTA not affected.
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When I go to download the file at MoDoCo I get a security warning stating the file has been reported as unsafe.
 
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